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Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!

1. What is a record player?

2. What is a dial telephone?

3. Who were the Beatles?

4. What is an 8-track tape player?

5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

6. What is inflation?

7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

8. What was the draft?

9. How were things done before computers?

10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?




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Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!

I'm not -that- old, but try previous generations' questions:

1. What is a record player?

What is a Victrola?

2. What is a dial telephone?

How did you connect before dials?
On party lines?

3. Who were the Beatles?

Who were the Carter Family?

4. What is an 8-track tape player?

What is a wire recorder?

5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

When did we last invade and occupy Nicaragua?

6. What is inflation?

How much was the most expensive Titanic ticket, corrected for
inflation?
My father and I compared how long we had to work to buy a shirt or
loaf of bread, him in the 1920's and me in the 1970's. They were
almost equal.

7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

I've paid $0.18 / gal.

8. What was the draft?

What incident began the National Guard?

9. How were things done before computers?

What's a Comptometer?

10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

What's a fountain pen?
A Biro?

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Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!

1. What is a record player?

Tiger Woods.


2. What is a dial telephone?

One you can use as soap.


3. Who were the Beatles?

Cousins to the cockroaches.


4. What is an 8-track tape player?

This depends - There are 8 track cartridge players AND 8 track recorders
used for recording musicians.


5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

Depends on whose definitions of "major war" you use.
There have been at least 145 conflicts with death totals over 20,000
persons.


6. What is inflation?

What happens if you get breast implants.


7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

All you can eat Tacos at Golden Corral- $5.00


8. What was the draft?

What happens when someone doesn't close the door...


9. How were things done before computers?

Depends on what room you are in at the time!!!


10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Morse Code





How many did I get right....

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Just playing devil's advocate...



1- something that played records, its analogue and the sound is
transferred from
the record grooves via needle


Needles are dangerous and evidence of drug use. Report it to DEA!


2-dial phone, you mean a rotary phone? before the tone system was
developed it
used clicks to relay the numbers to the system by turning the dial to the
number


Numbers running is illegal. Call the cops!


3-one of the biggest musical groups, basically brought "rock and roll" to
the us



Rock and Roll is the devil's music. Call a Priest!



4-8 track, predecessor to the cassette tape which had 8 "Tracks" of
information
on them


Tracks are evidence of drug use. See #1


5- wwi wwii, Korea, nam was a conflict technically not a war, gulf "war"
also a
conflict, and if you want to try and count the cold war you can go a head
there
too


Killing yellow and brown people is morally wrong.
But rich people like it...


6- inflation, money loses value, come on now that is something a 10 year
old
should understand


Is it on YouTube yet?


7- cheapest gas for sure was 70 cents that i specifically remember but
that was
when i was about 10 so i know i saw gas cheaper than that when i was little


$10 a gallon gas would reduce wasteful driving by rich people.

8- the draft was when people were forced to serve in the military


Slavery - pure and simple. And see #5.


9- before computers, by hand/eye type writer for typing


What are you talking about? Computers have always been here!

10- the same way people still send letters, USPS



Letter? You mean like Texting?


-matt


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Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!

1. What is a record player?

2. What is a dial telephone?

3. Who were the Beatles?

4. What is an 8-track tape player?

5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

6. What is inflation?

7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

8. What was the draft?

9. How were things done before computers?

10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?



I don't know ANY of these.



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Hmm. Well, I guess, somehow you continue to exist. Without
all this essential information.

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I don't know ANY of these.


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Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!

1. What is a record player?

2. What is a dial telephone?

3. Who were the Beatles?

4. What is an 8-track tape player?

5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

6. What is inflation?

7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

8. What was the draft?

9. How were things done before computers?

10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?



I don't know ANY of these.


If you can remember, ask your SomesHeimers doctor about risperidone or
quetiapine, Tawm.

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I don't know ANY of these.



After your time? (darned new-fangled rubbish


Mark Rand
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Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!

1. What is a record player?

2. What is a dial telephone?

3. Who were the Beatles?

4. What is an 8-track tape player?

5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

6. What is inflation?

7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

8. What was the draft?

9. How were things done before computers?

10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?





My daughter is a therapist for handicapped children. She brought in her
Fisher-Price record player one time. Little boy help up the record and
stated "This is the biggest CD, I ever saw.". :)


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you mean the horribly outdated system that is used here, where there is no
central server or administration so there is no way to regulate the bs
right
wing propaganda that is spewed out here along with the random spam. the
system
that was replaced 20 years ago by BBS, which has since been replaced by
forums
that are actually useable and keep things in an order so that you can
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keep up with a thread?

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no central server or administration so there is no way to regulate the bs
right wing propaganda that is spewed out here along with the random spam.
the
system that was replaced 20 years ago by BBS, which has since been
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actually keep up with a thread?

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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?


The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.

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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?


The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.


94 cents a gallon around 1995
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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?


The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.


94 cents a gallon around 1995


$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card. g

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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?


The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.


94 cents a gallon around 1995


$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card.g


$0.259 October 1971. San Jose, CA. Discount gas station.
That was a pretty typical price for rotgut regular.
Worked great!

http://www.gasbuddy.com/

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$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card. g


$0.189 1969, Tucson, AZ during a gas war. I also had a MG Midget, a '62
Roadster, with the same tank capacity and I filled it up for under a buck!
The little 948cc engine in that peanut chassis gave me over 30mpg. I probably
could have gotten much better if I didn't drive it like it had a 1 bit digital
(on & off) gas pedal.
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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?


The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.

Northe


About $0.229 in Las Vegas in the early sixties.

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$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card. g


$0.189 1969, Tucson, AZ during a gas war. I also had a MG Midget, a '62
Roadster, with the same tank capacity and I filled it up for under a buck!
The little 948cc engine in that peanut chassis gave me over 30mpg. I
probably
could have gotten much better if I didn't drive it like it had a 1 bit
digital
(on & off) gas pedal.
Art


I had a 1275cc (1967) and got better mileage than that. The main reason was
that I swapped out the standard 4.22 rear end for the optional 3.727. Then I
had another one for hillclimbs -- maybe 5.11? I forget.

Anyway, I could do 75 on the highway without overrevving, with the 3.727,
and I got about 34 mpg at 65.

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I had a 1275cc (1967) and got better mileage than that. The main reason was
that I swapped out the standard 4.22 rear end for the optional 3.727. Then I
had another one for hillclimbs -- maybe 5.11? I forget.

Anyway, I could do 75 on the highway without overrevving, with the 3.727,
and I got about 34 mpg at 65.


I don't know what rear end was in mine. Did you have the deluxe model with
a gas gauge, roll up windows, and an outside door handle? Mine was pretty
much the base ragtop with no extras. I still have the old title and it shows a
list price of $1395. I bought it used in Jun '67 for $250.
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I had a 1275cc (1967) and got better mileage than that. The main reason
was
that I swapped out the standard 4.22 rear end for the optional 3.727.
Then I
had another one for hillclimbs -- maybe 5.11? I forget.

Anyway, I could do 75 on the highway without overrevving, with the 3.727,
and I got about 34 mpg at 65.


I don't know what rear end was in mine. Did you have the deluxe model
with
a gas gauge, roll up windows, and an outside door handle? Mine was pretty
much the base ragtop with no extras. I still have the old title and it
shows a
list price of $1395. I bought it used in Jun '67 for $250.
Art


Yeah, I had the Mk III, same as the Mk IV AH Sprite, and which was the last
one with an MG engine (they switched to the 1300cc Triumph Spitfire engine
after that). It had roll-up windows, a real folding top, and a door handle.
I also had the knock-off wheels. The price I paid new, which was a lot lower
than list, was $2365 in '67.

I raced it in low-key SCCA club racing and hillclimbed it at Traverse City,
MI, and Giant's Despair, PA. I also raced it on the ice at Rose Lake, MI.
And I drove it back and forth between NJ and MI for a few years when I was
in college.

I think I had more fun with it than any other car I've owned. And it was
very reliable. One morning when it was 15 below, near Boyne Highlands, MI,
it was the only car in the lot that would start (I had a Sears DieHard
battery in it that was wider, and almost as long, as the engine. g) It was
funny to jump-start Cadillacs and pickup trucks all morning. d8-)

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I have paid 1 cent - or $.01 per gallon in a gas war back
in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
notified Dad to buy a tank asap.

Martin

Ignoramus7752 wrote:
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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.


94 cents a gallon around 1995

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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?


The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.

94 cents a gallon around 1995


$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card.g


$0.259 October 1971. San Jose, CA. Discount gas station.
That was a pretty typical price for rotgut regular.
Worked great!


My first home away from home was Phoenix in '71. I filled up my '68
Ford Ranch Wagon there at $0.213 per gallon. The wagon worked well
with my suitcoat for the, get this, drive-thru liquor stores.

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I have paid 1 cent - or $.01 per gallon in a gas war back
in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
notified Dad to buy a tank asap.

Martin

There was a war like that in the late '80s northwest of Toronto. The
lowest I ever paid was $0.299 at the Anglo station on Hwy.#28 just
north of Peterbrough in 1958. Those were the days when we could cash
in the pop bottles in the back seat and get enough gas to cruise on
Saturday night.
Gerry :-)}
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I could buy a gallon of gas *today* for only 56c if I could
just find one of those 1971 dollars.

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I could buy a gallon of gas *today* for only 56c if I could
just find one of those 1971 dollars.

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Fortunatley gas is not included when calculating inflation so
your 1971 dollar is still worth a dollar according to the government.

Best Regards
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:06:13 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"
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I have paid 1 cent - or $.01 per gallon in a gas war back
in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
notified Dad to buy a tank asap.



It got so bad in Kokomo with the gas wars, that one station owner saw that his competitor
was selling way below his cost. The gent borrowed a tanker truck and drove over for a
fill up.

Needless to say, the competitor didn't want to sell but once the police showed up, he did.


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On 1/29/2010 11:50 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
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7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?


The cheapest that I ever paid was $0.29 9/10. I'm not sure whether there
was a gas war going on at the time or not.

94 cents a gallon around 1995

$0.259 Dec., 1968, Grand Ledge, MI. Yes, there was a gas war. And my tank
(MG Midget) held 7.2 gallons US. I paid by credit card.g


$0.259 October 1971. San Jose, CA. Discount gas station.
That was a pretty typical price for rotgut regular.
Worked great!


My first home away from home was Phoenix in '71. I filled up my '68
Ford Ranch Wagon there at $0.213 per gallon. The wagon worked well
with my suitcoat for the, get this, drive-thru liquor stores.



18.9 cents per gallon for premium in 1973 in Daleville Alabama. It
was 12.9 cents per gallon on base without the federal & state taxes.


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Gerald Miller wrote:

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I have paid 1 cent - or $.01 per gallon in a gas war back
in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
notified Dad to buy a tank asap.


It got so bad in Kokomo with the gas wars, that one station owner saw that his competitor
was selling way below his cost. The gent borrowed a tanker truck and drove over for a
fill up.

Needless to say, the competitor didn't want to sell but once the police showed up, he did.



Stations are not allowed to sell below cost in Florida.


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And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
the authority.

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Needless to say, the competitor didn't want to sell but
once the police showed up, he did.



Stations are not allowed to sell below cost in Florida.


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And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
the authority.


They aren't setting prices, they're saying you can't let your large
operation run at a loss until the competing small operations go out of
business.

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I could buy a gallon of gas *today* for only 56c if I could
just find one of those 1971 dollars.

--Winston


Fortunatley gas is not included when calculating inflation so
your 1971 dollar is still worth a dollar according to the government.

Best Regards
Tom.


Neither of those statements is correct, Tom. Actually, gas *is* included in
the basic measure of inflation (CPI-U). The figures Iggy posted last night
include gas -- which inflated by 53% last year.

Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%. All of the difference
between the 1.7% and 2.7% was gasoline prices, which is a function of
politics and the economies of foreign governments as much as ours. That's
why some measures don't include it. It's misleading for some kinds of policy
analysis.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

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the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
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Which country's constitution are you reading, Chris? g

What Michael is talking about is a function of Florida's constitution, not
the US Constitution. But the federal government can set intrastate prices,
and, in some cases, in-state prices. See the commerce clause (Article 1,
Section 8, clause 3).



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once the police showed up, he did.



Stations are not allowed to sell below cost in Florida.


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And, what business is it, of government, to set prices for
the market? Yes, they do it all the time. But, I don't
belive I've seen it in the Constitution where they are given
the authority.


That interstate commerce clause causes a lot of mischief.

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Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%.


Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used to be 2.99 for 5#
before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at 3.99 for 5#.

Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent in the last year.

Then there is the portion shaving Marie Calendar is doing along with a price increase.

Fuel had a huge increase a while back, wages never covered it. Somehow I didn't see it in
our core inflation numbers, I did feel it in my wallet.

Then there is wage freezes due to our current economic difficulties. Makes any increase
in inflation a bit more significant.


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Wes wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%.


Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used to be 2.99 for 5#
before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at 3.99 for 5#.

Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent in the last year.

Then there is the portion shaving Marie Calendar is doing along with a price increase.

Fuel had a huge increase a while back, wages never covered it. Somehow I didn't see it in
our core inflation numbers, I did feel it in my wallet.

Then there is wage freezes due to our current economic difficulties. Makes any increase
in inflation a bit more significant.



A lot of food around here went up %50 over the last two years. Most
of that, in the past year.


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"azotic" wrote in message
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"Winston" wrote in message
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I could buy a gallon of gas *today* for only 56c if I could
just find one of those 1971 dollars.

--Winston


Fortunatley gas is not included when calculating inflation so
your 1971 dollar is still worth a dollar according to the government.

Best Regards
Tom.


Neither of those statements is correct, Tom. Actually, gas *is* included
in the basic measure of inflation (CPI-U). The figures Iggy posted last
night include gas -- which inflated by 53% last year.

Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%. All of the
difference between the 1.7% and 2.7% was gasoline prices, which is a
function of politics and the economies of foreign governments as much as
ours. That's why some measures don't include it. It's misleading for some
kinds of policy analysis.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

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A little sarcasim Ed, personal consumer price index diverge from the
national average.


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"azotic" wrote in message
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"Winston" wrote in message
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I could buy a gallon of gas *today* for only 56c if I could
just find one of those 1971 dollars.

--Winston

Fortunatley gas is not included when calculating inflation so
your 1971 dollar is still worth a dollar according to the government.

Best Regards
Tom.


Neither of those statements is correct, Tom. Actually, gas *is* included
in the basic measure of inflation (CPI-U). The figures Iggy posted last
night include gas -- which inflated by 53% last year.

Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food,
it was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%. All of the
difference between the 1.7% and 2.7% was gasoline prices, which is a
function of politics and the economies of foreign governments as much as
ours. That's why some measures don't include it. It's misleading for some
kinds of policy analysis.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

--
Ed Huntress


A little sarcasim Ed, personal consumer price index diverge from the
national average.


Best Regards
Tom.


Indeed they do.Which means that roughly half of them are lower.

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There were three refineries there in town - El Paso.
They were supplying Biggs Air Force Base and the Army.
Biggs really drank it in the cold war days. The three
companies got into a over stock issue and decided to undercut.

Martin

Gerald Miller wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:06:13 -0600, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote:

I have paid 1 cent - or $.01 per gallon in a gas war back
in 57. I was young and was buying gas in a gallon can for the
mix oil & gas 2-cycle mower! OTH that 4 cycles came out!
I handed the guy at the Chevron station a dollar bill and got
back a bunch of change. Mom, who sent me, was surprised and we
notified Dad to buy a tank asap.

Martin

There was a war like that in the late '80s northwest of Toronto. The
lowest I ever paid was $0.299 at the Anglo station on Hwy.#28 just
north of Peterbrough in 1958. Those were the days when we could cash
in the pop bottles in the back seat and get enough gas to cruise on
Saturday night.
Gerry :-)}
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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Without fuel or food, inflation last year was 1.7%. With fuel and food, it
was 2.7%. But food prices actually *declined* by 2.4%.


Food prices declined? Where are you shopping? Yukon Gold potatoes used
to be 2.99 for 5#
before the mid west floods one or two years ago, since then, stuck at 3.99
for 5#.

Marie Calendar, Boston Market, Hungry Man tv dinners up 10 to 20 percent
in the last year.


Before the floods? Are we talking here about THE Flood, with Noah and all
that stuff? g

Jeez, Wes. You're giving us anecdotes about potatoes and TV dinners in one
town in northern Michigan when we were talking about national averages.

Maybe what the country really needs is a Hungry Man Prices in Northern
Michigan Index, to guide our economy...


Then there is the portion shaving Marie Calendar is doing along with a
price increase.


So, call Marie and complain.


Fuel had a huge increase a while back, wages never covered it. Somehow I
didn't see it in
our core inflation numbers, I did feel it in my wallet.


If you didn't see it in the CPI-U, you weren't looking. Gasoline went up
53.5% last year, nationwide. It's in the reports.


Then there is wage freezes due to our current economic difficulties.
Makes any increase
in inflation a bit more significant.


Sure. But this is about as low as you want it to go. Any lower, and
consumption and bank deposits both dry up at the same time.

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