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Nine new engines? -- six new transmissions? -- 60 new engines and transmissions?
F. George McDuffee wrote:
A continuation of the engine thread -- 60 new engines and transmissions????????? (1) How does introducing a new engine improve fuel economy/emissions? I think Ed pointed out some interesting engine designs recently. Soon heavy truck will be using engines with urea injection systems. That little, cough, change will drive up the price of heavy trucks a sizable bit more. I'm pretty coy about who for and where I work. I need to keep working. But let me tell you, regulations on diesel emissons have a greater effect on our business than our currently crashing economy. Having your business go up and down depending on regulation changes, engine prebuys, and all that crap really puts a strain on everyone in the manufacturing sector. (2) What new principals of physics have been discovered that required new engine design? This is driven by regulation. The makers are trying to eek out as much as they can. (3) What new production techniques such as ultra thin wall casting or new materials have been developed that justify new engine designs? This is driven by regulation. See above. (4) How much of this cost is the taxpayer going to pick up through corporate R&D deductions? As a follow-on, how many new jobs will be generated in the US to manufacture these new engines and transmissions? GM likely too much. Ford, likely on their dime. I sure hope Ford has a econo box that gets good gas mileage that can tow 1000# by the time my Saturn SL1 dies. 192,000 and rusting. I'd really hate buying a Toyota or Kia. I'm only interested in transportation that gets me there relibily at low cost. Living in Michigan, that means it has to last 10 years before it rusts away. I envy those California and Arizona types. I could keep a car going for the rest of my life if the body didn't waste away. Now let me pose a question. Considering the continously lowering of our standard of living, how much more regulation and additional cost, can we afford to support in our vehicle purchases? Wes -- Regulation, just another form of taxation. Wes |
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Nine new engines? -- six new transmissions? -- 60 new engines and transmissions?
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:21:57 -0500, Wes wrote:
snip Now let me pose a question. Considering the continously lowering of our standard of living, how much more regulation and additional cost, can we afford to support in our vehicle purchases? snip There appear to be two parallel questions: (1) The one you asked "how much more regulation and additional cost, can we afford to support..." The problem here is that we can't tell because the cost:benefit data is unavailable, incomplete or hidden. I have significant suspicion that we have gone far beyond the point of diminishing returns in many areas and that many of the programs have taken on a life of their own, and/or the programs are acting as band-aids for more systemic problems such as the over concentration of people/industry in a few [very] small areas such as the LA basin and the isle of Manhattan that would be more logically addressed by other regulations. and (2) "how much more regulation and additional cost, will we tolerate." FWIW -- it appears that many of the changes are due to some MBAs "wild hair" and have little to do with actual governmental regulation. One example is the proliferation of air and oil filters. In this particular case, a governmental regulation banning the introduction of new automotive oil and air filters and requiring the use of an existing filter [that could be upgraded to meet new requirements but must remain backward compatible, e.g. anti drainback valve] would result in a cost savings to the end user and a stabilization if not reduction in inventories. Unka George (George McDuffee) ............................... The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author. The Go-Between, Prologue (1953). |
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