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On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:08:11 -0700, Gunner Asch
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Now the house is paid off


http://tinyurl.com/d7hkkp That's 25 years of liens, so how the f*&k do
you have to nerve to call it a paid-for home? Why do you keep lying
about that? You've already admitted to owing $12k on it, and it's only
a matter of time before somebody posts the real amount. The truth is
most likely that you owe so much more than the home is worth that the
creditors can't win by kicking you out.

I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it


Last we heard you owed months of rent on that thing. Nobody will be
surprised when you walk away leaving yet more unpaid bills.

I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse.


Why are you here thickening up your ass callous BSing about making
money *after* the "collapse"? Why not concentrate on making some money
*now*, and pay off some of your creditors, you shameless, lying
windbag.

Wayne


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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:55:34 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:


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Leon Fisk wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:17:25 -0400, Wes
wrote:

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When I get closer to pulling the trigger on the helo, I'll re-read your
comments you made
last winter. I really want a helo. The package I'd carry would be a
camera. I am not
into the coaxial large scale air hog equivalents. I want it to have all
the functions of a
real helo.

Don't know if such a thing is available or not, but I would
look for a small "blimp" type craft that could be remote
controlled.

You would spend a lot less time concentrating on flying it,
have a much smoother platform (if it isn't too windy) and it
should be a lot more forgiving crash wise.

Roger probably knows if there is anything like this that us
normal folks could afford in the blimp line.

Probably wouldn't be as much fun to fly though


I saw an RC blimp last fall at a UWM basketball game, about 12 ft
long. I think even a mild breeze would have it quickly in the next county.

I found lots of google hits with RC, blimp.

http://www.rcblimp.com/

David



Wayyyyyy Cool!!

"Powered by gas or electric engines depending upon the size, the outdoor
Remote Control Nylon Blimp can operate in winds from 10 to 15 mph with
full 360 degree vectoring allowing for complete reverse flight. The
gondola is either polystyrene or fiberglass, depending on the size of
the blimp. The vector arm (movable arm which holds and rotates the
motors) rotates 360 degrees and is made of FAA-approved T-6 aircraft
aluminum, as are the motor mounts. This design facilitates infinite
hovering control as well as enabling the airship to reverse if needed."


Humm...I wonder how much "payload" one of those babies would carry?
Video and high explosives......just pondering for the sake of the
discussion. Shrug....

Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal
State Fresno


I always thought a great terrorist weapon (I shouldn't be giving them any
ideas here) would be a GPS guided model with some kind of chemical or
biological weapon. Set to fly over any outdoor event and release payload.
Model could be launched from miles away and return to be reloaded.

RogerN

Hold that thought....the time is approaching where such mischief may
actually occur.....G

Hypothetically speaking of course!

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:24:05 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
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On Jul 5, 7:11*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:36:37 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:
On Jul 5, 5:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Did he say that? He said that this is an irresponsibly dangerous
device,


His opinion is noted. As is the likely basis for him holding it. Either
he is a little girl mentally....or the idea of a privately owned remote
controlled, *armed gunship scares the **** out of him. *Hence his snoody
comment about it shooting the pilot in the head.


Or maybe he knows more about RC helicopters than you do.


Virtually any serious shooter..life long gun buff would have a woody
over that toy.


So why don't you build one?


Do you know that I have, or have not?


VBG


No, I don't. And I don't think I'd believe you if you said you did,
nor would I believe you if you said you didn't.


Btw..Ive about 500 *hours in Rangers, Hillers and so forth.


As a passenger, as PIC, or in your dreams. What license do you hold,
and why aren't you earning a living with it? Rotary pilots are in
demand these days.


Right seat of course. *Though Left Seat did tend to nap a lot. Shrug.

You certainly try to cast the worst *you can, doncha? PIC? *Did I ever
claim to be a chopper Pilot?


Generally, in the aviation community, saying "I have xxx hours in yyy
aircraft" refers to time in you logbook. Loggable time would be PIC,
student, or as an FAA required crew member. You were none of the
above. As usual.


So why is there a Right Seat and controls?




And what does your time in "Rangers, Hillers and so forth" have to do
with radio controlled helicopters? Zero, that's what. If you think
that any real-world knowledge of full-sized aircraft operation
translates to RC models, you're sadly mistaken.


Did I claim it did? *Chuckle..dangling the hook in front of you is soooo
rewarding.
Laugh laugh laugh


You brought it up, moron.


And you took the hook, line and sinker, buffoon.

Btw..how much rotary time in real helos do you have?


Zero, and I never claimed otherwise.

Or have you always been a toy pilot?


Nope. Between me and my brothers, we have two private pilot licenses,
two seaplane ratings, one instrument rating, one glider rating and one
glider instructor's certificate. I have spent a LOT of time around
aircraft.


So then you dont fly regular aircraft, just toys, and envy the **** out
of your brothers. I take it you couldnt pass the physical or mental
exam?

I haven't "always" been a toy pilot, but I was a founding member of
the County model airplane society which built a fully AMA sanctioned
500' paved runway and seaplane dock.


So a fancy officer in a toy aircraft organization.

I have also designed remote controlled video equipment both for toys
and for operations in hazardous environments. I can tell you with
certainty that the requirements are not even a little bit similar.


Which requirements are you referring to?

Gunner


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:29:46 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
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On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck

wrote:

Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.

The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


Have you quit smoking yet?


Nope. But Im doing between 8 and 10 in a 24 hr period. Which is half or
less of what I was doing for 45 yrs.

Have you quit blowing men in public restrooms?


And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.

Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Absolutely, positively, none of your ****ing business.


Perk! To be followed up on for sure.!


Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Plenty of buyers for me. I have a backlog of work.


Sure you do. Ayup.


Now the house is paid off,


A rather fully documented fantasy of yours.


Odd..Ive the title in a frame in my office. Ok..provide cites and data.
Else you are a lying faggot. G

We can forgive you for the fag part..but not for being a bald faced
liar.

I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be,


That'd be about your style, wouldn't it.


What are you blithering about?

or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.

How about you? Got that much in savings?


Way, way more than that. You really are totally without a clue,
Gunner.


Cool! Then we really dont have anything else to chat about do we?

G

Gunner


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
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On Jul 5, 9:44*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

Generally, in the aviation community, saying "I have xxx hours in yyy
aircraft" refers to time in you logbook. Loggable time would be PIC,
student, or as an FAA required crew member. You were none of the
above. As usual.


So why is there a Right Seat and controls? *


Would you please try to be less of an idiot, or are you really
incapable of serious discussion? In the right seat, you can be PIC.
You can also be an instructor, and most of that time would be logged
as PIC. You can also be a required crew member, depending on the
nature of the flight. Look it up, numbskull.

The right seat is certainly not put there so that passengers can claim
to have logged time in the aircraft.

And what does your time in "Rangers, Hillers and so forth" have to do
with radio controlled helicopters? Zero, that's what. If you think
that any real-world knowledge of full-sized aircraft operation
translates to RC models, you're sadly mistaken.


Did I claim it did? *Chuckle..dangling the hook in front of you is soooo
rewarding.
Laugh laugh laugh


You brought it up, moron.


And you took the hook, line and sinker, buffoon.


And thus, Gunner takes great pride in being the troll that he is.



Btw..how much rotary time in real helos do you have?


Zero, and I never claimed otherwise.


Or have you always been a toy pilot?


Nope. Between me and my brothers, we have two private pilot licenses,
two seaplane ratings, one instrument rating, one glider rating and one
glider instructor's certificate. I have spent a LOT of time around
aircraft.


So then you dont fly regular aircraft, just toys, *and envy the **** out
of *your brothers. *I take it you couldnt pass the physical or mental
exam?


Did I say which of had which licenses or ratings? No, I didn't think
so. You're a ****ing idiot.

I haven't "always" been a toy pilot, but I was a founding member of
the County model airplane society which built a fully AMA sanctioned
500' paved runway and seaplane dock.


So a fancy officer in a toy aircraft organization. *


Not hardly. You'd **** if you saw some of the "toys" flying at that
field.




I have also designed remote controlled video equipment both for toys
and for operations in hazardous environments. I can tell you with
certainty that the requirements are not even a little bit similar.


Which requirements are you referring to?


Well, for starters, there's resistance to interference, something
that's not abundant in hobby controllers. Don't get me wrong, some of
the digital controllers are very nice for controlling non-critical
devices, but not nearly fault-resistant enough to control potentially
lethal equipment.


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On Jul 5, 9:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:29:46 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.


The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


Have you quit smoking yet?


Nope. But Im doing between 8 and 10 in a 24 hr period. Which is half or
less of what I was doing for 45 yrs.


Nice start. Still more than enough to kill you, though.


Have you quit blowing men in public restrooms?


What the **** are you talking about? That's really the best you've
got?




And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.


Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Absolutely, positively, none of your ****ing business.


Perk! *To be followed up on for sure.!



Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Plenty of buyers for me. I have a backlog of work.


Sure you do. *Ayup.



Now the house is paid off,


A rather fully documented fantasy of yours.


Odd..Ive the title in a frame in my office. *Ok..provide cites and data..
Else you are a lying faggot. G


Oh, we've all seen the tax liens, let's not go down that road again.


We can forgive you for the fag part..but not for being a bald faced
liar.


Is pretending I'm a homosexual really giving you a thrill? What the
**** is wrong with you?




I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be,


That'd be about your style, wouldn't it.


What are you blithering about?


You, running away from your problems and your debts.




or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.


How about you? Got that much in savings?


Way, way more than that. You really are totally without a clue,
Gunner.


Cool! *Then we really dont have anything else to chat about do we?


I guess not.


G

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:36:37 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
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On Jul 5, 5:07 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:

Did he say that? He said that this is an irresponsibly dangerous
device,

His opinion is noted. As is the likely basis for him holding it.
Either
he is a little girl mentally....or the idea of a privately owned
remote
controlled, armed gunship scares the **** out of him. Hence his
snoody
comment about it shooting the pilot in the head.

Or maybe he knows more about RC helicopters than you do.

Virtually any serious shooter..life long gun buff would have a woody
over that toy.

So why don't you build one?

Do you know that I have, or have not?

VBG


No, I don't. And I don't think I'd believe you if you said you did,
nor would I believe you if you said you didn't.

Btw..Ive about 500 hours in Rangers, Hillers and so forth.


As a passenger, as PIC, or in your dreams. What license do you hold,
and why aren't you earning a living with it? Rotary pilots are in
demand these days.


Right seat of course. Though Left Seat did tend to nap a lot. Shrug.


You should have quit while you were ahead.
The right seat in a rotary wing is where the PIC sits dummy.

JC


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On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck

wrote:

Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.

The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.

And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.

Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?

Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.

Now the house is paid off, I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be, or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.

How about you? Got that much in savings?

G

Gunner


And gunner once again dodges a question. You calim to be a published
author on the subject of firearms. Could you please direct us to one
of your publications?
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I always thought a great terrorist weapon (I shouldn't be giving them any
ideas here) would be a GPS guided model with some kind of chemical or
biological weapon. Set to fly over any outdoor event and release payload.
Model could be launched from miles away and return to be reloaded.

RogerN

Hold that thought....the time is approaching where such mischief may
actually occur.....G

Hypothetically speaking of course!

Gunner


Too late for Obama's inauguration :-)

Have you seen Obama's plane? Notice the tail number.
http://dequalss.com/wp-content/uploa...il-number3.jpg

Here's a video of a 230mph R/C plane. I figure it would be loud and have a
short range, but it would be difficult to stop without a notice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3nL...eature=related

RogerN


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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:55:34 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:


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I always thought a great terrorist weapon (I shouldn't be giving them any
ideas here) would be a GPS guided model with some kind of chemical or
biological weapon. *Set to fly over any outdoor event and release payload.
Model could be launched from miles away and return to be reloaded.


RogerN


Hold that thought....the time is approaching where such mischief may
actually occur.....G


Hypothetically speaking of course!


Gunner


Too late for Obama's inauguration :-)

Have you seen Obama's plane? *Notice the tail number.http://dequalss.com/wp-content/uploa...ir-force-1-tai...


Do you really think that's at all funny?


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on or about Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:07:12 -0700 did write/type or cause to
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Crap, back in High School I got the idea to make, as a shop class
project, an radio controlled Jet (original idea was for a functioning
scale model of a V1). That was back before all the high faluting new
fangled technology came out.
Now a days - hmmmm, scale model of an Apache?

If I make a working model of a Predator drone ....


...You'll likely be infested by an incoming squadron of black
helicopters which are life-sized, Pete.


itsokay, it'll be a one to one scale ...

I'll put an Obama "O" on the side. That way everybody will know
I'm on the right - errr "Correct" side


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RogerN wrote:

Have you seen Obama's plane? Notice the tail number.
http://dequalss.com/wp-content/uploa...il-number3.jpg



Is that the one he's flying to Russia in right now?


http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+trip+to+russia&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Results 1 - 10 of about 901,000 for obama trip to russia. (0.08
seconds)


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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:30:13 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
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On Jul 5, 9:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:29:46 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.


The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


Have you quit smoking yet?


Nope. But Im doing between 8 and 10 in a 24 hr period. Which is half or
less of what I was doing for 45 yrs.


Nice start. Still more than enough to kill you, though.g


Sure is. And one is enough to kill me if I smoke in bed, or while
reloading ammunition. Good Call!!!


Have you quit blowing men in public restrooms?


What the **** are you talking about? That's really the best you've
got?


Ill take that as a "Ive cut down but no, Ive not stopped"




And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.


Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Absolutely, positively, none of your ****ing business.


Perk! *To be followed up on for sure.!



Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Plenty of buyers for me. I have a backlog of work.


Sure you do. *Ayup.



Now the house is paid off,


A rather fully documented fantasy of yours.


Odd..Ive the title in a frame in my office. *Ok..provide cites and data.
Else you are a lying faggot. G


Oh, we've all seen the tax liens, let's not go down that road again.


And a tax lien has what to do with the money I paid to the bank and
ultimately recieved the title? Other than its green, has presidents and
funny writing on it?


We can forgive you for the fag part..but not for being a bald faced
liar.


Is pretending I'm a homosexual really giving you a thrill? What the
**** is wrong with you?


Frankly..I dont care that you are a fag. I AM however sickened by the
fact that you are a bald faced liar.




I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be,


That'd be about your style, wouldn't it.


What are you blithering about?


You, running away from your problems and your debts.


Blink blink...when? Which ones? Be specific. Feel free to use as much
whitespace as you need to back up your slander and lies.




or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.


How about you? Got that much in savings?


Way, way more than that. You really are totally without a clue,
Gunner.


Cool! *Then we really dont have anything else to chat about do we?


I guess not.


Cool. Bye!



G

Gunner


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
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On Jul 5, 9:44*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

Generally, in the aviation community, saying "I have xxx hours in yyy
aircraft" refers to time in you logbook. Loggable time would be PIC,
student, or as an FAA required crew member. You were none of the
above. As usual.


So why is there a Right Seat and controls? *


Would you please try to be less of an idiot, or are you really
incapable of serious discussion? In the right seat, you can be PIC.
You can also be an instructor, and most of that time would be logged
as PIC. You can also be a required crew member, depending on the
nature of the flight. Look it up, numbskull.

The right seat is certainly not put there so that passengers can claim
to have logged time in the aircraft.


Yes. And where did I indicate that I was a passenger claiming to be
logging time? Your slander is becoming more and more tedious.

And what does your time in "Rangers, Hillers and so forth" have to do
with radio controlled helicopters? Zero, that's what. If you think
that any real-world knowledge of full-sized aircraft operation
translates to RC models, you're sadly mistaken.


Did I claim it did? *Chuckle..dangling the hook in front of you is soooo
rewarding.
Laugh laugh laugh


You brought it up, moron.


And you took the hook, line and sinker, buffoon.


And thus, Gunner takes great pride in being the troll that he is.


Nope..I take great pride on hooking large mouthed suckers who flap their
jaws and blither away. Gotcha!!



Btw..how much rotary time in real helos do you have?


Zero, and I never claimed otherwise.


Or have you always been a toy pilot?


Nope. Between me and my brothers, we have two private pilot licenses,
two seaplane ratings, one instrument rating, one glider rating and one
glider instructor's certificate. I have spent a LOT of time around
aircraft.


So then you dont fly regular aircraft, just toys, *and envy the **** out
of *your brothers. *I take it you couldnt pass the physical or mental
exam?


Did I say which of had which licenses or ratings? No, I didn't think
so. You're a ****ing idiot.


Your failure to indicate you have a license is noted with amusement and
great contempt.

I haven't "always" been a toy pilot, but I was a founding member of
the County model airplane society which built a fully AMA sanctioned
500' paved runway and seaplane dock.


So a fancy officer in a toy aircraft organization. *


Not hardly. You'd **** if you saw some of the "toys" flying at that
field.


So they are armed and crewed, or simply armed? Or are they simply larger
toys?





I have also designed remote controlled video equipment both for toys
and for operations in hazardous environments. I can tell you with
certainty that the requirements are not even a little bit similar.


Which requirements are you referring to?


Well, for starters, there's resistance to interference, something
that's not abundant in hobby controllers. Don't get me wrong, some of
the digital controllers are very nice for controlling non-critical
devices, but not nearly fault-resistant enough to control potentially
lethal equipment.


And others are. Anyone whom might use inferior equipment to a given
task assumes all responsiblity for their actions.

Was there anything else you wished to blither about?

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
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On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck

wrote:

Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.

The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.

And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.

Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?

Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.

Now the house is paid off, I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be, or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.

How about you? Got that much in savings?

G

Gunner


And gunner once again dodges a question. You calim to be a published
author on the subject of firearms. Could you please direct us to one
of your publications?


Can you reference Handloader magazine of the mid 1980s, or Gun Tests of
the late 1970s? You will find my name in several articles. Id have to
pull out the scrap book to check the dates/volumes. I believe I
published some stuff in the mid 90s before I took the CNC job and it put
me on the road constantly.

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:14:34 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:

I always thought a great terrorist weapon (I shouldn't be giving them any
ideas here) would be a GPS guided model with some kind of chemical or
biological weapon. Set to fly over any outdoor event and release payload.
Model could be launched from miles away and return to be reloaded.

RogerN

Hold that thought....the time is approaching where such mischief may
actually occur.....G

Hypothetically speaking of course!

Gunner


Too late for Obama's inauguration :-)

Have you seen Obama's plane? Notice the tail number.
http://dequalss.com/wp-content/uploa...il-number3.jpg


OMG!!!! Absolutely astounding!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!

Here's a video of a 230mph R/C plane. I figure it would be loud and have a
short range, but it would be difficult to stop without a notice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3nL...eature=related


****!!! WIth a payload of HE (human excrement of course)....that thing
would be virtually unstoppable!!!

Aiming it would be a bit difficult too....G

Neat!!!!

Gunner


RogerN


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

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I always thought a great terrorist weapon (I shouldn't be giving them any
ideas here) would be a GPS guided model with some kind of chemical or
biological weapon. *Set to fly over any outdoor event and release payload.
Model could be launched from miles away and return to be reloaded.


RogerN


Hold that thought....the time is approaching where such mischief may
actually occur.....G


Hypothetically speaking of course!


Gunner


Too late for Obama's inauguration :-)

Have you seen Obama's plane? *Notice the tail number.http://dequalss.com/wp-content/uploa...ir-force-1-tai...


Do you really think that's at all funny?



Its hysterical!!! That many 6's in a row is always funny!!!

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

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On Jul 6, 1:40*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.


The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.


Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Now the house is paid off, I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be, or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.


How about you? Got that much in savings?


G


Gunner


And gunner once again dodges a question. You calim to be a published
author on the subject of firearms. Could you please direct us to one
of your publications?


Can you reference Handloader magazine of the mid 1980s, or *Gun Tests of
the late 1970s? *You will find my name in several articles. Id have to
pull out the scrap book to check the dates/volumes. I believe I
published some stuff in the mid 90s before I took the CNC job and it put
me on the road constantly.

Gunner


So, the useless idiot refuses to provide exact cites for his published
works. Sorry, Mr. author, "mid 1980s or late 1970s" aint gonna cut it.
You're a ****ing liar, and that's that.

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On Jul 6, 1:33*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
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wrote:
On Jul 5, 9:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:29:46 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.


The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


Have you quit smoking yet?


Nope. But Im doing between 8 and 10 in a 24 hr period. Which is half or
less of what I was doing for 45 yrs.


Nice start. Still more than enough to kill you, though.g


Sure is. And one is enough to kill me if I smoke in bed, or while
reloading ammunition. *Good Call!!!


One can only hope.



Have you quit blowing men in public restrooms?


What the **** are you talking about? That's really the best you've
got?


Ill take that as a "Ive cut down but no, Ive not stopped"





And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.


Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Absolutely, positively, none of your ****ing business.


Perk! *To be followed up on for sure.!


Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Plenty of buyers for me. I have a backlog of work.


Sure you do. *Ayup.


Now the house is paid off,


A rather fully documented fantasy of yours.


Odd..Ive the title in a frame in my office. *Ok..provide cites and data.
Else you are a lying faggot. G


Oh, we've all seen the tax liens, let's not go down that road again.


And a tax lien has what to do with the money I paid to the bank and
ultimately recieved the title? *Other than its green, has presidents and
funny writing on it?


Lien\ (l[=e]n or l[imac]"[e^]n; 277), n. [F. lien band, bond, tie, fr.
L. ligamen, fr. ligare to bind. Cf. League a union, Leam a string,
Leamer, Ligament.] (Law) A legal claim; a charge upon real or personal
property for the satisfaction of some debt or duty; a right in one to
control or hold and retain the property of another until some claim of
the former is paid or satisfied.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


Dude you can have a piece of paper that says you own the Statue of
Liberty hanging in your office. It doesn't mean you own the statue,
any more than your title means you own your house.



We can forgive you for the fag part..but not for being a bald faced
liar.


Is pretending I'm a homosexual really giving you a thrill? What the
**** is wrong with you?


Frankly..I dont care that you are a fag. I AM however sickened by the
fact that you are a bald faced liar.


Get some help, creep.



I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be,


That'd be about your style, wouldn't it.


What are you blithering about?


You, running away from your problems and your debts.


Blink blink...when? *Which ones? *Be specific. Feel free to use as much
whitespace as you need to back up your slander and lies.



So, the liens against your property have all evaporated? The
government web site is totally in error? If not, you don't own your
house free and clear, no matter what you might want to think.

You haven't file a tax return in how long?

You haven't paid medical bills of how much?

You haven't quit smoking (an obligation to your self)

You haven't paid employment taxes in how long?
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:26:17 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Jul 6, 1:40*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.


The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.


Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Now the house is paid off, I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be, or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.


How about you? Got that much in savings?


G


Gunner


And gunner once again dodges a question. You calim to be a published
author on the subject of firearms. Could you please direct us to one
of your publications?


Can you reference Handloader magazine of the mid 1980s, or *Gun Tests of
the late 1970s? *You will find my name in several articles. Id have to
pull out the scrap book to check the dates/volumes. I believe I
published some stuff in the mid 90s before I took the CNC job and it put
me on the road constantly.

Gunner


So, the useless idiot refuses to provide exact cites for his published
works. Sorry, Mr. author, "mid 1980s or late 1970s" aint gonna cut it.
You're a ****ing liar, and that's that.


Prove it. Double dog dare you.

Im curious, what were the dates you sucked your first 3 dicks?

Be specific. Day, month, year, hour and minute of your swallowing the
jizz.

Ill bet you cant do it, can you? You can only come up with vague
recollections.

Feel free to go through the magazines and tell me the dates. They were
all related to cast bullet shooting as I recall. Generally the 7mm
mausers which were coming in at that time, and the later ones were on
cast bullets in the 6.5 Swede. And I think there was one on cast loads
in the .41 Mag. Oh..and there was something published on cast bullets
in the 7.65 Argy.

Ill be waiting for you to provide the data. Im off to bed for a few
hours before I head to LA at 4am.

Ill be looking for your citations of the articles when I return Friday.

See ya, ya ****.

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:41:25 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Jul 6, 1:33*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:30:13 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:
On Jul 5, 9:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:29:46 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.


The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


Have you quit smoking yet?


Nope. But Im doing between 8 and 10 in a 24 hr period. Which is half or
less of what I was doing for 45 yrs.


Nice start. Still more than enough to kill you, though.g


Sure is. And one is enough to kill me if I smoke in bed, or while
reloading ammunition. *Good Call!!!


One can only hope.


Want to bet a million dollars it doesn happen? Put up your money in a
reputable escrow account and we will settle up in say...20 yrs?



Have you quit blowing men in public restrooms?


What the **** are you talking about? That's really the best you've
got?


Ill take that as a "Ive cut down but no, Ive not stopped"





And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.


Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Absolutely, positively, none of your ****ing business.


Perk! *To be followed up on for sure.!


Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Plenty of buyers for me. I have a backlog of work.


Sure you do. *Ayup.


Now the house is paid off,


A rather fully documented fantasy of yours.


Odd..Ive the title in a frame in my office. *Ok..provide cites and data.
Else you are a lying faggot. G


Oh, we've all seen the tax liens, let's not go down that road again.


And a tax lien has what to do with the money I paid to the bank and
ultimately recieved the title? *Other than its green, has presidents and
funny writing on it?


Lien\ (l[=e]n or l[imac]"[e^]n; 277), n. [F. lien band, bond, tie, fr.
L. ligamen, fr. ligare to bind. Cf. League a union, Leam a string,
Leamer, Ligament.] (Law) A legal claim; a charge upon real or personal
property for the satisfaction of some debt or duty; a right in one to
control or hold and retain the property of another until some claim of
the former is paid or satisfied.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


Dude you can have a piece of paper that says you own the Statue of
Liberty hanging in your office. It doesn't mean you own the statue,
any more than your title means you own your house.


Of course you are incorrect in this case. The situation is, that the
taxes must be paid when I sell it. But hey..I give you a 65% for
effort.



We can forgive you for the fag part..but not for being a bald faced
liar.


Is pretending I'm a homosexual really giving you a thrill? What the
**** is wrong with you?


Frankly..I dont care that you are a fag. I AM however sickened by the
fact that you are a bald faced liar.


Get some help, creep.


Help for what? Identifying you as a bald faced liar? Most of the
readers already know that about you. No one cares that you suck dick.
Really. Well..maybe some Leftists..Id stay away from them if I were you.



I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be,


That'd be about your style, wouldn't it.


What are you blithering about?


You, running away from your problems and your debts.


Blink blink...when? *Which ones? *Be specific. Feel free to use as much
whitespace as you need to back up your slander and lies.



So, the liens against your property have all evaporated? The
government web site is totally in error? If not, you don't own your
house free and clear, no matter what you might want to think.


I own my home. There are obligations that must be resolved if I sell it.
Notice the fine print in the various entries? Its below a certain value
and they wont pull it, just wait till I sell it and take the fees off
the top. So now you know something new! See this is fun after all!!

You haven't file a tax return in how long?


VBG

You haven't paid medical bills of how much?

VBG


You haven't quit smoking (an obligation to your self)

VBG


You haven't paid employment taxes in how long?


VBG

And was there anything else you wished to discuss, ****?

VBG

Gunner, off to bed


"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:14:28 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:

Was this on a Spektrum 6 channel radio?


No, it was a Futaba 9C.
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On Jul 6, 3:30*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:26:17 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck



wrote:
On Jul 6, 1:40*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:08*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck


wrote:


Dude, you just posted that you GROSSED $7K so far this year taking
factories apart, and spent more than a quarter million. I don't really
think you can claim to make a living doing the things you listed.


Ayup...since I had a triple bypass and a stroke to recover from..and
work in So Cal.....since the first of the year...G..its hardly
surprising that Ive only made $7k.
Particularly since Ive lost 11 clients who went out of business.


The factory stripping is $20hr. Beats sitting on my ass hoping that one
of my regular clients calls and I can charge my normal $75hr +
travel+mileage. And its been good *therapy during my recovery. Ive
regained a lot of my strength and endurance.


And have regained a lot of my sense of humor..though my tolerence for
bull**** has gotten smaller and smaller. *G Hence my replies to you
are more direct and less...polite.


Im curious though..in the next year or two, as the Greatest Depression
takes over your area..who are you going to be selling your goods to?


Not too many buyers these days..and its going to get far far worse.


Now the house is paid off, I keep a small travel trailer in So. Cal to
live out of during the week...easy to simply walk away from it if need
be, or simply tow it home and park it..and Ive still got my home shop,
machine tools, welding, carpentry etc etc...I figure I can eek out a
dollar here or there after the collapse. *Or simply sit on the porch and
play the banjo for the next 2-5 yrs.


How about you? Got that much in savings?


G


Gunner


And gunner once again dodges a question. You calim to be a published
author on the subject of firearms. Could you please direct us to one
of your publications?


Can you reference Handloader magazine of the mid 1980s, or *Gun Tests of
the late 1970s? *You will find my name in several articles. Id have to
pull out the scrap book to check the dates/volumes. I believe I
published some stuff in the mid 90s before I took the CNC job and it put
me on the road constantly.


Gunner


So, the useless idiot refuses to provide exact cites for his published
works. Sorry, Mr. author, "mid 1980s or late 1970s" aint gonna cut it.
You're a ****ing liar, and that's that.


Prove it. *Double dog dare you.

Im curious, what were the dates you sucked your first 3 dicks?

Be specific. Day, month, year, hour and minute of your swallowing the
jizz.

Ill bet you cant do it, can you? *You can only come up with vague
recollections.

Feel free to go through the magazines and tell me the dates. *They were
all related to cast bullet shooting as I recall. Generally the 7mm
mausers which were coming in at that time, and the later ones were on
cast bullets in the 6.5 Swede. *And I think there was one on cast loads
in the .41 Mag. *Oh..and there was something published on cast bullets
in the 7.65 Argy.

Ill be waiting for you to provide the data. Im off to bed for a few
hours before I head to LA at 4am.

Ill be looking for your citations of the articles when I return Friday.

See ya, ya ****.

Gunner


And the biggest blowhard on usenet, after incorrectly accusing me of
slander (does he even know what the word means?) makes libelous
statements about me.

I'm both amused, annoyed, and closer to speaking with a lawyer,

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On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:44:56 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
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someone wrote:
Here's a video of a 230mph R/C plane. I figure it would be loud and have a
short range, but it would be difficult to stop without a notice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3nL...eature=related


****!!! WIth a payload of HE (human excrement of course)....that thing
would be virtually unstoppable!!!


I'll bet the PTBs are crappin' their pants over this technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=766N1...eature=related
This one might be easier to find with radar, but coming in at shoulder
level and 450kph, it would be damned hard to knock down, wot?


Aiming it would be a bit difficult too....G


Yeah, especially with a video feed from the cockpit, or some borrowed
laser-guided tech kit.


Neat!!!!


Amen!

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to expressing the inexpressible is music.
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:35:19 -0400, the infamous "Buerste"
scrawled the following:

I really don't NEED anything, just have the urge to stock up for
some reason. I do 9mm, .45, .38/.357 and I might get into .40.


"for some reason". Uh, huh. You feel it, too, don't you? The largest
quantity of fecal material known to man seems to be readying itself to
hit the rotary occillating device and you mention a tiny urge. Sheesh!

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to expressing the inexpressible is music.
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I'm hoping I will soon move the plant out here in farm land. The cops
station themselves by the freeway exits and scrutinize everybody getting off
then follow anybody "questionable". (no, I'm not followed!)




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Buerste wrote:
"Stuart Wheaton" wrote in message
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:41:55 +0200, Robert Roland
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:52:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

In my opinion, this guy is an irresponsible idiot. It would almost
be
funny if the helicopter turned around and shot its pilot in the
head.
So you dont like guns eh?
I am quite indifferent. I don't know much about them, but I do know
how dangerous they are.
So how dangerous are they, really?
I do, however, know a bit about remote controlled helicopters. I have
flown them for nearly 20 years, so I have seen and experienced many
ways in which they can go wrong. I believe this gives me enough
background to decide whether or not it is a good idea to strap a
firearm to one.
So while you know much about helicopters (toys)...your ignorance..self
admitted of firearms leads you to believe that this is a Bad Thing?
Sorry to hear that.
Why sorry? I have met lots of people who have no interest in neither
helicopters nor metalworking, but I have never felt sorry in any way
about that. They have their interests, and I have mine. That's just
the way it should be.

And if those same people stated that Lathes are so dangerous that they
should suck in their operators....you would be fine with that.?

I know you love to play the troll, and you see guns and can't get past
that, but the guy is saying that the RC helicopter is not a reliable or
stable enough platform to make him comfortable placing a firearm upon
it. Unless you spend serious bucks, this same prohibition applies to RC
and pyrotechnics. It isn't the gun that is dangerous, it is placing the
gun on a platform that has potential for random operations, including
random firing.


I could prevent any random firing for less than $20



Would you fly that $20 safety system at a field lined with fetuses? ( I
choose fetuses because you seem to value them above all other living
things)


In a fetal heartbeat! Don't forget, I design and build stuff for a
living...and it actually works!


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Let the Record show that Gunner Asch on
or about Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:37:48 -0700 did write/type or cause to
appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Jul 5, 9:44*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

Generally, in the aviation community, saying "I have xxx hours in yyy
aircraft" refers to time in you logbook. Loggable time would be PIC,
student, or as an FAA required crew member. You were none of the
above. As usual.

So why is there a Right Seat and controls? *


Would you please try to be less of an idiot, or are you really
incapable of serious discussion? In the right seat, you can be PIC.
You can also be an instructor, and most of that time would be logged
as PIC. You can also be a required crew member, depending on the
nature of the flight. Look it up, numbskull.

The right seat is certainly not put there so that passengers can claim
to have logged time in the aircraft.


Yes. And where did I indicate that I was a passenger claiming to be
logging time? Your slander is becoming more and more tedious.


Heck, I've got about a half hour in the right hand seat of a
C-141. But like I used to say of my military time: "Eighteen years
with Uncle Sam's Flying Club, none of which counts for pay or
promotion."


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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:44:56 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
scrawled the following:

someone wrote:
Here's a video of a 230mph R/C plane. I figure it would be loud and have
a
short range, but it would be difficult to stop without a notice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3nL...eature=related


****!!! WIth a payload of HE (human excrement of course)....that thing
would be virtually unstoppable!!!


I'll bet the PTBs are crappin' their pants over this technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=766N1...eature=related
This one might be easier to find with radar, but coming in at shoulder
level and 450kph, it would be damned hard to knock down, wot?


Aiming it would be a bit difficult too....G


Yeah, especially with a video feed from the cockpit, or some borrowed
laser-guided tech kit.


Neat!!!!


Amen!

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After silence, that which comes nearest
to expressing the inexpressible is music.
-- Aldous Huxley


Here's a video of a plane with a camera view. If this is the plane I'm
thinking of, they are about $190 ready to fly, just charge batteries.
That's without the video equipment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ZXnoKbxx8

This is similar to what I'm wanting to do with a model vehicle (car/tank)
and a low powered gun of some sort (BB gun or ?, the idea is to not kill
myself if it does have some sort of misfire.)

RogerN



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