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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:48:29 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth:

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:27:57 -0600, F. George McDuffee
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Therefore, the problem, when analyzed in depth, is that the
"illegals" are here, not because the want to be here, but because
they were forced from their home country by reasons of
"predatory/exploitative economics" and/or "state sponsored [or at
least condoned] terrorism," largely due to *EXTERNAL forces over
which they have no control, many of which unfortunately appear to
originate in the US from US domiciled trans-national
corporations.


I work with illegals everyday. And to a man (or woman) they came here
because of the money.


Having lived in LoCal for 35 years, that's pretty much all I ever
heard, too, other than better weather than they had in BF Mexico.


They come to Unitos Estatas for the big bucks. They pack together in a


That's "Estados Unidos", mon. (Español 101)


house in large groups, earn serious money and send it back to Mexico
or where ever, in the form of Giros (money orders), to their families
still living there.
When the standard wage in Mexico for example is $5 a day, making
$11.50 per hour pushing a green button, deducting living expenses, and
then sending the rest back to momma and la ninos makes much sense.

Giros are the 2nd or 3rd largest income stream that Mexico has, behind
oil production.


It's also a major income stream for companies like Western Union, who
makes billions on their sheets of paper (MOs) every year.


If asked..most will tell you that Mexico is a ******** of corruption


Then they find that particular reality here, too, though not as openly
flaunted as it is in Los Estados Unidos de Mexico.


with no jobs or money. So they come north. But they dont consider
themselves immigrants, just temporary workers making enough money for
retirement back home. They admit Mexico etc suck and suck badly..but
they do NOT consider themselves to be new Americans as our ancestors
did.


And THAT is the particularly nasty reality. The new immigrants are not
blending in, becoming melted into Americans. They keep their own
traditions and languages, forming their own mini-countries right here
in the States. That, too, is helping to tear our country apart.

Deport all illegals of any race/creed/color and put our out-of-work
forces back to work. Neither side will like it much at all, but it has
to be done, especially in the face of the new and looming recession.

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Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives.
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the press is in the Republican pocket.


ROFLMAO!

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A word of caution....it can happen to your neighborhood.




Nothing to doo with republicans! All to do with people who spent MUCH
more than they had coming in. People ,with no commin sense, that can

only
blame themselves for the situation they are in.




You mean an "interest only" mortgage that stretches my budget to the
breaking point now will not be sustainable when the rate adjustment and/or
balloon payment
comes due????

The liberals education system never taught us that!.....but, I DO know
about things like the snail darter, spotted owl, and global warming!!!

Unfortunately "New Math" let me down a bit!

The liberal education community continues to produce decreasing
intelligence - and common sense - among upcoming generations of consumers.



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Wrong.

Banks are the gatekeepers...they have a responsibility to their
creditors to lend money responsibily.

When they make bad loans...and they have made MILLLIONS of bad
loans...it shows that there was no oversight...and that places the
blame squarely upon the Republican Adminstration.

TMT

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Again, you show your ignorance to the REAL business world.

The primary responsibility of ANY business - locally-owned, one-man
operations all the way up to the largest bank in the country - is to make a
profit for the owner(s).

You won't last long if you put your customer above everything else -
including profit.


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They come to Unitos Estatas for the big bucks. They pack together in a


That's "Estados Unidos", mon. (Español 101)


It plays either way ...Ive heard it many times in both directions in
the shops.

Shrug

Mexican is just another corruption of spanish as American is a
corruption of English.

Which is whe highschool spanish students get lots of blank looks when
chatting up a Mexican, San Salvadorian etc.

Gunner


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wrote:
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I work with illegals everyday. And to a man (or woman) they came here
because of the money.

They come to Unitos Estatas for the big bucks.

snip
=====================
Thanks for the perspective, insight and reminder.

My main contact with Latino immigrants has been with wait staff
and small business owners, and this group may well be
self-selected socio-economic/political refugees.

As in many things, it appears that we do not have an
"immigration" problem, but immigration problem*s* in the US, with
many different causes, and many different (possibly overlapping)
immigrant groups.

This would help explain the total lack of progress and extreme
divisiveness the "immigration" issue is having in that one
section of society is observing/analyzing immigration
problem/immigrant group (A), and another section of society is
observing/analyzing immigration problem / immigrant group (X).

A fundamental problem appears to be that actions/activities that
reduces the motivation/need for one immigrant group to come to
the United States may well exacerbate and amplify the
motivation/need for other immigrant groups. For example,
increasing the employment opportunities in the home countries of
the individuals in United States because of the opportunity to
make money, possibly through large scale industrialization for
export products to the US, may further destabilize the home
countries existing economy/political society for the displaced
small farmers and shopkeepers. Political/police measures
taken/required to "pacify" a country to attract international
investment need for "industrialization" may well increase the
number of political refugees.

This is another area where unbiased and critical study is
urgently required if any meaningful action/gain is to be
realized, and precise definition of terms is required for
meaningful discussion.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:48:29 -0700, Gunner
wrote:
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I work with illegals everyday. And to a man (or woman) they came here
because of the money.

They come to Unitos Estatas for the big bucks.

snip
=====================
Thanks for the perspective, insight and reminder.

My main contact with Latino immigrants has been with wait staff
and small business owners, and this group may well be
self-selected socio-economic/political refugees.


Very well might be. And do NOT count Cubanos as Latinos. They are a
totally seperate culture all together.

As in many things, it appears that we do not have an
"immigration" problem, but immigration problem*s* in the US, with
many different causes, and many different (possibly overlapping)
immigrant groups.

This would help explain the total lack of progress and extreme
divisiveness the "immigration" issue is having in that one
section of society is observing/analyzing immigration
problem/immigrant group (A), and another section of society is
observing/analyzing immigration problem / immigrant group (X).

A fundamental problem appears to be that actions/activities that
reduces the motivation/need for one immigrant group to come to
the United States may well exacerbate and amplify the
motivation/need for other immigrant groups. For example,
increasing the employment opportunities in the home countries of
the individuals in United States because of the opportunity to
make money, possibly through large scale industrialization for
export products to the US, may further destabilize the home
countries existing economy/political society for the displaced
small farmers and shopkeepers. Political/police measures
taken/required to "pacify" a country to attract international
investment need for "industrialization" may well increase the
number of political refugees.

This is another area where unbiased and critical study is
urgently required if any meaningful action/gain is to be
realized, and precise definition of terms is required for
meaningful discussion.


Frankly..most of their home countries are controlled by small groups
of people who own nearly everything, either directly or via proxy

Mexico has MORE natural resources than the USA, yet its controlled by
the 7 Families, and enjoys one of the worst crime rates and lowest
standards of living on the NA continent.
A lot of those we see in California, are marginally literate, and are
fresh from rural villages. Its odd to see signs in bathrooms in
spanish, commanding that when you wipe your ass, you toss the ****
covered TP in the toilet and flush it down, rather than toss it into a
garbage can. Yet its pretty much a requirement in places that use
newer labor. Culture shock sometimes goes the other way.....

Gunner



Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

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On Mar 20, 12:16*am, "Hawke" wrote:
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I think that I have seen this once before a long time ago.


I hope that such things would not become too prevalent and will remain
isolated. Hopefully the capitalist economy would realign itself
quickly.


i


Well, it's not going to work itself out all by itself. Without a lot of
government intervention this will become a disaster. If the government does
the right things this can be managed and the country can overcome the
idiotic mistakes that were made over the last few years. It remains to be
seen if they do what is needed. It is looking like Henry Paulson, treasury
secretary, doesn't want to go out looking like a fool so he's trying to
avoid a complete meltdown. He may do a good job and turn this around pretty
quickly. Unlike Bush he's smart and competent. But this whole mess is all
the result of following republican idealists who believe that regulation of
business is a sin. If the government had been overseeing the mortgage and
banking systems like it should have this wouldn't have happened. But if you
let business do whatever it wants this is what you get. Be prepared to see a
return to heavy regulation of business after Bush has left for the funny
farm.

Hawke



On 2008-03-19, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
A word of caution....it can happen to your neighborhood.


And more is to come as the Republican recession deepens....


TMT


Foreclosed Homes: A Local Blight By KRISTIN KLOBERDANZ/MODESTO
Tue Mar 18


The peach-colored house in a modest subdivision near downtown Modesto,
Calif., used to be someone's dream home. But it stands out in a row of
similarly hued homes where many have a "For Sale" sign planted in
their front yards. The two-story appears battered: its address has
been scratched on a front panel and weeds choke what may once have
been a manicured lawn. And then there is the overwhelming stench of
human waste and stale beer. There has been no electricity and no
running water since the bank repossessed it months ago. Still, at
least three young men have been squatting here since January. The
dream home has become a nightmare.


This horror is not an uncommon sight in the Northern San Joaquin
Valley, where foreclosure rates are among the highest in the nation,
and vacant properties - so tempting to vagrants - flourish.


From a fire-gutted shell across from a pretty park on the north side
of town to a mangy wreck near the airport where a collection of cats
and dogs were found chained together in the yard, abandoned residences
are putting a blight on all types of neighborhoods. "We get about six
to ten calls a day on vacant homes," says police officer John McGill,
who stresses that this isn't just a problem in the poorer parts of
town.


Transients often move in, steal the power, tear apart the walls and
floorboards in search of valuable copper wires and piping and set
fires to cook drugs or keep warm. The police struggle to keep the
damage under control; but with no owner around to claim a trespass
violation on a repossessed home, it's difficult for them to make
arrests. All they can do is tell the squatters to leave, board up the
house and ship off a note to the bank that now owns the property.
"It's a victimless crime," says Bert Lippert, a bit sarcastically.


Lippert, along with police officers McGill and Amy Bublak, make up the
city's health unit, which takes care of vacant home problems.
Burglaries are up 26% in Modesto since a year ago, and the officers
say this has to do with the relentless assaults on foreclosed homes.
"We're seeing a shift in crimes," Bublak says, noting that people used
to just steal property from the outside. Now, in addition to
vandalizing the property, stripping its bones and using the yard as a
dumping ground, thieves have zeroed in on the homes' utilities. "Forty
percent of foreclosed homes in Modesto get their power stolen," says
the Modesto Irrigation District's Louis Maceira,who can often be found
locking or removing meters from these homes.


Just recently, this quiet, agricultural town of 200,000 was in a boom
period. House prices shot up in the early 2000s, and Modesto became a
bedroom community for the Bay area. But then the subprime mortgage
crisis hit hard: in February alone, Stanislaus County had 1,630
foreclosure filings, third highest in the nation. The physical toll it
is taking on this hub nestled amid the almond groves is staggering.
Huge, dusty stretches of subdivision developments lay untouched or
partially built as developers run out of money.


The 300-bed homeless shelter is now at capacity, and the local Humane
Society is swollen with pets that were left behind in homes when their
owners disappeared. Day laborers and contractors alike are having
trouble finding work. "This is a problem that's affecting the whole
community," Lippert says.


There are some glimmers of hope on the horizon. Charities like Habitat
for Humanity are taking advantage of the cheap home prices and labor
to fix up abandoned properties for underprivileged families. The
strangely upbeat Repo Home Tour bus is about to launch a regular
Saturday showing of vacant houses in an effort to get them sold
quickly. And the city, lenders and financial counselors are joining
forces to help residents prevent foreclosure. In fact, less than a
mile away from the peach-colored home, close to 1,000 people recently
gathered for the city's first free No Homeowner Left Behind seminar,
sponsored in part by the city and the local newspaper, the Modesto
Bee. Worried residents gathered to spend their Saturday talking to
lenders about how they can avoid losing their own homes. "I'm stressed
and in turmoil and have butterflies in my stomach," says P.J. Scruggs,
who says she is two months behind in paying her mortgage. She is
afraid she will lose the home that has been in her family for 35
years. "It's scary - this is just too rampant in the Valley."


If they need a cautionary nightmare, they can walk by the peach-
colored house. Just beyond the front door, a toilet has exploded into
the foyer and a thick sludge of feces seeps across the tiles and into
the living room. Beer bottles, wine boxes, cigarette cartons, condom
wrappers, dirty clothes and dog chow pile up on the soggy carpeting.
Gang tags and drug-addled poetry splash the walls in red, gold and
black spray paint. The decimated kitchen counters sag beneath jugs of
curdled milk and rot-encrusted dishes. Scratched in the entrance hall
is a fitting salutation: "Welcome to Hell." View this article on
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"If the government had been overseeing the mortgage and
banking systems like it should have this wouldn't have happened. "

I agree...

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:


On Mar 19, 12:54 pm, cavelamb himself wrote:


Wes wrote:


"NewsGroups" spar@plaus wrote:


Nothing to doo with republicans! *All to do with people who spent MUCH
more than they had coming in. * People ,with no commin sense, that can

only
blame themselves for the situation they are in.


Just another version of the run on Nasdaq, Enron, ect. *By the time we
commoners find out about the ez money it is sucker time.


Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller


What ever happened to, "You can't cheat an honest man"?


You want something for nothing, you get nothing for something.- Hide

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I have heard that saying used when referencing President Bush.


TMT


this is looking like Obsessive compulsive disorder...


No, I think it's a case of right wingers not wanting to be subjected to the
well deserved criticism they're hearing about Bush all the time now. It was
a lot different when Bush first started the war and cut taxes. Then they
loved Bush. But now after everyone has turned on him and sees what a ****ty
president and how incompetent he is they don't like it. That's because it's
their fault we're in this mess. They voted for him. They have buyers
remorse. They voted for the dumbest and most incompetent president in our
lives, twice! They don't like hearing or admitting that. I can't blame them.
But instead of joining in on the anti republican side and wanting them gone
they're still defending them or at least attacking all non republicans. They
never learn when it's time to jump ship so they're destined to go down with
it. It's tough being them now we're on the way down. Because they're to
blame for it.

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Well said.

I haven't seen any "Blame me... I voted for Bush" bumper stickers.

TMT
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
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A word of caution....it can happen to your neighborhood.


Nothing to doo with republicans! *All to do with people who spent MUCH
more than they had coming in. * People ,with no commin sense, that can

only
blame themselves for the situation they are in.


You mean an "interest only" mortgage that stretches my budget to the
breaking point now will not be sustainable when the rate adjustment and/or
balloon payment
comes due????

The liberals education system never taught us that!.....but, I DO know
about things like the snail darter, spotted owl, and global warming!!!

Unfortunately "New Math" let me down a bit!

The liberal education community continues to produce decreasing
intelligence - and common sense - among upcoming generations of consumers.


The liberal education did teach you about interest...were you paying
attention?

TMT


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On Mar 21, 12:30*am, Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:24:17 -0600, F. George McDuffee

wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:48:29 -0700, Gunner
wrote:
snip
I work with illegals everyday. And to a man (or woman) they came here
because of the money.


They come to Unitos Estatas for the big bucks.

snip
=====================
Thanks for the perspective, insight and reminder.


My main contact with Latino immigrants has been with wait staff
and small business owners, and this group may well be
self-selected socio-economic/political refugees.


Very well might be. And do NOT count Cubanos as Latinos. They are a
totally seperate culture all together.







As in many things, it appears that we do not have an
"immigration" problem, but immigration problem*s* in the US, with
many different causes, and many different (possibly overlapping)
immigrant groups.


This would help explain the total lack of progress and extreme
divisiveness the "immigration" issue is having in that one
section of society is observing/analyzing immigration
problem/immigrant group (A), and another section of society is
observing/analyzing immigration problem / immigrant group (X).


A fundamental problem appears to be that actions/activities that
reduces the motivation/need for one immigrant group to come to
the United States may well exacerbate and amplify the
motivation/need for other immigrant groups. * For example,
increasing the employment opportunities in the home countries of
the individuals in United States because of the opportunity to
make money, possibly through large scale industrialization for
export products to the US, may further destabilize the home
countries existing economy/political society for the displaced
small farmers and shopkeepers. *Political/police measures
taken/required to "pacify" a country to attract international
investment need for "industrialization" may well increase the
number of political refugees.


This is another area where unbiased and critical study is
urgently required if any meaningful action/gain is to be
realized, and precise definition of terms is required for
meaningful discussion.


Frankly..most of their home countries are controlled by small groups
of people who own nearly everything, either directly or via proxy

Mexico has MORE natural resources than the USA, yet its controlled by
the 7 Families, and enjoys one of the worst crime rates and lowest
standards of living on the NA continent.
A lot of those we see in California, are marginally literate, and are
fresh from rural villages. * Its odd to see signs in bathrooms in
spanish, commanding that when you wipe your ass, you toss the ****
covered TP in the toilet and flush it down, rather than toss it into a
garbage can. *Yet its pretty much a requirement in places that use
newer labor. *Culture shock sometimes goes the other way.....

Gunner





Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?


Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).- Hide quoted text -


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When in Mexico with their too small plumbing, flusing paper down is a
guarantee to plugging the pipes.

I suspect they have signs in English telling you to throw the paper in
the trash can.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do...

How many families control the majority of the resources in the United
States?

TMT

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On Mar 20, 12:34*am, "Hawke" wrote:
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:


On Mar 19, 12:54 pm, cavelamb himself wrote:


Wes wrote:


"NewsGroups" spar@plaus wrote:


Nothing to doo with republicans! *All to do with people who spent MUCH
more than they had coming in. * People ,with no commin sense, that can

only
blame themselves for the situation they are in.


Just another version of the run on Nasdaq, Enron, ect. *By the time we
commoners find out about the ez money it is sucker time.


Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller


What ever happened to, "You can't cheat an honest man"?


You want something for nothing, you get nothing for something.- Hide

quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I have heard that saying used when referencing President Bush.


TMT


this is looking like Obsessive compulsive disorder...


No, I think it's a case of right wingers not wanting to be subjected to the
well deserved criticism they're hearing about Bush all the time now. It was
a lot different when Bush first started the war and cut taxes. Then they
loved Bush. But now after everyone has turned on him and sees what a ****ty
president and how incompetent he is they don't like it. That's because it's
their fault we're in this mess. They voted for him. They have buyers
remorse. They voted for the dumbest and most incompetent president in our
lives, twice! They don't like hearing or admitting that. I can't blame them.
But instead of joining in on the anti republican side and wanting them gone
they're still defending them or at least attacking all non republicans. They
never learn when it's time to jump ship so they're destined to go down with
it. It's tough being them now we're on the way down. Because they're to
blame for it.

Hawke- Hide quoted text -

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Well said.

I haven't seen any "Blame me... I voted for Bush" bumper stickers.

TMT


Speaking of obsessive compulsive disorders..it would appear that Hawke
and you are entering the terminal stages of BDS

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On Mar 21, 12:30*am, Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:24:17 -0600, F. George McDuffee

wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:48:29 -0700, Gunner
wrote:
snip
I work with illegals everyday. And to a man (or woman) they came here
because of the money.


They come to Unitos Estatas for the big bucks.
snip
=====================
Thanks for the perspective, insight and reminder.


My main contact with Latino immigrants has been with wait staff
and small business owners, and this group may well be
self-selected socio-economic/political refugees.


Very well might be. And do NOT count Cubanos as Latinos. They are a
totally seperate culture all together.







As in many things, it appears that we do not have an
"immigration" problem, but immigration problem*s* in the US, with
many different causes, and many different (possibly overlapping)
immigrant groups.


This would help explain the total lack of progress and extreme
divisiveness the "immigration" issue is having in that one
section of society is observing/analyzing immigration
problem/immigrant group (A), and another section of society is
observing/analyzing immigration problem / immigrant group (X).


A fundamental problem appears to be that actions/activities that
reduces the motivation/need for one immigrant group to come to
the United States may well exacerbate and amplify the
motivation/need for other immigrant groups. * For example,
increasing the employment opportunities in the home countries of
the individuals in United States because of the opportunity to
make money, possibly through large scale industrialization for
export products to the US, may further destabilize the home
countries existing economy/political society for the displaced
small farmers and shopkeepers. *Political/police measures
taken/required to "pacify" a country to attract international
investment need for "industrialization" may well increase the
number of political refugees.


This is another area where unbiased and critical study is
urgently required if any meaningful action/gain is to be
realized, and precise definition of terms is required for
meaningful discussion.


Frankly..most of their home countries are controlled by small groups
of people who own nearly everything, either directly or via proxy

Mexico has MORE natural resources than the USA, yet its controlled by
the 7 Families, and enjoys one of the worst crime rates and lowest
standards of living on the NA continent.
A lot of those we see in California, are marginally literate, and are
fresh from rural villages. * Its odd to see signs in bathrooms in
spanish, commanding that when you wipe your ass, you toss the ****
covered TP in the toilet and flush it down, rather than toss it into a
garbage can. *Yet its pretty much a requirement in places that use
newer labor. *Culture shock sometimes goes the other way.....

Gunner





Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?


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When in Mexico with their too small plumbing, flusing paper down is a
guarantee to plugging the pipes.

I suspect they have signs in English telling you to throw the paper in
the trash can.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do...

How many families control the majority of the resources in the United
States?

TMT


Millions

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Well said.

I haven't seen any "Blame me... I voted for Bush" bumper stickers.

TMT

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True!

But, you STILL see liberals - proud to be losers - displaying their
Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers today..........


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