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The current Rethug party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible............Pailin's bridge to nowhere,
McCain's pork barrel spending and lies
- It is NOT ethically honorable.............Toe-tapping in the men room,
support for Teabaggers
- It has started wars based on lies..........Dumb-ya and Dickless lied and
4000 of our troops died.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only
billionaires...........Rethugs only support the top 1%
- It has suppressed constitutional guaranteed liberties.........Dumb-ya and
Dickless used warrant less wiretaps
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America..........Dumb-ya " Iraq
has weapons of mass destruction" 4000 of our troops died
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade treaties..........Signed
by Dumb-ya
- It has refused to enforce the national borders..............Rethugs want
slave labor for their rich benefactors

....It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

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The current Rethug party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible............Pailin's bridge to nowhere,
McCain's pork barrel spending and lies
- It is NOT ethically honorable.............Toe-tapping in the men room,
support for Teabaggers
- It has started wars based on lies..........Dumb-ya and Dickless lied and
4000 of our troops died.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only
billionaires...........Rethugs only support the top 1%
- It has suppressed constitutional guaranteed liberties.........Dumb-ya
and Dickless used warrant less wiretaps
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America..........Dumb-ya " Iraq
has weapons of mass destruction" 4000 of our troops died
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade
treaties..........Signed by Dumb-ya
- It has refused to enforce the national borders..............Rethugs want
slave labor for their rich benefactors

...It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

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Bruce


Can we now move on to the bonehead and dangerous moves made by Mr. Obama and
his ilk?

Steve


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The current Rethug party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible............Pailin's bridge to
nowhere, McCain's pork barrel spending and lies
- It is NOT ethically honorable.............Toe-tapping in the men
room, support for Teabaggers
- It has started wars based on lies..........Dumb-ya and Dickless
lied and 4000 of our troops died.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only
billionaires...........Rethugs only support the top 1%
- It has suppressed constitutional guaranteed
liberties.........Dumb-ya and Dickless used warrant less wiretaps
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America..........Dumb-ya "
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction" 4000 of our troops died
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade
treaties..........Signed by Dumb-ya
- It has refused to enforce the national
borders..............Rethugs want slave labor for their rich
benefactors

...It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

--
Bruce


Can we now move on to the bonehead and dangerous moves made by Mr.
Obama and his ilk?


The Dems need to take a page out of the Reagan playbook. Reagan spent his
entire Presidency berating Jimmy Carter's mess.
The first words out of the mouth of any Democratic party member on any
subject ought to be "The incompetent assholes in the Bush administration
nearly destroyed America" followed by whatever they want to say - even if
that's a weather report. It wouldn't be long before the voting public were
doing the same. Many are already but the volume is pretty low so Repubs are
getting a free pass as the result.

I expected better from a cut throat like Rahm Emanuel.


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Steve B wrote:
"bj" wrote in message
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The current Rethug party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible............Pailin's bridge to
nowhere, McCain's pork barrel spending and lies
- It is NOT ethically honorable.............Toe-tapping in the men
room, support for Teabaggers
- It has started wars based on lies..........Dumb-ya and Dickless
lied and 4000 of our troops died.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only
billionaires...........Rethugs only support the top 1%
- It has suppressed constitutional guaranteed
liberties.........Dumb-ya and Dickless used warrant less wiretaps
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America..........Dumb-ya "
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction" 4000 of our troops died
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade
treaties..........Signed by Dumb-ya
- It has refused to enforce the national
borders..............Rethugs want slave labor for their rich
benefactors

...It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

--
Bruce


Can we now move on to the bonehead and dangerous moves made by Mr.
Obama and his ilk?


The Dems need to take a page out of the Reagan playbook. Reagan spent his
entire Presidency berating Jimmy Carter's mess.
The first words out of the mouth of any Democratic party member on any
subject ought to be "The incompetent assholes in the Bush administration
nearly destroyed America" followed by whatever they want to say - even if
that's a weather report. It wouldn't be long before the voting public were
doing the same. Many are already but the volume is pretty low so Repubs
are
getting a free pass as the result.

I expected better from a cut throat like Rahm Emanuel.


--
John R. Carroll



Whatever works for the democrats. However continual bashing the previous
administration is getting old and the citizens aren't buying it anymore.
The democrats need a new mantra. Independents decide EVERY election and
gave the democrats a chance and they have blown it. Interesting that you
think more repetition of hate-speak will resonate with the citizens that you
think are that stupid that they will become left-wing drones. How do you
manage all your deep, deep thoughts? You should be writing them all down in
your manifesto!

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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
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Steve B wrote:
"bj" wrote in message
...
The current Rethug party has lost its ideological basis for
existence.
- It is NOT fiscally responsible............Pailin's bridge to
nowhere, McCain's pork barrel spending and lies
- It is NOT ethically honorable.............Toe-tapping in the men
room, support for Teabaggers
- It has started wars based on lies..........Dumb-ya and Dickless
lied and 4000 of our troops died.
- It does not support the well-being of americans - only
billionaires...........Rethugs only support the top 1%
- It has suppressed constitutional guaranteed
liberties.........Dumb-ya and Dickless used warrant less wiretaps
- It has foisted a liar as president upon America..........Dumb-ya
" Iraq has weapons of mass destruction" 4000 of our troops died
- It has violated US national sovereignty in trade
treaties..........Signed by Dumb-ya
- It has refused to enforce the national
borders..............Rethugs want slave labor for their rich
benefactors

...It no longer has valid reasons to exist.
Lorad474

--
Bruce

Can we now move on to the bonehead and dangerous moves made by Mr.
Obama and his ilk?


The Dems need to take a page out of the Reagan playbook. Reagan
spent his entire Presidency berating Jimmy Carter's mess.
The first words out of the mouth of any Democratic party member on
any subject ought to be "The incompetent assholes in the Bush
administration nearly destroyed America" followed by whatever they
want to say - even if that's a weather report. It wouldn't be long
before the voting public were doing the same. Many are already but
the volume is pretty low so Repubs are
getting a free pass as the result.

I expected better from a cut throat like Rahm Emanuel.




Whatever works for the democrats. However continual bashing the
previous administration is getting old and the citizens aren't buying
it anymore.


There hasn't really been much of it Tom.
Not relatively speaking. Imagine what things would be like if such an effort
were made with the same determination the Clinton Impeachment was afforded.
Bush and Cheney would be in jail by now.


The democrats need a new mantra. Independents decide
EVERY election and gave the democrats a chance and they have blown
it.


Not universally. The latest education reform effort looks first class.
I'd agree with you on several other issues, however. You'd think the Dems
would understand the value of a properly framed issue by now but they seem
not to.
Both sides have blown it. American's are paying for that. All Americans.
I can't believe it's taken this long to begin focusing on real reform in the
banking and financial services issue.
Those guys still have their noses firmly in the govt. trough without any
real end in site. I hope Obama listens to Paul Volker and wish he'd just
fire Larry Summers.

Interesting that you think more repetition of hate-speak will
resonate with the citizens that you think are that stupid that they
will become left-wing drones.

I don't think the left wing drone thing is valid but there are certainly a
lot of American's that are either plain stupid or easily manipulated.
We had eight years of dufus bush and company in case you've forgotten. That
didn't turn out very well.

How do you manage all your deep, deep
thoughts? You should be writing them all down in your manifesto!


How do you know I'm not? There might even be a chapter titled "BiPolar Tom".
LOL


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Bush and Cheney would be in jail by now.


But then, so would a high percentage of the US presidents in history.

Steve


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John R. Carroll wrote:

Interesting that you think more repetition of hate-speak will
resonate with the citizens that you think are that stupid that they
will become left-wing drones.

I don't think the left wing drone thing is valid but there are certainly a
lot of American's that are either plain stupid or easily manipulated.
We had eight years of dufus bush and company in case you've forgotten. That
didn't turn out very well.


Quite an understatement. But the right wing guys haven't forgotten what
a rotten job their last hero did but they pretend that it just never
happened. Instead of remembering how bad the right wing screwed things
up they are now focused on Obama. They're trying to pretend that Obama's
one year is as bad as Bush's eight were. Unfortunately, Obama is forced
to clean up after Bush's messes and it's going to take way more than one
year to do it. It's like mismanaging a football team until it's the
worst in the league. The next coach that gets that team isn't going to
turn things around for a long, long time. It's just like when Jimmy
Johnson was hired as the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. When he took over
that team stunk. When he was done they were in the Superbowl. The thing
is it took him years to turn things around. It's the same situation with
Obama and Bush. It's going to be years before Obama turns this country
around after eight years of Bush's bad management.

Hawke

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