For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

On Mar 10, 7:04 pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

By the news reports, he was paying with cash and this is what got the
FBI involved, looking for black mail, etc. That is when the began
monitoring telephone calls, looking for threats, etc.
Paul

"Ignoramus25976" wrote in message
...
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i


Pussy has always been my Achilles' heel......

Rob

On Mar 10, 8:04*pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

Elliott will wish he had spent it on his machine shop.

Now he will get to work in the machine shop in prison.

TMT

More likely the machine shop guys will be working him. They're likely
not as pretty as his $ hookers.
JR
Dweller in the the cellar

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:01:00 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
wrote:

On Mar 10, 8:04*pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

Elliott will wish he had spent it on his machine shop.

Now he will get to work in the machine shop in prison.

TMT

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:01:00 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
wrote:

On Mar 10, 8:04*pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

Elliott will wish he had spent it on his machine shop.

Now he will get to work in the machine shop in prison.

TMT

Same prison Barney Fag..er Frank spent time in for running a male
prostitute ring out of his apartment?

Gunner

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:04:02 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus25976 quickly quoth:

For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

And here I thought only Televangelists had that kind of kinky desires
and the money to pursue them...


--
It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars.
-- Garrison Keillor

JR North wrote:

More likely the machine shop guys will be working him. They're likely
not as pretty as his $ hookers.


I bet there are a few CEO's that would be glad to pay some guys in the joint
to work him.

Wes

On 2008-03-11, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:04:02 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus25976 quickly quoth:

For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

And here I thought only Televangelists had that kind of kinky desires
and the money to pursue them...

Spitzer liked calling himself "the steamroller".

Now the term has a new meaning, as I visualize Spitzer "steamrolling"
those $5,500 per hour prostitutes.

The dumbass even paid for them with checks.

i

On Mar 11, 6:29*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:04:02 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus25976 quickly quoth:

For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

And here I thought only Televangelists had that kind of kinky desires
and the money to pursue them...

--
It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Garrison Keillor

Actually this story has far to go yet.

The dating service served MANY people.

And the FBI has all the names.

I wonder if McCaine is in that list?

TMT

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
wrote:

On Mar 11, 6:29*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:04:02 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus25976 quickly quoth:

For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

And here I thought only Televangelists had that kind of kinky desires
and the money to pursue them...

--
It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Garrison Keillor

Actually this story has far to go yet.

The dating service served MANY people.

And the FBI has all the names.

I wonder if McCaine is in that list?

TMT
Or Billy boy
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Mar 10, 8:04 pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

Well after reading this story I am starting to wonder if the FBI is
watching me.

But a few machines, $4000 there, $5000 here and pretty soon the
government will think that I am buying love instead of old American
iron.

Okay, okay ...maybe it is the same thing. ;)

TMT

Spitzer tripped up on laws he enforced By SAMANTHA GROSS and DEVLIN
BARRETT, Associated Press Writers
46 minutes ago



Eliot Spitzer knew how to catch bad guys by following the money. As
attorney general, he once broke up a call-girl ring and locked up 18
people on corruption, money-laundering and prostitution charges. He
ruthlessly investigated the pay packages of Wall Street executives and
was so familiar with shady financial maneuvers that he rose to become
the top racketeering prosecutor in Manhattan.

But in the end, it appears that Spitzer may have been done in by the
same behavior he built a career out of prosecuting.

In fact, it seems he was tripped up by some of the very financial
accounting methods he used so successfully against multibillion-dollar
Wall Street firms.

For one thing, the governor initially drew the attention of federal
investigators because of cash payments to an account operated by a
call-girl ring, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on
condition of because of the sensitivity of the case.

Banks are required to file Suspicious Activity Reports to the
government whenever they observe something they fear may be a crime.

In court papers, Client 9 -- identified by another law enforcement
official as Spitzer -- hurried to get more than $4,000 in cash to pay a
call girl at a Washington hotel.

That kind of activity, repeated over time, is just the kind of thing
that would set off alarm bells with a bank's compliance officer, who
is trained to be on the lookout for what is called structuring or
"smurfing" -- a pattern of transactions aimed at hiding the nature or
purpose of certain money.

Spitzer of all people should have known that, said Miami-based lawyer
Gregory Baldwin, credited with coining the term "smurfing" in the
1980s as a federal prosecutor.

"I think he's done enough cases where he's charged money laundering
that he would know exactly what kind of information you get from the
banks. It's such a perfect example of what goes around, comes around,"
he said.

By the time the scandal broke this week, Spitzer's financial
transactions had been monitored, his phone calls had been caught on
tape, and his actions had been scrutinized by federal prosecutors. It
could have been straight out of the Spitzer prosecution playbook.

Whether Spitzer thought he was smarter than the feds because of his
own professional experience is, for now at least, a matter for
psychologists to speculate on.

As New York attorney general, Spitzer was also familiar with how to
bust up a prostitution ring.

Spitzer proudly announced on April 8, 2004, that authorities had
arrested 18 people on promoting prostitution and related charges --
including money laundering and falsifying business records -- in an
investigation of escort services in New York.

"This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered
management structure," Spitzer said at the time. "It was, however,
nothing more than a prostitution ring, and now its owners and
operators will be held accountable."

In the 2004 probe, investigators used wiretaps and other surveillance
to build their case, said Vincent Romano, who defended the man accused
of running the ring. Prosecutors also charged some of the defendants
with enterprise corruption -- a charge carrying heavier penalties than
simple prostitution. No charges were brought against the ring's
customers, just those accused of working for or running the service.

"It was a big splash. They had the perp walk. He caused a lot of
embarrassment to a lot of people in the case to his benefit. What he
put their families through at the time, he's probably experiencing
now: the level of embarrassment and ridicule," Romano said.

"He's got this overzealous, mean-spirited prosecution, but behind
closed doors in another state, he's doing the identical thing that
he's accusing others of doing," he added. "And the other irony of it
is that you've made a career off of a wiretap, and your demise is by
the same prosecutorial tool."

The investigation that could spell Spitzer's ruin found that Client 9
was apparently a repeat customer with the Emperors Club VIP, a
lucrative prostitution service where some call girls pulled in $5,500
an hour. The governor has not been charged, and prosecutors would not
comment on the case.

A person familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press
that the probe began with a referral from banks to an Internal Revenue
Service office on Long Island about suspicious transactions involving
accounts ultimately traced to Spitzer. The IRS studied the records and
then referred the case to federal prosecutors in October. It was then
assigned to the public corruption unit of the federal prosecutor's
office in Manhattan.

The precise details of what set off alarm bells for federal
authorities are still unclear.

But authorities believe Spitzer may have spent tens of thousands of
dollars, apparently transferring only personal funds -- not campaign
contributions or state taxpayer dollars -- between accounts to pay for
the prostitute service, according to a law enforcement official who
spoke on condition of anonymity.

Another official said the amount could be as much as $80,000.

A half-million or so times every year, banks alert the federal
government that a suspicious transaction has occurred. Although the
public sometimes thinks it requires a transfer of $10,000 or more to
attract attention, banks can label transactions suspicious even if
they involve far less money, said Walter Pagano, a former IRS agent
who has testified in court on white-collar crime.

Spitzer might have tried to keep his transfers below the $10,000
threshold, underestimating the scrutiny that banks give to lesser
amounts.

Spitzer prosecuted cases in New York for two decades before becoming
governor. From 1986 to 1992, he was an assistant district attorney in
Manhattan. While there, he rose to become chief of the labor
racketeering unit.

While attorney general, he also went up against two men he accused of
using their tour company to promote "sex tourism" in the Philippines
and Thailand -- first suing them in civil court and then bringing
criminal charges.

One defense attorney on the case said it was politically motivated.

"He prosecuted a couple of little guys who were easy targets when he
was running for governor," Daniel Hochheiser said. "The whole
situation is marked by irony, hypocrisy and self-righteousness."

___

Associated Press Writer Devlin Barrett contributed to this report from
Washington and AP Writer Larry Neumeister contributed from New York.

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:17:50 -0400, Gerald Miller
wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Garrison Keillor

Actually this story has far to go yet.

The dating service served MANY people.

And the FBI has all the names.

I wonder if McCaine is in that list?

TMT
Or Billy boy
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Or Hillary!

--Andy Asberry--
------Texas-----

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
wrote:

On Mar 11, 6:29*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:04:02 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus25976 quickly quoth:

For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

And here I thought only Televangelists had that kind of kinky desires
and the money to pursue them...

--
It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Garrison Keillor

Actually this story has far to go yet.

The dating service served MANY people.

And the FBI has all the names.

I wonder if McCaine is in that list?

TMT

Or Hillary?

Gunner

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:20:48 -0500, Andy Asberry
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:17:50 -0400, Gerald Miller
wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Garrison Keillor

Actually this story has far to go yet.

The dating service served MANY people.

And the FBI has all the names.

I wonder if McCaine is in that list?

TMT
Or Billy boy
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Or Hillary!

--Andy Asberry--
------Texas-----
================
All of which proves the Patriot Act is working and the FBI is
indeed protecting us from "terrorists." J. Edgar would be proud.

FWIW -- the FBI was established to enforce the Mann Act. Nice to
see an organization that is still close to its roots.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:54:40 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote:


Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

I grew up in Vegas, therefore have some intimate knowledge of prostitutes
and the biz. Not on a personal level, mind you, save for a couple of their
daughters ................... and if you count that ............. but I
digress ...........

Bottom line, they don't get to keep all the money. There's all sorts of
deductions, and a good hooker is HIGH maintenance. I doubt if these girls
got to keep 20% of what they take in. Some girls are lucky to get to keep
enough for busfare and a Happy Meal. No ****. But I do think there are a
slightly higher percentage of retired hookers who had some brains and
invested. I know a few, but only a few. Most of the good ones married well
and got a good life or a hell of a Palimony settlement.

Steve


Again it largely depends on the class of prostitute. Street girls who
are part of a flock owned by a pimp, see a fraction fo their earnings,
and that is often put back into their drug habit.

House girls see about 50-65% of their earnings, the house taking the
rest for "services"

Outcall girls keep most of the money, as they are private contractors
and pay the "Escort Service" who hires them (in most cases)

Freelancers keep all the money, but its risky to work in the sex trade
without a backup. These may be either street girls or high enders.

Most street girls are hooking because of a drug habit, as the money
isnt all that good. High enders can retire very rich if they are
smart.

Then there are the part timers, who use prostitution as a fill in
income (no pun intended)
We see a lot of these in Canada, and in the US, often being Soccer
Moms and so forth.

Probably going to see more part timers as the housing bubble continues
to wreck havoc.

Personally, I firmly believe prostitution should be legal. Ive never
paid for sex, though in many cases over the years, it would have been
far cheaper to pay to bust a nut, rather than go through the rituals
of courtship. I did however work as a part time bouncher in a "house"
in Nevada many years ago while working in a particular area.
The girls there, were for the most part, working when not in college,
to earn the money for the next semesters classes. I know of at least
one doctor and a couple lawyers who paid for their tuition this way.

In Canada its quasi-legal IRRC and in Austrailia, its very legal IRRC,
along with many other first world nations.

Gunner

"Ignoramus25976" wrote in message
...
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

I grew up in Vegas, therefore have some intimate knowledge of prostitutes
and the biz. Not on a personal level, mind you, save for a couple of their
daughters ................... and if you count that ............. but I
digress ...........

Bottom line, they don't get to keep all the money. There's all sorts of
deductions, and a good hooker is HIGH maintenance. I doubt if these girls
got to keep 20% of what they take in. Some girls are lucky to get to keep
enough for busfare and a Happy Meal. No ****. But I do think there are a
slightly higher percentage of retired hookers who had some brains and
invested. I know a few, but only a few. Most of the good ones married well
and got a good life or a hell of a Palimony settlement.

Steve

On Mar 10, 8:04*pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

FYI...the girl who sunk a governor.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/NY-Gov...3V.heQE0BH2ocA

Pretty girl but I will take a Bridgeport any day.

TMT

[B[BBBOn 2008-03-13, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:04*pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

FYI...the girl who sunk a governor.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/NY-Gov...3V.heQE0BH2ocA

Pretty girl but I will take a Bridgeport any day.

TMT


I am not too impressed with the lady on the picture.

i

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:01:32 -0500, Ignoramus17007
wrote:

[B[BBBOn 2008-03-13, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:04*pm, Ignoramus25976 ignoramus25...@NOSPAM.
25976.invalid wrote:
For an hour of ****ing, these prostitutes can earn an equivalent of 27
hydraulic 20 ton presses from Harbor Freight, or a Miller Dynasty 200DX
welding machine with a new Coolmate 3.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/..._spitzer_dc_15

I am shocked by this and cannot even fathom what is it that they do
with their clients that makes them worth so much. Especially since
they cannot even keep secrets.

Doubtfully Elliott Spitzer was actually paying them with cash,
probably some favors were exchanged related to his official capacity.
Maybe he endorsed Hillary due to those sexual favors.

i

FYI...the girl who sunk a governor.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/NY-Gov...3V.heQE0BH2ocA

Pretty girl but I will take a Bridgeport any day.

TMT


I am not too impressed with the lady on the picture.

i


For that kind of money..she had best be able to deep throat it, tuck a
ball in each cheek and hum the Star Spangled Banner

Gunner

On 2008-03-14, Gunner wrote:
For that kind of money..she had best be able to deep throat it, tuck a
ball in each cheek and hum the Star Spangled Banner

Heard this on the radio today...

One of Spitzer's campaign slogans that got him elected, was "to bring
passion back to Albany". So, in a way, he fulfilled it.

i

Ignoramus17509 wrote:
On 2008-03-14, Gunner wrote:
For that kind of money..she had best be able to deep throat it, tuck a
ball in each cheek and hum the Star Spangled Banner

Heard this on the radio today...

One of Spitzer's campaign slogans that got him elected, was "to bring
passion back to Albany". So, in a way, he fulfilled it.

Sounds to me like he b(r)ought passion everywhere BUT Albany - Dallas,
Vegas, Atlanta.....