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[email protected] April 21st 08 01:41 AM

Tungsten Grinding
 
I don't have a bench grinder but i do have an angle grinder to sharpen
thoriated tungsten electrodes.

I'm having problems with the arc it seems to create bright pulsing
flashes making it very difficult for me to see the arc and weld
puddle.

is this caused by a contaminated tungsten electrode?
OR
is that what happens when the tungsten electrode is contaminated with
other metal bits from the grinding stone?

perhaps my angle grinder isn't clean enough and contains some steel/
aluminum bits which contaminated the electrode.

Jon Elson[_2_] April 21st 08 06:15 PM

Tungsten Grinding
 


wrote:
I don't have a bench grinder but i do have an angle grinder to sharpen
thoriated tungsten electrodes.

I'm having problems with the arc it seems to create bright pulsing
flashes making it very difficult for me to see the arc and weld
puddle.

is this caused by a contaminated tungsten electrode?
OR
is that what happens when the tungsten electrode is contaminated with
other metal bits from the grinding stone?

perhaps my angle grinder isn't clean enough and contains some steel/
aluminum bits which contaminated the electrode.


Yes, you should use a special grinder (or at least the wheel) for
grinding the tungstens.

A trick I use is to hold the torch such that the cup shields my eyes
from the brightest part of the arc, usually right at the tip of the
electrode. Then, the arc lights up the work and I can usually see the
puddle quite nicely. I usually do sort of micro-welding and get right
up there with my nose inches from the arc.

Jon


Gunner Asch[_4_] April 21st 08 08:21 PM

Tungsten Grinding
 
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:15:35 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:



wrote:
I don't have a bench grinder but i do have an angle grinder to sharpen
thoriated tungsten electrodes.

I'm having problems with the arc it seems to create bright pulsing
flashes making it very difficult for me to see the arc and weld
puddle.

is this caused by a contaminated tungsten electrode?
OR
is that what happens when the tungsten electrode is contaminated with
other metal bits from the grinding stone?

perhaps my angle grinder isn't clean enough and contains some steel/
aluminum bits which contaminated the electrode.


Yes, you should use a special grinder (or at least the wheel) for
grinding the tungstens.

A trick I use is to hold the torch such that the cup shields my eyes
from the brightest part of the arc, usually right at the tip of the
electrode. Then, the arc lights up the work and I can usually see the
puddle quite nicely. I usually do sort of micro-welding and get right
up there with my nose inches from the arc.

Jon



A very cheap 6" grinder from Harbor Freight etc etc is probably the
way the OP wants to go. Set on top of the welder, with the cord
plugged into the 110vt output plug, its very handy and wont be used
for anything else. And the wheels are "good enough"

A grinder (old Souix) lives on the top of my big Airco Squarewave 300
for just such a reason. I still use it far far too much...damnit.

I buy and sell welders on occasion, and build carts and table tops to
put on nearly all of them, and make sure there is a place for a small
cabinet for consumables, and a place for a grinder everytime. Shrug,
works for me..your mileage may vary.

Oh..if you put it on the metal top of the welding machine..a piece of
carpet under the grinder, fuzzy side down, keeps the entire machine
from vibrating from the grinder

Gunner, who just got a Lincoln Squarewave 300 this weekend. And all
the factory schematics and receipts for all new boards. And the pedal.
No torch though...sigh



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William Bagwell April 22nd 08 12:51 AM

Tungsten Grinding
 
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:41:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I don't have a bench grinder but i do have an angle grinder to sharpen
thoriated tungsten electrodes.

I'm having problems with the arc it seems to create bright pulsing
flashes making it very difficult for me to see the arc and weld
puddle.


Possibly way off base here... Are you doing relatively low amperage with
a cheep auto-dark? Only time I have seen what you are describing was
from this. My solution was to switch its sensitivity from low to high.
Solved the flashes, but sometimes the overhead lights (metal halide) set
it off when I'm not actually welding.
--
William

[email protected] April 22nd 08 02:04 AM

Tungsten Grinding
 
well, i do prefer watching the arc and the puddle since i have a eye
protection anyway. but the flashes are just too bright even when
wearing dark lenses.

maybe the there's some steel bits on my tungsten which then got
vaporized and lit.... i dunno if that's what happens when steel
vaporizes.

i guess i'll just have to try to use a "clean" and dedicated grinding
stone for my tungsten electrodes then see if that still happens.







On Apr 22, 1:15 am, Jon Elson wrote:
wrote:
I don't have a bench grinder but i do have an angle grinder to sharpen
thoriated tungsten electrodes.


I'm having problems with the arc it seems to create bright pulsing
flashes making it very difficult for me to see the arc and weld
puddle.


is this caused by a contaminated tungsten electrode?
OR
is that what happens when the tungsten electrode is contaminated with
other metal bits from the grinding stone?


perhaps my angle grinder isn't clean enough and contains some steel/
aluminum bits which contaminated the electrode.


Yes, you should use a special grinder (or at least the wheel) for
grinding the tungstens.

A trick I use is to hold the torch such that the cup shields my eyes
from the brightest part of the arc, usually right at the tip of the
electrode. Then, the arc lights up the work and I can usually see the
puddle quite nicely. I usually do sort of micro-welding and get right
up there with my nose inches from the arc.

Jon




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