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If corrosion's the problem, get a new one. If you have a puncture or a crack
use "Nocorode" paste flux and 50/50 or there abouts. Clean is the key to a good
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I soldered the radiator for an old Dodge and it held for the 5 years
that I kept the vehicle. It had a couple of broken tubes in the
radiator, so I peeled them out of the tanks on the top and bottom, then
scrubbed the tank surfaces bright and shiny with sandpaper and a small
wire brush. I fluxed it with some ancient paste flux and soldered a
brass patch over the empty holes in the two tanks. I think I used my O/A
rig with a 00 or a 000 tip to get a small flame with enough heat to do
it quickly. Quick is important so that you don't unsolder adjacent
tubes. It's been 30 years since I did it, but I remember it went pretty
well.

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Hard solder - aka - silver solder. It is the only way. Braze.

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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: Hard solder - aka - silver solder. It is the
only way. Braze.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You usually know things that I don't know, so please tell me. How are you
going to silver solder a radiator that is assembled with soft solder?




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If corrosion's the problem, get a new one. If you have a puncture or a crack
use "Nocorode" paste flux and 50/50 or there abouts. Clean is the key to a good
job.

Ive had good luck using the small wire brush that comes with the
Dremel tools, for cleaning up the area around a leak in a radiator
prior to soldering up the hole.

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If corrosion's the problem, get a new one. If you have a puncture or a
crack
use "Nocorode" paste flux and 50/50 or there abouts. Clean is the key to a
good
job.

Ive had good luck using the small wire brush that comes with the
Dremel tools, for cleaning up the area around a leak in a radiator
prior to soldering up the hole.

Gunner


I've had good luck slapping on epoxy, hasn't leaked in years. Lost a
couple of tubes on my tractor but it still cools the engine

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Surely you jest !



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unless you need a large roll, get a radiator shop to sell you a few yards of
solder and bring a bottle for a pint of organic flux. I prefer 70/30, but
many types are available. The Eutectic (longer heat range between liquid and
re-solidified ) solder used for rads is much better than the crap for
plumbing sold at your local hardware store.
http://www.alchemycastings.com/lead-products/solder.htm
I used to build new replacement radiators for rare cars, and repair some.
New stuff is much easier.The metal has to be absolutely clean and bright for
the joint to hold and the solder to flow.
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:29:48 -0700, Stupendous Man wrote:

unless you need a large roll, get a radiator shop to sell you a few yards of
solder and bring a bottle for a pint of organic flux. I prefer 70/30, but
many types are available. The Eutectic (longer heat range between liquid and
re-solidified )


No.

Eutectic melts at one temperature (361); below that it is solid, above
fully liquid. Other ratios have a "pasty" stage in between that and the
temperature at which they are fully liquid.


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No, No, that's belief, knowledge is totally something else.

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You don't drop the whole radiator into a tank!

It is a spot treatment. Where the hole is.

This was taught to me by a Master Mechanic who had NASCAR grade background.

Consider what happened to me :

Driving my Blazer down the highway at 65 MPH, the front engine block section
of the water jacket blew out. It was a massive gas cloud covering up the front
of the truck. It was lucky I was able to move to the right by 5 lanes.


If you blow your radiator at high speed - you will loose the engine block like I
did. wanna try - going to go for it or wait ? Not me.

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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: Hard solder - aka - silver solder. It is the
only way. Braze.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You usually know things that I don't know, so please tell me. How are you
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Nope - not at all. Why do you think I would ?

Soft solder dissolves and melts. Hard solder doesn't.

You can likely be able to use the phosphor bronze for air conditioning
tubing as well.

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Now that's a statement of fact!
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