Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient, upset
about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun under his
coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall
was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might be dead
in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast. Especially when
they get the letter telling them that their benefits have been reduced or
cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it doesn't
have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Sergeant, 66
years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient, upset
about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun under his
coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall
was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might be dead
in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast. Especially when
they get the letter telling them that their benefits have been reduced or
cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it doesn't
have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Sergeant, 66
years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your new
years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting off-topic
threads and advertising your inability to think. Congratulations, and
I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of societal collapse, and
in your frustration as the years pass with none of your fantasies
coming true. It's going to be fun to watch you idiots keep announcing
"it's starting" over and over again every time a crime takes place.

Wayne

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient, upset
about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun under his
coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall
was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might be dead
in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast. Especially when
they get the letter telling them that their benefits have been reduced or
cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it doesn't
have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people involved don't feel
bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Sergeant, 66
years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

I'll go out on a limb. GOING SOCIAL.

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient, upset
about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun under his
coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall
was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might be dead
in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast. Especially when
they get the letter telling them that their benefits have been reduced or
cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it doesn't
have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people involved don't feel
bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Sergeant, 66
years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your new
years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting off-topic
threads and advertising your inability to think. Congratulations, and
I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of societal collapse, and
in your frustration as the years pass with none of your fantasies
coming true. It's going to be fun to watch you idiots keep announcing
"it's starting" over and over again every time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday cranks.
They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're proselytizers...there's got to
be some money in it besides selling them primers and brass. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient,
upset about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun
under his coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead,
a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might
be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast.
Especially when they get the letter telling them that their
benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it
doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll be both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient,
upset about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun
under his coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead,
a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might
be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast.
Especially when they get the letter telling them that their
benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it
doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll be
both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a little
shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

--
Ed Huntress

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back and
watch and enjoy.

You're right. You're always right.

Steve

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient,
upset about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun
under his coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead,
a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might
be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast.
Especially when they get the letter telling them that their
benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it
doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll be
both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a little
shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

--
Ed Huntress

Timothy McVeigh action figures complete with toy rental trucks,
bulsa wood federal buildings and M80's for hours of realistic action packed
fun.

Best Regards
Tom.

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security
recipient, upset about a cut in benefits came into the building
with a shotgun under his coat. Before it was all over, a
security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the
perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might
be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast.
Especially when they get the letter telling them that their
benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it
doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again
every time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll
be both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a
little shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

A really clever soul would start a trading exchange in derivative products.
You could just skip the underlying asset part and go right to "HOOAH!"
without any regulation or oversight at all. The ratings agencies and SEC
wouldn't know whether to **** or go blind!
"HoT lEaD- bid 5000 @ 40/ offered 40000 @ 60"

--
John R. Carroll

Ed Huntress wrote:

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a little
shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.



Aw MAN, Ed, you are gonna just LOVE this guy...
He's ended the recession all by himself.

My favorite part is when he asks Amazon for a 1% Amazon credit for his trouble

To see what would happen, Brian Klug tried to buy a CD-ROM on Amazon of an
instructional science program mispriced at $2,875,934,133.57 (plus shipping).
What happened is that he bought it. Sounds like something similar as to what
happened with those $23 quadrillion Visa errors where binary zeroes became
hexadecimal spaces instead.
http://consumerist.com/2010/01/man-b...ld-happen.html

--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a
little shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.



Aw MAN, Ed, you are gonna just LOVE this guy...
He's ended the recession all by himself.

My favorite part is when he asks Amazon for a 1% Amazon credit for his
trouble

To see what would happen, Brian Klug tried to buy a CD-ROM on Amazon of an
instructional science program mispriced at $2,875,934,133.57 (plus
shipping). What happened is that he bought it. Sounds like something
similar as to what happened with those $23 quadrillion Visa errors where
binary zeroes became hexadecimal spaces instead.
http://consumerist.com/2010/01/man-b...ld-happen.html

--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

All RIGHT!! Now, THAT's economic stimulus.

(I think he should have gotten free shipping, don't you?)

Please keep us posted. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"azotic" wrote in message
...

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient,
upset about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun
under his coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead,
a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might
be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast.
Especially when they get the letter telling them that their
benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it
doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll be
both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a
little shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

--
Ed Huntress

Timothy McVeigh action figures complete with toy rental trucks,
bulsa wood federal buildings and M80's for hours of realistic action
packed fun.

Best Regards
Tom.

All right, now we're cooking. Explosions, mass killings. Hey, how about an
update of "Doom," called "Doomsday"?

You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy. If you
kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of gopher jerky.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
"azotic" wrote in message
...

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security
recipient, upset about a cut in benefits came into the building
with a shotgun under his coat. Before it was all over, a
security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the
perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who
might be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight
the beast. Especially when they get the letter telling them
that their benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that
it doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole
career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit
the crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened
to your new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're
starting off-topic threads and advertising your inability to
think. Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet
dreams of societal collapse, and in your frustration as the
years pass with none of your fantasies coming true. It's going
to be fun to watch you idiots keep announcing "it's starting"
over and over again every time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and
you'll be both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field
telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a
little shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

--
Ed Huntress

Timothy McVeigh action figures complete with toy rental trucks,
bulsa wood federal buildings and M80's for hours of realistic action
packed fun.

Best Regards
Tom.

All right, now we're cooking. Explosions, mass killings. Hey, how
about an update of "Doom," called "Doomsday"?

You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy.
If you kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of
gopher jerky.

Think X-Men, Ed.


--
John R. Carroll

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security
recipient, upset about a cut in benefits came into the building
with a shotgun under his coat. Before it was all over, a
security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the
perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might
be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast.
Especially when they get the letter telling them that their
benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it
doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again
every time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll
be both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a
little shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

A really clever soul would start a trading exchange in derivative
products.
You could just skip the underlying asset part and go right to "HOOAH!"
without any regulation or oversight at all. The ratings agencies and SEC
wouldn't know whether to **** or go blind!
"HoT lEaD- bid 5000 @ 40/ offered 40000 @ 60"

Isn't that what they already did? g

BTW, I'm almost finished with Krugman's _The Return of Depression Economics
and the Crisis of 2008_. It's a good, fairly quick read.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:13:08 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back and
watch and enjoy.

You're right. You're always right.

Steve

And in less than 2 yrs...its likely Whine will be killed by the People
when they finally get tired of the Leftists and stage the Great Cull.

Shrug

I hope they do it with a tool. Maybe a chainsaw.

Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security
recipient, upset about a cut in benefits came into the building
with a shotgun under his coat. Before it was all over, a
security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the
perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who
might be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight
the beast. Especially when they get the letter telling them
that their benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that
it doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole
career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit
the crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened
to your new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're
starting off-topic threads and advertising your inability to
think. Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet
dreams of societal collapse, and in your frustration as the
years pass with none of your fantasies coming true. It's going
to be fun to watch you idiots keep announcing "it's starting"
over and over again every time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll
be both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field
telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a
little shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

A really clever soul would start a trading exchange in derivative
products.
You could just skip the underlying asset part and go right to
"HOOAH!" without any regulation or oversight at all. The ratings
agencies and SEC wouldn't know whether to **** or go blind!
"HoT lEaD- bid 5000 @ 40/ offered 40000 @ 60"

Isn't that what they already did? g

Once upon a time there was a sub-prime mortgage, so no.
Almost though.


BTW, I'm almost finished with Krugman's _The Return of Depression
Economics and the Crisis of 2008_. It's a good, fairly quick read.

Yeah, Krugman is really beating the drum for another round of spending right
now.
He's probably right. I don't see that consumers have any real gas in the
tank and there isn't any reason for business to invest when capacity
utilization is at 60%.

--
John R. Carroll

"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security
recipient, upset about a cut in benefits came into the building
with a shotgun under his coat. Before it was all over, a
security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall was wounded, and the
perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who
might be dead in six months are going to be wanting to fight
the beast. Especially when they get the letter telling them
that their benefits have been reduced or cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that
it doesn't have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people
involved don't feel bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Sergeant, 66 years old, who had given of himself his whole
career.

Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit
the crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened
to your new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're
starting off-topic threads and advertising your inability to
think. Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet
dreams of societal collapse, and in your frustration as the
years pass with none of your fantasies coming true. It's going
to be fun to watch you idiots keep announcing "it's starting"
over and over again every time a crime takes place.

Wayne

There must be a way to make some good money off of these doomsday
cranks. They're gullible, they're paranoid, they're
proselytizers...there's got to be some money in it besides selling
them primers and brass. d8-)

Start making and selling POG's cast from wheel weights Ed.
You can market them as stealth supplies for bullet molds and you'll
be both
rich and famous.
LOL

--
John R. Carroll

Hmm. There's a germ of an idea there, John. Some kind of violent
defense...claymores disguised as antique field
telephones...something.

Anyway, it's keeping the gun stores busy for now, and it's giving a
little shot, if you'll excuse the pun, to the economy.

A really clever soul would start a trading exchange in derivative
products.
You could just skip the underlying asset part and go right to
"HOOAH!" without any regulation or oversight at all. The ratings
agencies and SEC wouldn't know whether to **** or go blind!
"HoT lEaD- bid 5000 @ 40/ offered 40000 @ 60"

Isn't that what they already did? g

Once upon a time there was a sub-prime mortgage, so no.
Almost though.


BTW, I'm almost finished with Krugman's _The Return of Depression
Economics and the Crisis of 2008_. It's a good, fairly quick read.

Yeah, Krugman is really beating the drum for another round of spending
right
now.
He's probably right. I don't see that consumers have any real gas in the
tank and there isn't any reason for business to invest when capacity
utilization is at 60%.

--
John R. Carroll

If you've looked around, you see that there are quite a few economists
saying "don't stop now, fer chrissake." Unlike Congress, they know what
happened in 1937, and they don't want to see a repeat.

They can't seem to get in into their heads that what got us out of the
Depression was the biggest make-work, deficit-spending, money-printing
stimulus of all time: World War II.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

BTW, I'm almost finished with Krugman's _The Return of Depression
Economics and the Crisis of 2008_. It's a good, fairly quick read.

Yeah, Krugman is really beating the drum for another round of
spending right
now.
He's probably right. I don't see that consumers have any real gas in
the tank and there isn't any reason for business to invest when
capacity utilization is at 60%.

--
John R. Carroll

If you've looked around, you see that there are quite a few economists
saying "don't stop now, fer chrissake." Unlike Congress, they know
what happened in 1937, and they don't want to see a repeat.

They can't seem to get in into their heads that what got us out of the
Depression was the biggest make-work, deficit-spending, money-printing
stimulus of all time: World War II.

I read his last editorial.
Good sense and bad electoral politics.
I wonder which will win out?


--
John R. Carroll

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:13:08 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back
and
watch and enjoy.

You're right. You're always right.

Steve

And in less than 2 yrs...its likely Whine will be killed by the People
when they finally get tired of the Leftists and stage the Great Cull.

Shrug

I hope they do it with a tool. Maybe a chainsaw.

Gunner


Doesn't it sound like the libtards are whistling past the graveyard? But
hey, if it makes them feel good about themselves...so long as they get the
opportunity to spew hate.

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...


All right, now we're cooking. Explosions, mass killings. Hey, how about an
update of "Doom," called "Doomsday"?

You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy. If you
kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of gopher
jerky.

--
Ed Huntress


interesting show on pbs late last night "The War of the World". this
episode was about the cold war, how super powers had proxies fight their
wars for them. the thing about this episode that struck me was you got the
feeling that ethnic rivalries figured into a large part of the wars the
narrator described (genocides in rwanda, yugoslavia, cambodia). it was
scary. he laid out the conditions that spawned ethnic flare ups. economic
collapse was large among them. i thought of some of the discussions here.
i think the program was dated 2007. he was saying the people at teh edges
of empire suffer the worst. made me wonder if the middle east would be
considered being at the edge of empire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtw6UWx_UuA




check out this guy's artwork. (i get a feeling from him of ethnic/racial
tolerance.)

http://www.jr-art.net/

i found this image in particular striking.

(http://www.jr-art.net/ themes Brésil )

http://www.jr-art.net/images/photos/...videncia_1.jpg

On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 01:58:06 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:13:08 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back
and
watch and enjoy.

You're right. You're always right.

Steve

And in less than 2 yrs...its likely Whine will be killed by the People
when they finally get tired of the Leftists and stage the Great Cull.

Shrug

I hope they do it with a tool. Maybe a chainsaw.

Gunner


Doesn't it sound like the libtards are whistling past the graveyard? But
hey, if it makes them feel good about themselves...so long as they get the
opportunity to spew hate.


And then die. I can go with that. Shrug..give em a couple minutes to
shout their hate out to the crew, then snuff em. Or not. Shrug.
Probably most of the crews will be bored by killing ****ting their
pants, ****ing in their loafers and sniveling on their shirts
leftwingers..so they will likely simply snuff em in whatever fashion is
the fastest..and then move on to the next name on the list.

But Ive put in some Special Requests...and with luck..they will take
their lunch breaks while the Specials dance on tippy toes as the barbed
wire nooses slowly tighten.....

And Ive been promised videos!!

Cool dude!

Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

As much as I dislike non-metalworking posts, paricularly ones that aren't
even marked OT:, there are a few details that maybe should be stated.

As there are some retirees, or others close to retirement, that participate
in RCM, some other info may be worthwhile.

This isn't a new event. Another shot-gun-type incident took place in
Pittsburgh a few years ago. The firearm was described as some sort of
fabricated or improvised weapon. One or 2 agency personnel shot at
point-blank range as they sat at a table with the claimant (also an older
man, IIRC).

The number of armed security at a regional Social Security location (federal
building type of environment) are probably greater than anywhere else the
public might visit, wih exception of military bases, airports and LEO
agencies, or possibly courthouses.

When I saw a uniformed, armed man at a local SS office a few years ago (as I
passed by to go to another office in the same building), I thought he might
have been a cop checking into his SS account.
After another visit to the same building, he was present again. Not a cop, a
full-time armed security gaurd (SS office in a small city).

At the time, I recall trying to remember the last time I saw an armed gaurd
at a bank, but wasn't able to, it had been so long.

From the number of folks that I'm familiar with that have needed to resort
to disability benefits, the claimants are seen as adversaries of the SS
system (The Government).

Odd, I thought, as we were taught in school that SS is an insurance
program.. pay in during your working years, and withdraw at retirement, or
in case of a debilitating injury or disabiliy.

In recent weeks, I've read and heard on the news that the AARP claimed that
it's members were in favor of retirement benefits cuts. Right.
The most frequent problem reported by senior citizens, for years, has been
that they can't afford their medications. But AARP says seniors/members
approve benefit cuts.
Let's not talk about the old folks that are found dead, frozen to the floor,
that have been eating garbage to survive, as those would be labeled as
hoaxes.
Maybe some ederly folks just can't afford the AARP membership fees.

One would definitely not want to become unable to work without the resources
to live on today.
Some folks may have to get to a warm climate and find a cozy space under a
bridge that's not already occupied, and be prepared to defend it.

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Las Vegas, Nevada. Federal Building. A Social Security recipient, upset
about a cut in benefits came into the building with a shotgun under his
coat. Before it was all over, a security guard was dead, a U.S. Marshall
was wounded, and the perp was dead.

Lots of people with no hope living on subsistence levels who might be dead
in six months are going to be wanting to fight the beast. Especially when
they get the letter telling them that their benefits have been reduced or
cancelled.

It's the next thing to receive a PC label. Just to insure that it doesn't
have a derogatory meaning, and therefore the people involved don't feel
bad
about themselves.

Steve

RIP - The dead SO was a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Sergeant, 66
years old, who had given of himself his whole career.

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 01:58:06 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:13:08 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back
and
watch and enjoy.

You're right. You're always right.

Steve

And in less than 2 yrs...its likely Whine will be killed by the People
when they finally get tired of the Leftists and stage the Great Cull.

Shrug

I hope they do it with a tool. Maybe a chainsaw.

Gunner


Doesn't it sound like the libtards are whistling past the graveyard? But
hey, if it makes them feel good about themselves...so long as they get the
opportunity to spew hate.


And then die. I can go with that. Shrug..give em a couple minutes to
shout their hate out to the crew, then snuff em. Or not. Shrug.
Probably most of the crews will be bored by killing ****ting their
pants, ****ing in their loafers and sniveling on their shirts
leftwingers..so they will likely simply snuff em in whatever fashion is
the fastest..and then move on to the next name on the list.

But Ive put in some Special Requests...and with luck..they will take
their lunch breaks while the Specials dance on tippy toes as the barbed
wire nooses slowly tighten.....

And Ive been promised videos!!

Cool dude!

Gunner


So many graves, so little urine.

Gunner Asch wrote:
O
You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy. If you
kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of gopher
jerky.

--
Ed Huntress


I hope Ed doesnt get caught up in the Great Cull. He is nearly a
Leftwinger...and while Ive put out a plea for his survival...it may go
unheard.

The fate of so many Leftards in the very near future....


It's not just the people you think you hate that are at risk, folks.

It's ALL of us.

We have become so fragmented that it would be (is being?) real easy to
distract the masses with dragons and sub-species.

I fear for my country...

On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 02:58:21 -0500, "Wild_Bill"
wrote:

As much as I dislike non-metalworking posts, paricularly ones that aren't
even marked OT:, there are a few details that maybe should be stated.

As there are some retirees, or others close to retirement, that participate
in RCM, some other info may be worthwhile.

This isn't a new event. Another shot-gun-type incident took place in
Pittsburgh a few years ago. The firearm was described as some sort of
fabricated or improvised weapon. One or 2 agency personnel shot at
point-blank range as they sat at a table with the claimant (also an older
man, IIRC).

The number of armed security at a regional Social Security location (federal
building type of environment) are probably greater than anywhere else the
public might visit, wih exception of military bases, airports and LEO
agencies, or possibly courthouses.

When I saw a uniformed, armed man at a local SS office a few years ago (as I
passed by to go to another office in the same building), I thought he might
have been a cop checking into his SS account.
After another visit to the same building, he was present again. Not a cop, a
full-time armed security gaurd (SS office in a small city).

At the time, I recall trying to remember the last time I saw an armed gaurd
at a bank, but wasn't able to, it had been so long.

From the number of folks that I'm familiar with that have needed to resort
to disability benefits, the claimants are seen as adversaries of the SS
system (The Government).

Odd, I thought, as we were taught in school that SS is an insurance
program.. pay in during your working years, and withdraw at retirement, or
in case of a debilitating injury or disabiliy.

In recent weeks, I've read and heard on the news that the AARP claimed that
it's members were in favor of retirement benefits cuts. Right.
The most frequent problem reported by senior citizens, for years, has been
that they can't afford their medications. But AARP says seniors/members
approve benefit cuts.
Let's not talk about the old folks that are found dead, frozen to the floor,
that have been eating garbage to survive, as those would be labeled as
hoaxes.
Maybe some ederly folks just can't afford the AARP membership fees.

One would definitely not want to become unable to work without the resources
to live on today.
Some folks may have to get to a warm climate and find a cozy space under a
bridge that's not already occupied, and be prepared to defend it.


So thats what they were talking about when that Hopey-Changey thing
first came up?

Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:19:35 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 01:58:06 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:13:08 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back
and
watch and enjoy.

You're right. You're always right.

Steve

And in less than 2 yrs...its likely Whine will be killed by the People
when they finally get tired of the Leftists and stage the Great Cull.

Shrug

I hope they do it with a tool. Maybe a chainsaw.

Gunner


Doesn't it sound like the libtards are whistling past the graveyard? But
hey, if it makes them feel good about themselves...so long as they get the
opportunity to spew hate.


And then die. I can go with that. Shrug..give em a couple minutes to
shout their hate out to the crew, then snuff em. Or not. Shrug.
Probably most of the crews will be bored by killing ****ting their
pants, ****ing in their loafers and sniveling on their shirts
leftwingers..so they will likely simply snuff em in whatever fashion is
the fastest..and then move on to the next name on the list.

But Ive put in some Special Requests...and with luck..they will take
their lunch breaks while the Specials dance on tippy toes as the barbed
wire nooses slowly tighten.....

And Ive been promised videos!!

Cool dude!

Gunner


So many graves, so little urine.


But..there is lots of beer, and lots of Mt Dew..and we can make more
urine.

VBG

I can see it now..as conservatives retire..and go on vactions..they will
stop at famous mass graves..such as Oakland, or DC..and get nicely
loaded in celebration and then **** on the tops of the mass graves
covering thousands of Leftwingers. Beer in one hand..dick in the other
as they celebrate the end of the Bad Period in American history, where
Lefwingers nearly destroyed America..but were brought down and destroyed
by The People.

When I retire..Ill bring Mt. Dew..and **** on Every mass grave I can
make it to. Glorious..absolutely Glorious!


Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:29:41 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
O
You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy. If you
kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of gopher
jerky.

--
Ed Huntress


I hope Ed doesnt get caught up in the Great Cull. He is nearly a
Leftwinger...and while Ive put out a plea for his survival...it may go
unheard.

The fate of so many Leftards in the very near future....


It's not just the people you think you hate that are at risk, folks.

It's ALL of us.

We have become so fragmented that it would be (is being?) real easy to
distract the masses with dragons and sub-species.

Nope. Its not all of us. Its simply the Left. Everyone else has
gotten along pretty nicely for most of American history, sharing the
same values, same love of country, love of nation etc etc.

The American hating Leftists however..have done everything they can do
to destroy not only the Constitution, but our freedoms, our hopes, our
dreams, our very way of life and set up a Socialist/Marxist totalitarian
state where once a free and open nation once was.

Im sure you remember that part of the Oath we both have taken..that
mentions "protect and defend against all enemies of the Constitution,
both foreign and domestic"

Shrug...once they have been defeated, killed in mass...the nation can
get back to recovering from its 40 yrs of sinking decline..and become a
great nation again.

I fear for my country...

I dont. I know the People. While they are slow to rise.."when they
awaken..their fury will be a thing to behold"...as Yamamoto so well
said.

Shrug

It wont be pretty, it wont be nice, it will be nasty nasty
nasty..but..it has to be done, or America is finished.

And the People are becoming more and more aware of it.

The Great Cull is indeed coming.


Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 01:58:06 -0500, "Buerste" wrote:

snip

Doesn't it sound like the libtards are whistling past the graveyard? But
hey, if it makes them feel good about themselves...so long as they get the
opportunity to spew hate.


And then die. I can go with that. Shrug..give em a couple minutes to
shout their hate out to the crew, then snuff em. Or not. Shrug.
Probably most of the crews will be bored by killing ****ting their
pants, ****ing in their loafers and sniveling on their shirts
leftwingers..so they will likely simply snuff em in whatever fashion is
the fastest..and then move on to the next name on the list.

But Ive put in some Special Requests...and with luck..they will take
their lunch breaks while the Specials dance on tippy toes as the barbed
wire nooses slowly tighten.....

And Ive been promised videos!!

Cool dude!

HAHAhahahoho...

Here's Tom and Gunner, talking about the left "shouting hate," while they
fantasize about "snuffing" them and hanging them with barbed wire. g

I guess all of their mirrors are broken...

--
Ed Huntress

On 2010-01-05, Gunner Asch wrote:
So..are you staying or moving to Canada? Since you Leftwingers are so
well armed....snicker...Im sure you will have no problem fighting off at

The theory you are espousing, is not new, it is called "class
warfare".

American rightwingers are way too timid to pull anything like this,
off.

i

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:04:56 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:29:41 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
O
You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy. If you
kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of gopher
jerky.

--
Ed Huntress


I hope Ed doesnt get caught up in the Great Cull. He is nearly a
Leftwinger...and while Ive put out a plea for his survival...it may go
unheard.

The fate of so many Leftards in the very near future....


It's not just the people you think you hate that are at risk, folks.

It's ALL of us.

We have become so fragmented that it would be (is being?) real easy to
distract the masses with dragons and sub-species.

Nope. Its not all of us. Its simply the Left. Everyone else has
gotten along pretty nicely for most of American history, sharing the
same values,

Oh, I see. You imagine yourself in some admirable group that shares
the values of 101 flavors of irresponsibility, such as ignoring debts,
pathological lying, and a lifestyle guaranteed to maximize your cost
to society.

same love of country, love of nation etc etc.

.... and your group demonstrates this "love" of country by promoting
treason and anarchy.

The American hating Leftists however..have done everything they can do
to destroy not only the Constitution, but our freedoms, our hopes, our
dreams, our very way of life and set up a Socialist/Marxist totalitarian
state where once a free and open nation once was.

Im sure you remember that part of the Oath we both have taken..that
mentions "protect and defend against all enemies of the Constitution,
both foreign and domestic"

Shrug...once they have been defeated, killed in mass...the nation can
get back to recovering from its 40 yrs of sinking decline..and become a
great nation again.

Seriously, man, you need some form of mental-health intervention. But
apparently nobody thinks enough of you to help, so we'll have to wait
for natural selection to end your misery. Maybe next time you write
about going hungry and having your power turned off for nonpayment,
somebody can start a thread titled "it's starting".

Wayne

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:08:50 -0600, Ignoramus17642
wrote:

On 2010-01-05, Gunner Asch wrote:
So..are you staying or moving to Canada? Since you Leftwingers are so
well armed....snicker...Im sure you will have no problem fighting off at

The theory you are espousing, is not new, it is called "class
warfare".

Class warfare? Pity your ignorance about military matters is so broad
and deep.

Its called Civil War.

American rightwingers are way too timid to pull anything like this,
off.

i

Pray really hard that you are right. That way when they simply hang you
from a street sign...it will be a big surprise. Hummm..you leftwingers
dont pray do you. No matter. You will still be dead.

Works for me.

Gunner


"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:13:08 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back and
watch and enjoy.

Hey, you forgot that you claimed to have killfiled me *again*! How
many times does that make, and how fu$%ing phony can you get?

You're right.

You bet I am, and making a habit of that is why I'm not the idiot
who's sinking in his old age and hoping that lawsuits and anarchy will
make up for a dearth of common sense.

You're always right.

No, not always. But this is a no-brainer. People like you have been
preaching doom forever. Just the other night I saw some clips of a
Dakota nutjob spouting the same baloney you're so fond of. He was
adamant that the collapse of society was going to happen any day, and
he was ready with his guns... in '97. More recently we had editor
telling us it would come last June, and only weeks ago gummer said
that "it was starting" when some cops got shot. But you idiots refuse
to learn from each others' mistakes, so you'll keep right on saying
that every new cop killing or whatever is the new "start", even though
an average of something like 150 cops are killed every year. Revel in
your ignorance, it's exactly what you deserve.

Wayne

On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:00:58 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:13:08 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:



Take a hard look in the mirror, nitwit. You've become every bit the
crackpot as gardner, gummer, and editor. And what happened to your
new years resolutions? 4 days into the year and you're starting
off-topic threads and advertising your inability to think.
Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy stewing in your wet dreams of
societal collapse, and in your frustration as the years pass with
none of your fantasies coming true. It's going to be fun to watch
you idiots keep announcing "it's starting" over and over again every
time a crime takes place.

Wayne

You're right, Wayne. You, and your ilk are not worth my time. Set back and
watch and enjoy.

You're right. You're always right.

Steve

And in less than 2 yrs...its likely Whine will be killed by the People
when they finally get tired of the Leftists and stage the Great Cull.

Shrug

Hey lookee, gummy finally budged off his 3 year thing! What are the
odds that he'll forget that he reduced it to 2, and be back to 3
within hours?

I hope they do it with a tool. Maybe a chainsaw.

Oops, you also forgot how many times you've said that you wish the
"great cull" wouldn't happen. Why do you imagine that anyone should
take you seriously when you contradict yourself daily? The BS flows
out of you like sewage from a septic pumper, but that has nothing to
do with you being a brokedown brokeass, right?

Wayne

On Jan 5, 10:01*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:08:50 -0600, Ignoramus17642

wrote:
On 2010-01-05, Gunner Asch wrote:
So..are you staying or moving to Canada? *Since you Leftwingers are so
well armed....snicker...Im sure you will have no problem fighting off at

The theory you are espousing, is not new, it is called "class
warfare".

Class warfare? *Pity your ignorance about military matters is so broad
and deep.

Its called Civil War.



American rightwingers are way too timid to pull anything like this,
off.

i

Pray really hard that you are right. That way when they simply hang you
from a street sign...it will be a big surprise. *Hummm..you leftwingers
dont pray do you. No matter. *You will still be dead.

Works for me.

Gunner


I don't think Iggy is a leftwinger, and for sure I know I am not.

Of course to those of the faux news persuasion, anyone towards the
center compared to hannity, beck, etc. is a flaming liberal. Indeed,
that was uncle rupert's stated purpose in starting fox news.

As inevitable as you see these things, I certainly hope you don't
think any of what you are talking about is right or good.
If you do, I suggest it would be better if the culling went the other
way, as destructive as the left can be they at least don't think that
greatness can be achieved by killing off those that dissent.

Dave

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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:21:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote:

BTW, I'm almost finished with Krugman's _The Return of Depression
Economics and the Crisis of 2008_. It's a good, fairly quick read.

Yeah, Krugman is really beating the drum for another round of
spending right
now.
He's probably right. I don't see that consumers have any real gas in
the tank and there isn't any reason for business to invest when
capacity utilization is at 60%.

--
John R. Carroll

If you've looked around, you see that there are quite a few economists
saying "don't stop now, fer chrissake." Unlike Congress, they know
what happened in 1937, and they don't want to see a repeat.

They can't seem to get in into their heads that what got us out of the
Depression was the biggest make-work, deficit-spending, money-printing
stimulus of all time: World War II.

I read his last editorial.
Good sense and bad electoral politics.
I wonder which will win out?

My money is on politics. It's my hedge fund. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

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All right, now we're cooking. Explosions, mass killings. Hey, how about
an update of "Doom," called "Doomsday"?

You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy. If
you kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of gopher
jerky.

--
Ed Huntress


interesting show on pbs late last night "The War of the World". this
episode was about the cold war, how super powers had proxies fight their
wars for them. the thing about this episode that struck me was you got
the feeling that ethnic rivalries figured into a large part of the wars
the narrator described (genocides in rwanda, yugoslavia, cambodia). it
was scary. he laid out the conditions that spawned ethnic flare ups.
economic collapse was large among them. i thought of some of the
discussions here. i think the program was dated 2007. he was saying the
people at teh edges of empire suffer the worst. made me wonder if the
middle east would be considered being at the edge of empire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtw6UWx_UuA




check out this guy's artwork. (i get a feeling from him of ethnic/racial
tolerance.)

http://www.jr-art.net/

i found this image in particular striking.

(http://www.jr-art.net/ themes Brésil )

http://www.jr-art.net/images/photos/...videncia_1.jpg


Neat images. Big Sister is Watching You? Scary.

--
Ed Huntress

"cavelamb" wrote in message
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Gunner Asch wrote:
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You can select the hated ethnic group of your choice for the enemy. If
you kill ten homeless Arabs, you get two cans of Spam and a box of
gopher jerky.

--
Ed Huntress


I hope Ed doesnt get caught up in the Great Cull. He is nearly a
Leftwinger...and while Ive put out a plea for his survival...it may go
unheard.

The fate of so many Leftards in the very near future....


It's not just the people you think you hate that are at risk, folks.

It's ALL of us.

We have become so fragmented that it would be (is being?) real easy to
distract the masses with dragons and sub-species.

I fear for my country...

Mostly, just worry about Gunner. He must be on 100 lists by now, and they're
all waiting for an excuse. g

--
Ed Huntress

Let the Record show that Gunner Asch on or
about Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:01:54 -0800 did write/type or cause to
appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

So people of the 'wrong' ideology will be on the ground, beaten by
soldiers?

No. Where did you get that foolish idea?

The People themselves will simply rise up and kill the enemies of the
United States. Leftwingers will be decimated. The Constitution will be
restored and all will be well. With luck..during the Great Cull...the
soldiers will simply guard their bases and stay out of it. Lets both
hope they do. Because if they dont..keep in mind that 80% of the
military is conservative and when they kill their enemies...cities are
destroyed.

"I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading
with you with tears in my eyes: If you **** with me, I'll kill you
all."
Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders

OTOH, with today's precision weapons, you don't have to flatten
the city. You an, and with the application of less effort than
before, but you don't have to.

Look at the photos of Europe's cities, 1945. Compare them to the
cities after the Mongols came through in the 13th century. The main
difference is that the Horde was more labor intensive, and were able
to provide "personal service" to the living before they became the
dead.
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Let the Record show that "Buerste" on or about
Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:19:35 -0500 did write/type or cause to appear in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Doesn't it sound like the libtards are whistling past the graveyard? But
hey, if it makes them feel good about themselves...so long as they get the
opportunity to spew hate.


And then die. I can go with that. Shrug..give em a couple minutes to
shout their hate out to the crew, then snuff em. Or not. Shrug.
Probably most of the crews will be bored by killing ****ting their
pants, ****ing in their loafers and sniveling on their shirts
leftwingers..so they will likely simply snuff em in whatever fashion is
the fastest..and then move on to the next name on the list.

But Ive put in some Special Requests...and with luck..they will take
their lunch breaks while the Specials dance on tippy toes as the barbed
wire nooses slowly tighten.....

And Ive been promised videos!!

Cool dude!

Gunner


So many graves, so little urine.

Is old Yiddish curse: May you fall in an out house, just as a
Battalion of Ukrainians finishes a prune borscht and beer dinner.

drink beer.
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gunner Asch"

The People themselves will simply rise up and kill the enemies of the
United States. Leftwingers will be decimated.
....

Oh Phew!
That's a relief.
Only 10% to be culled.

I thought you'd suggested much more then that.

--
Jeff R.