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Wind fencing
I live where it gets very windy sometimes. I am looking for ways to break
the wind, and to create air movement up and over some areas. I've been reading all sorts of things, and gathering information on principles, basics, and design. Has anyone ever build any wind deflection fencing or structures, and how did it work out? And for carport structures, and lean to attached sun shades made of corrugated metal, what can you do to reduce lift on a 300-400 square foot structure? Break it into two surfaces on the horizontal plane, one a foot higher than the other to provide a high pressure relief area? I'm going to make this with three 1800# column support concrete piers, but the wind where I live gets bodacious at times, and I'd like to overbuild just for peace of mind. Thanks in advance. Steve |
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On Mar 28, 8:51 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
I live where it gets very windy sometimes. I am looking for ways to break the wind, and to create air movement up and over some areas. I've been reading all sorts of things, and gathering information on principles, basics, and design. Has anyone ever build any wind deflection fencing or structures, and how did it work out? And for carport structures, and lean to attached sun shades made of corrugated metal, what can you do to reduce lift on a 300-400 square foot structure? Break it into two surfaces on the horizontal plane, one a foot higher than the other to provide a high pressure relief area? I'm going to make this with three 1800# column support concrete piers, but the wind where I live gets bodacious at times, and I'd like to overbuild just for peace of mind. Thanks in advance. Steve What about trees? Takes a while though. Karl |
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On Mar 29, 2:51*am, "SteveB" wrote:
I live where it gets very windy sometimes. *I am looking for ways to break the wind, and to create air movement up and over some areas. *I've been reading all sorts of things, and gathering information on principles, basics, and design. Has anyone ever build any wind deflection fencing or structures, and how did it work out? And for carport structures, and lean to attached sun shades made of corrugated metal, what can you do to reduce lift on a 300-400 square foot structure? *Break it into two surfaces on the horizontal plane, one a foot higher than the other to provide a high pressure relief area? I'm going to make this with three 1800# column support concrete piers, but the wind where I live gets bodacious at times, and I'd like to overbuild just for peace of mind. Thanks in advance. Steve New England isn't generally very windy though we do get line squalls and hurricanes. I use corrugated sheet metal for wood shed roofs, each panel attached by one screw at the corners. These are carport-type structures with 6"-8" tree trunks for the columns and beams. The roof purlins are 2x3's or 2x4's 24" or less apart and so far they've held up to several years of wind storms and a 100-year-record snowy winter. The wind load isn't bad if the roof is nearly flat and doesn't overhang the walls much on the upwind side. The sides are covered by tarps which don't blow around as long as the shed is full, but they will rip right off an empty shed. Jim Wilkins |
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:51:14 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote: I live where it gets very windy sometimes. I am looking for ways to break the wind, and to create air movement up and over some areas. I've been reading all sorts of things, and gathering information on principles, basics, and design. Has anyone ever build any wind deflection fencing or structures, and how did it work out? East slope continental divide=high wind 100++mph common in some area,. 45- 65mph very common this time of year. Plant a shelter belt, several rows are best with a mix of species. At least one conifer row. Drip irrigation a must, NRCS has a good program.. Dont build on a hill top, ala David Letterman unless you like lots of wind to match the view. Tall wind fences are common on ranches .75 space between boards 12-15ft height. Use heavy material, old telephone poles and planks. Only need two sides N-S &E-W open to SE Worth their weight in gold at times. Seen em made with stacked tires 20ft+ tall 1/2 mile long.lace stacked and zig zagged for strength. Big tires are great. Fill with earth. These are mostly for livestock shelter. High stacks of hay bales work very well and are used all the time. Buy property with bottom ground with lots of tall trees.. Don't build too close to big tree :-) ED And for carport structures, and lean to attached sun shades made of corrugated metal, what can you do to reduce lift on a 300-400 square foot structure? Break it into two surfaces on the horizontal plane, one a foot higher than the other to provide a high pressure relief area? I'm going to make this with three 1800# column support concrete piers, but the wind where I live gets bodacious at times, and I'd like to overbuild just for peace of mind. Thanks in advance. Steve |
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:16:56 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
wrote: New England isn't generally very windy though we do get line squalls and hurricanes. Though there are places here that do get a bit of wind... http://www.nostalgiaville.com/travel...ham/gor124.jpg The world record 231 MPH gust was clocked on the roof of that building on the summit of Mt. Washington in 1934. -- Ned Simmons |
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"Ned Simmons" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:16:56 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins wrote: New England isn't generally very windy though we do get line squalls and hurricanes. Though there are places here that do get a bit of wind... http://www.nostalgiaville.com/travel...ham/gor124.jpg The world record 231 MPH gust was clocked on the roof of that building on the summit of Mt. Washington in 1934. Ah, yes, I remember it well. d8-) Even the lichens have trouble sticking to the rocks up there. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mar 29, 11:08*am, Ned Simmons wrote:
... The world record 231 MPH gust was clocked on the roof of that building on the summit of Mt. Washington in 1934. Ned Simmons 231 when the instrument blew away, and the wind kept rising. The operator guessed around 280 max. |
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Poplar trees grow pretty fast, and do well grouped in a row of they will
grow in your climate. For something quicker, a chain link fence with slats in the chain link is cheap strong and easy. be sure to use longer poles and a bit more concrete. To improve the aesthetics you can plant something that will climb and create a solid green wall. As for structures, look to the building codes in the really windy places for guidance. As I understand the principles, you need to make connections that rely on mechanical fastening more than gravity so that when you get lift, you have enough resistance to overcome the force. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "SteveB" wrote in message news I live where it gets very windy sometimes. I am looking for ways to break the wind, and to create air movement up and over some areas. I've been reading all sorts of things, and gathering information on principles, basics, and design. Has anyone ever build any wind deflection fencing or structures, and how did it work out? And for carport structures, and lean to attached sun shades made of corrugated metal, what can you do to reduce lift on a 300-400 square foot structure? Break it into two surfaces on the horizontal plane, one a foot higher than the other to provide a high pressure relief area? I'm going to make this with three 1800# column support concrete piers, but the wind where I live gets bodacious at times, and I'd like to overbuild just for peace of mind. Thanks in advance. Steve |
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