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Plot to Wreck America
"RD (The Sandman)" wrote in message ... Cliff wrote in : On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:22:40 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Cliff wrote in : On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:57:09 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do we need that? 84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have. And wingers lie, right? More like the ~57% that have their employers paying for it .... and have never had any major need of it. Be that as it may, 84% of them are happy with what they have...why **** with it? Or were you thinking of all those getting Socialized government medical care (Medicare, State plans, Medicaid, federal employees, GIs & etc)? It was a survey of those with private healthcare. So "84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have." is a lie on the face of it & does not even count those without adequate insurance & probably not the dead either. Here, you need to see another poll: Which of these describes your health insurance costs? Expensive - 27.3% Fairly priced - 42.5% Low cost - 25.5% Don't know - 4.7% Source: USA Today and Opinion Research Corp. Survey of 1,003 adults Dec 4-7. Why fix what isn't as broke as some would have you believe? RD, it isn't like you to play games like this. Did you read the Opinion Research survey you're quoting? It says that 79% of those surveyed don't pay for their insurance themselves! Of COURSE they think it's "fairly priced." Free or heavily subsidized is a VERY nice price. d8-) http://news.ehealthinsurance.com/pr/...m_S urvey.pdf "So "84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have." is a lie on the face of it & does not even count those without adequate insurance & probably not the dead either." I know, it is not a Democrat voting poll. http://www.healthcare-now.org/anothe...-support-for-s ingle-payer/ [ A New York Times/CBS News poll released last week shows, yet again, that the majority of Americans support national health insurance. Probably why Coakley swept to an overwhelming victory in Massachusetts Tuesday. No, they probably supported Brown because they haven't read past the first 1,000 pages gag! of the health reform bill and they're being fed misleading baloney like what you posted above. The poll, which compares answers to the same questions from 30 years ago, finds that, "59% [of Americans] say the government should provide national health insurance, including 49% who say such insurance should cover all medical problems." Only 32% think that insurance should be left to private enterprise. ] Yep, probably why Brown lost so heavily on Tuesday. -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) Jeez. Please read polls before you post selected numbers from them. You could get big surprises. -- Ed Huntress |
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Plot to Wreck America
Ed Huntress wrote:
"RD (The Sandman)" wrote in message ... Cliff wrote in : On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:22:40 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Cliff wrote in : On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:57:09 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do we need that? 84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have. And wingers lie, right? More like the ~57% that have their employers paying for it .... and have never had any major need of it. Be that as it may, 84% of them are happy with what they have...why **** with it? Or were you thinking of all those getting Socialized government medical care (Medicare, State plans, Medicaid, federal employees, GIs & etc)? It was a survey of those with private healthcare. So "84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have." is a lie on the face of it & does not even count those without adequate insurance & probably not the dead either. Here, you need to see another poll: Which of these describes your health insurance costs? Expensive - 27.3% Fairly priced - 42.5% Low cost - 25.5% Don't know - 4.7% Source: USA Today and Opinion Research Corp. Survey of 1,003 adults Dec 4-7. Why fix what isn't as broke as some would have you believe? RD, it isn't like you to play games like this. Did you read the Opinion Research survey you're quoting? It says that 79% of those surveyed don't pay for their insurance themselves! Of COURSE they think it's "fairly priced." Free or heavily subsidized is a VERY nice price. d8-) http://news.ehealthinsurance.com/pr/...m_S urvey.pdf "So "84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have." is a lie on the face of it & does not even count those without adequate insurance & probably not the dead either." I know, it is not a Democrat voting poll. http://www.healthcare-now.org/anothe...-support-for-s ingle-payer/ [ A New York Times/CBS News poll released last week shows, yet again, that the majority of Americans support national health insurance. Probably why Coakley swept to an overwhelming victory in Massachusetts Tuesday. No, they probably supported Brown because they haven't read past the first 1,000 pages gag! of the health reform bill and they're being fed misleading baloney like what you posted above. The poll, which compares answers to the same questions from 30 years ago, finds that, "59% [of Americans] say the government should provide national health insurance, including 49% who say such insurance should cover all medical problems." Only 32% think that insurance should be left to private enterprise. ] Yep, probably why Brown lost so heavily on Tuesday. -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) Jeez. Please read polls before you post selected numbers from them. You could get big surprises. Welcome to Dufus America Ed. -- John R. Carroll |
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Plot to Wreck America
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Ed Huntress wrote: "RD (The Sandman)" wrote in message ... Cliff wrote in : On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:22:40 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Cliff wrote in : On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:57:09 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)" wrote: Why do we need that? 84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have. And wingers lie, right? More like the ~57% that have their employers paying for it .... and have never had any major need of it. Be that as it may, 84% of them are happy with what they have...why **** with it? Or were you thinking of all those getting Socialized government medical care (Medicare, State plans, Medicaid, federal employees, GIs & etc)? It was a survey of those with private healthcare. So "84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have." is a lie on the face of it & does not even count those without adequate insurance & probably not the dead either. Here, you need to see another poll: Which of these describes your health insurance costs? Expensive - 27.3% Fairly priced - 42.5% Low cost - 25.5% Don't know - 4.7% Source: USA Today and Opinion Research Corp. Survey of 1,003 adults Dec 4-7. Why fix what isn't as broke as some would have you believe? RD, it isn't like you to play games like this. Did you read the Opinion Research survey you're quoting? It says that 79% of those surveyed don't pay for their insurance themselves! Of COURSE they think it's "fairly priced." Free or heavily subsidized is a VERY nice price. d8-) http://news.ehealthinsurance.com/pr/...m_S urvey.pdf "So "84% of the people were happy with the healthcare that they have." is a lie on the face of it & does not even count those without adequate insurance & probably not the dead either." I know, it is not a Democrat voting poll. http://www.healthcare-now.org/anothe...-support-for-s ingle-payer/ [ A New York Times/CBS News poll released last week shows, yet again, that the majority of Americans support national health insurance. Probably why Coakley swept to an overwhelming victory in Massachusetts Tuesday. No, they probably supported Brown because they haven't read past the first 1,000 pages gag! of the health reform bill and they're being fed misleading baloney like what you posted above. The poll, which compares answers to the same questions from 30 years ago, finds that, "59% [of Americans] say the government should provide national health insurance, including 49% who say such insurance should cover all medical problems." Only 32% think that insurance should be left to private enterprise. ] Yep, probably why Brown lost so heavily on Tuesday. -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) Jeez. Please read polls before you post selected numbers from them. You could get big surprises. Welcome to Dufus America Ed. I've lived in Dufus America for over 60 years. g However, RD is not a dufus. He just slipped. 'Probably rushing the job... -- Ed Huntress |
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