"Hawke" wrote in message
...

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

snip


And I'd like to see how he would do after 35 years with Type 1 diabetes.
Statistically, I should be blind, crippled, and probably dead. Five
stents
and a mild heart attack is getting off easy.

It's all the good living. d8-)


Didn't I say you should be thankful for the advancements of modern
medicine?
Boy, it sounds like you really made out. If you were born twenty or thirty
years earlier you would have had one short life. You're lucky! But I still
think baseball had something to do with your problems.

Pfffft. Baseball probably keeps my endorphin level up -- especially today,
because the Yankees have won five in a row and the Red Sox just got swept in
three games by Oakland. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Hawke" wrote in message
...

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite,
the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then,
for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go
right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the
second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were
countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20%
thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and,
I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good
oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a
nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to
the
60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than
sorry
once you're past 50.

It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll
chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a
large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy
coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising,
avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted
a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you
will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better
bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke

Well, gee thanks, Hawke. Drinking too much coffee is the only part of
your
list that applied to me. In any case, many apparently healthy men suffer
heart attacks, even men who have followed "heart healthy" diet guidelines
and don't smoke, etc..

That may be true but I was talking about people who due to unhealthy
lifestyles doomed themselves to rather short lives. By now we all know
what
an unhealthy diet is and what living healthy is about. At least we should.
On the other hand, has anyone seen the show You are What You Eat? If you
haven't you should. The people on the show are clueless about what is a
bad
diet and how to live a healthy life. Consequently, they look like **** and
are eating themselves into an early grave. I suspect that while some of
you
guys have the "bad gene" or some other unfortunate problem that causes
health problems most of your health problems are lifestyle realated. Don't
you hate hearing that after years any years of letting yourself go?
Believe
me though, I know what I'm talking about. A few years ago I weighed almost
300 lbs. Since then I've been getting back into shape and now workout six
days a week and I'm still not at my ideal weight yet. But at least I'm on
the way. I suggest the rest of you guys start a health regimen before it's
too late.

Hawke

If you weighed 300 lb., unless you were built like a NFL tackle, your
inter-abdominal adiposity took its toll on your metabolic system for as long
as you were in that state. Getting your weight down now will be a great
help, but letting yourself get there in the first place probably did more
damage than you may think.

BTW, with my unhealthy lifestyle my weight is 148. The most I ever weighed
was 160. My total cholesterol is 81. LDL is 47. That was on May 9th. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

On Sun, 25 May 2008 16:06:01 -0700, "Hawke"
wrote:


Well, gee thanks, Hawke. Drinking too much coffee is the only part of your
list that applied to me. In any case, many apparently healthy men suffer
heart attacks, even men who have followed "heart healthy" diet guidelines
and don't smoke, etc..

That may be true but I was talking about people who due to unhealthy
lifestyles doomed themselves to rather short lives. By now we all know what
an unhealthy diet is and what living healthy is about. At least we should.
On the other hand, has anyone seen the show You are What You Eat? If you
haven't you should. The people on the show are clueless about what is a bad
diet and how to live a healthy life. Consequently, they look like **** and
are eating themselves into an early grave. I suspect that while some of you
guys have the "bad gene" or some other unfortunate problem that causes
health problems most of your health problems are lifestyle realated. Don't
you hate hearing that after years any years of letting yourself go? Believe
me though, I know what I'm talking about. A few years ago I weighed almost
300 lbs. Since then I've been getting back into shape and now workout six
days a week and I'm still not at my ideal weight yet. But at least I'm on
the way. I suggest the rest of you guys start a health regimen before it's
too late.

Hawke

Ah, the superiority of the converted evangelist or other zeolot!

I did smoke, and that was undeniably a health negative for me. Beyond
that, I was found to be "healthy" and "very strong". After reviewing
my bloodwork and an interview, the cardiologist said I need no
lifestyle changes other than the one I'd already made -- discontinue
all use of tobacco immediately and permanently.

On Sun, 25 May 2008 22:05:07 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:37:54 -0700, the renowned "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

"Don Foreman" wrote:
I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

I'm glad you're still here, Don.

Jon


Definitely! Take it easy Don. As long as the old brain is hitting on
all cylinders, it's good.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Thanks! I'm actually curious to see if improved oxygen (due to better
coronary function and not smoking) might even tune up the old noggin a
bit.

That'll be once I can stay awake long enough to tackle a significant
problem ... G

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 May 2008 22:05:07 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:37:54 -0700, the renowned "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

"Don Foreman" wrote:
I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

I'm glad you're still here, Don.

Jon


Definitely! Take it easy Don. As long as the old brain is hitting on
all cylinders, it's good.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Thanks! I'm actually curious to see if improved oxygen (due to better
coronary function and not smoking) might even tune up the old noggin a
bit.

That'll be once I can stay awake long enough to tackle a significant
problem ... G
Don: Back a few years, I had just returned from a dive trip to the Yucatan
peninisula and had been hiking @ 11,000' in the Sierras with a 65# pack and
was in the process of doing my normal 3 mile run prior to going to work. I
had what felt like a minor lung congestion and would cough and sometimes it
would go away and my run would continue. The minor "lung" congestion
continued, only when I ran, so I visited a doc. thinking that maybe I picked
up and unwanted hitch hiker in the Yucatan, and thru some tests found to
have some plugged arteries. Voila angioplasty and 15 years of scuba diving
and having a bunch of fun later, while doing the annual stress tests
required to keep my private pilot's license, the arteries were found to be
plugging up again. Still zero symptoms. Triple by-pass and a month later,
back on my feet chasing a strange Emu that wandered thru the yard. Annual
stress test done again and I'm flying again with the FAA approved 3rd class
medical. At no time could I say that I felt physically better as the result
of the procedures. Psychologically? A different story. It is nice
knowing that the tubes are clear and working.
Good luck with yours.

Stu Fields

On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:24:11 -0500, Don Foreman
wrote:

snip
I'm actually curious to see if improved oxygen (due to better
coronary function and not smoking) might even tune up the old noggin a
bit.

That'll be once I can stay awake long enough to tackle a significant
problem ... G

Snort! spoken like a true engineer ;-)

Best of luck Don, besides you can't leave this newsgroup
yet, we aren't done asking you questions.

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email

"Hawke" wrote in message
...

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite,
the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then,
for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go
right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the
second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were
countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20%
thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and,
I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good
oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a
nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to
the
60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than
sorry
once you're past 50.

It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll
chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a
large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy
coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising,
avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted
a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you
will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better
bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke

Well, gee thanks, Hawke. Drinking too much coffee is the only part of
your
list that applied to me. In any case, many apparently healthy men suffer
heart attacks, even men who have followed "heart healthy" diet guidelines
and don't smoke, etc..

That may be true but I was talking about people who due to unhealthy
lifestyles doomed themselves to rather short lives. By now we all know
what
an unhealthy diet is and what living healthy is about. At least we should.
On the other hand, has anyone seen the show You are What You Eat? If you
haven't you should. The people on the show are clueless about what is a
bad
diet and how to live a healthy life. Consequently, they look like **** and
are eating themselves into an early grave. I suspect that while some of
you
guys have the "bad gene" or some other unfortunate problem that causes
health problems most of your health problems are lifestyle realated. Don't
you hate hearing that after years any years of letting yourself go?
Believe
me though, I know what I'm talking about. A few years ago I weighed almost
300 lbs. )snip
Hawke

I think I saw you in a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qlGxNUuOPM

Well, gee thanks, Hawke. Drinking too much coffee is the only part of
your
list that applied to me. In any case, many apparently healthy men
suffer
heart attacks, even men who have followed "heart healthy" diet
guidelines
and don't smoke, etc..

That may be true but I was talking about people who due to unhealthy
lifestyles doomed themselves to rather short lives. By now we all know
what
an unhealthy diet is and what living healthy is about. At least we
should.
On the other hand, has anyone seen the show You are What You Eat? If you
haven't you should. The people on the show are clueless about what is a
bad
diet and how to live a healthy life. Consequently, they look like ****
and
are eating themselves into an early grave. I suspect that while some of
you
guys have the "bad gene" or some other unfortunate problem that causes
health problems most of your health problems are lifestyle realated.
Don't
you hate hearing that after years any years of letting yourself go?
Believe
me though, I know what I'm talking about. A few years ago I weighed
almost
300 lbs. Since then I've been getting back into shape and now workout
six
days a week and I'm still not at my ideal weight yet. But at least I'm
on
the way. I suggest the rest of you guys start a health regimen before
it's
too late.

Hawke

If you weighed 300 lb., unless you were built like a NFL tackle, your
inter-abdominal adiposity took its toll on your metabolic system for as
long
as you were in that state. Getting your weight down now will be a great
help, but letting yourself get there in the first place probably did more
damage than you may think.

BTW, with my unhealthy lifestyle my weight is 148. The most I ever weighed
was 160. My total cholesterol is 81. LDL is 47. That was on May 9th. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


Actually, I am built like a NFL lineman but I'm working to get down to the
linebacker level. I estimate that my ideal weight is somewhere around 240,
maybe a few pounds less. I'm just about 6'2" tall and have been lifting
weights pretty seriously for over 20 years. What happened to me was that I
came down with a chronic illness and had my back go out at the same time. I
was a professional tennis instructor at the time. I went from a 6 day a week
exerciser to zero. At the time I weighed right around 240 and was in great
shape. That was when I was 41. I've been on the comeback road for the last
several years and I'm hoping that I can hit my goal by the end of the year.
As to damage done, one never knows. But my Dad is 84 and my Mom is 80 so I
think I have good genes. Only time will tell but like I said I know what I'm
talking about when it comes to unhealthy lifestyles. I'm a paragon of virtue
now. No smoking, no drinking, daily workouts, low salt diet, you name it,
I'm doing it. It's been a long hard road back that's for sure. At 57 it's a
lot harder to make yourself get up and exercise every day, but I still do
it. That's why I said that people have to change their lifestyle. It's clear
that a lot of people haven't or else are just plain unlucky. Either way I
have to say I was surprised at how many guys have had serious heart related
problems. It does show you though that it's not an accident why guys like
Jack Lalane live to be so old and most men don't.

Hawke

On Sun, 25 May 2008 09:18:30 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:



And I'd like to see how he would do after 35 years with Type 1 diabetes.
Statistically, I should be blind, crippled, and probably dead. Five stents
and a mild heart attack is getting off easy.

It's all the good living. d8-)


43 years of type 1 and counting. Had the first warning/blind panic/angina a
year ago. Would really like to last long enough to use some of my bloody
expensive pension investment...


Mark Rand
RTFM

And I'd like to see how he would do after 35 years with Type 1
diabetes.
Statistically, I should be blind, crippled, and probably dead. Five
stents
and a mild heart attack is getting off easy.

It's all the good living. d8-)


Didn't I say you should be thankful for the advancements of modern
medicine?
Boy, it sounds like you really made out. If you were born twenty or
thirty
years earlier you would have had one short life. You're lucky! But I
still
think baseball had something to do with your problems.

Pfffft. Baseball probably keeps my endorphin level up -- especially today,
because the Yankees have won five in a row and the Red Sox just got swept
in
three games by Oakland. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

If baseball raises you're endorphins you must be one phlegmatic guy.

Hawke