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hello!

i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?

thanks!


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hello!

i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?


On the wee small possibility that you're not an out-of-school troll,
you'll need an oxy/acetyline torch setup and some brazing rod, plus
various holders, flux, brushes, and cleaners.

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Must you WELD them together? There are many "silver solders" that melt
well below the melting point of most brasses. They can produce pretty
strong joints. If the parts weigh only a few ounces, you might get away
with a propane bottle torch (hardware store variety) and some low temp
silver solder. You will, of course need flux and a way to clean the
surfaces to be joined very well.
You should google "silver soldering" and look around. You will find
plenty of info.

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i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?

thanks!


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Big questions - strength and color... What is it used for ?

Silver solder is strong but often silver or copper/silver.

Might try plummer phosphor/Bronze which is auto fluxing and propane or
a little hotter would do small items.

You would likely need propane/oxygen for professional grade brazing rod.
The plumbing stuff can be had at hardware stores -- used on air conditioning.

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Must you WELD them together? There are many "silver solders" that melt
well below the melting point of most brasses. They can produce pretty
strong joints. If the parts weigh only a few ounces, you might get away
with a propane bottle torch (hardware store variety) and some low temp
silver solder. You will, of course need flux and a way to clean the
surfaces to be joined very well.
You should google "silver soldering" and look around. You will find
plenty of info.

Pete Stanaitis
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hello!

i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?

thanks!



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Must you WELD them together? There are many "silver solders" that melt
well below the melting point of most brasses. They can produce pretty
strong joints. If the parts weigh only a few ounces, you might get away
with a propane bottle torch (hardware store variety) and some low temp
silver solder. You will, of course need flux and a way to clean the
surfaces to be joined very well.
You should google "silver soldering" and look around. You will find
plenty of info.


Ok thanks, I'll look that up! no need for actuall welding... i am working on
some steampunk
models, so i will need some method to join some pieces together..

thank you all for your answers!




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On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:55:14 +0200, with neither quill nor qualm,
"chip9munk" quickly quoth:

hello!

i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?


For small pieces, you can use a soldering iron. Look for a high wattage
iron of the type used for stained glass work.

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On Jun 16, 4:08 am, "chip9munk" wrote:
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Must you WELD them together? There are many "silver solders" that melt
well below the melting point of most brasses. They can produce pretty
strong joints. If the parts weigh only a few ounces, you might get away
with a propane bottle torch (hardware store variety) and some low temp
silver solder. You will, of course need flux and a way to clean the
surfaces to be joined very well.
You should google "silver soldering" and look around. You will find
plenty of info.


Ok thanks, I'll look that up! no need for actuall welding... i am working on
some steampunk
models, so i will need some method to join some pieces together..

thank you all for your answers!


Oh good lord the steampunkers have found RCM, you guys thought the
spammers were bad ...


Hey, what're you making?
My personal favorite so far is the victorian monitor/pc case with the
old-typewriter keyboard.

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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:55:14 +0200, with neither quill nor qualm,
"chip9munk" quickly quoth:

hello!

i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?


For small pieces, you can use a soldering iron. Look for a high wattage
iron of the type used for stained glass work.


is the link then strong enough... i want it to last... and not to brake as
soon as it is touched..


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Hey, what're you making?
My personal favorite so far is the victorian monitor/pc case with the
old-typewriter keyboard.


i am new to it so i am still collecting materials... i made an
old-typewriter keyboard
for practice... now i want to buy all the neccesary tools to make what ever
comes to mind...

if you are interested... check this guy out http://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/



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chip9munk wrote:
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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:55:14 +0200, with neither quill nor qualm,
"chip9munk" quickly quoth:

hello!

i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?

For small pieces, you can use a soldering iron. Look for a high wattage
iron of the type used for stained glass work.


is the link then strong enough... i want it to last... and not to brake as
soon as it is touched..


The word is "break" I'd normally not be
so pedantic except that when I see the word
"brake", my mind takes a totally different
path than it should...

Back to the question. Use "hard" solder
and acid flux. Clean all the flux real
good after you're done.

You should not use the solder joint to transmit
force. It should only be used to stick the
parts together. Use a pin or screw or bends
in the metal to lock them together then solder.



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On Jun 18, 3:31 pm, "chip9munk" wrote:
Hey, what're you making?
My personal favorite so far is the victorian monitor/pc case with the
old-typewriter keyboard.


i am new to it so i am still collecting materials... i made an
old-typewriter keyboard
for practice... now i want to buy all the neccesary tools to make what ever
comes to mind...

if you are interested... check this guy outhttp://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/



Very cool. Not sure how many of the guys here have heard of
'steampunk', but if they look they'll appreciate the metalwork in that
one.

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The word is "break" I'd normally not be
so pedantic except that when I see the word
"brake", my mind takes a totally different
path than it should...


ups, sorry!

Back to the question. Use "hard" solder
and acid flux. Clean all the flux real
good after you're done.

You should not use the solder joint to transmit
force. It should only be used to stick the
parts together. Use a pin or screw or bends
in the metal to lock them together then solder.


ok, thanks!!


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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:43:51 -0700, Jim Stewart
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chip9munk wrote:
"Jedd Haas" wrote in message
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In article ,
Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:55:14 +0200, with neither quill nor qualm,
"chip9munk" quickly quoth:

hello!

i am new to metalworking so i have a question...
what do i need to weld small brass pieces?
For small pieces, you can use a soldering iron. Look for a high wattage
iron of the type used for stained glass work.


is the link then strong enough... i want it to last... and not to brake as
soon as it is touched..


The word is "break" I'd normally not be
so pedantic except that when I see the word
"brake", my mind takes a totally different
path than it should...

Back to the question. Use "hard" solder
and acid flux. Clean all the flux real
good after you're done.


The words are "really well". Congratulations though on knowing how to
spell "you're".
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