Hi,
Because my original note vanished a day after I posted it (at least on my
computer) I am reposting this link of shameless self promotion of me
building a horn in my shop.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UPvLUhdwpaE

LLB

On Mar 5, 7:45 pm, "LLBrown" wrote:
Hi,
Because my original note vanished a day after I posted it (at least on my
computer) I am reposting this link of shameless self promotion of me
building a horn in my shop.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UPvLUhdwpaE

LLB

No, It's still there for March 3.

Paul

On Mar 5, 5:45 pm, "LLBrown" wrote:
Hi,
Because my original note vanished a day after I posted it (at least on my
computer) I am reposting this link of shameless self promotion of me
building a horn in my shop.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UPvLUhdwpaE

LLB

That's cool. Did you fill the tubes with pitch to make the bends
without kinks?
Karl

wrote in message
...
On Mar 5, 5:45 pm, "LLBrown" wrote:
Hi,
Because my original note vanished a day after I posted it (at least on
my
computer) I am reposting this link of shameless self promotion of me
building a horn in my shop.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UPvLUhdwpaE

LLB

That's cool. Did you fill the tubes with pitch to make the bends
without kinks?
Karl

Pitch is a pain because of the hot climate where I live but I still use it
because I don't want to spend the time to learn to use another material.

LLB

On 2008-03-06, LLBrown wrote:
Hi,
Because my original note vanished a day after I posted it (at least on my
computer) I am reposting this link of shameless self promotion of me
building a horn in my shop.

Normally, when you read an article, your newsreader marks it as
"already read" and will not present it to you again. This does not mean
that it is not out there for others to encounter for the first time.
Reposting it clutters up the newsgroup -- and this one is bad enough as
it is with 300+ articles per day, and a lot off topic. My killfile is
zapping between 50% and 66% of the articles each day, which is the only
thing which makes it practical for me to read.

As for how long an article will stick around -- that depends on
the news server. The one you use may keep articles for a month, some
other news serves may keep them around for six months, and Google keeps
them for ever (if not marked "X-Archive-No: " in the headers) but will
shuttle those which are past a certain age to where you need to jump
through hoops to access them to keep you from being flooded with way too
many. And some news servers (on systems tight on memory) may expire
articles within a day. But they are still out there in all of the other
news servers around the world. It is not like a web site where
everything is kept on a single machine.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Mar 6, 2:16 am, "LLBrown" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Mar 5, 5:45 pm, "LLBrown" wrote:
Hi,
Because my original note vanished a day after I posted it (at least on
my
computer) I am reposting this link of shameless self promotion of me
building a horn in my shop.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UPvLUhdwpaE

LLB

That's cool. Did you fill the tubes with pitch to make the bends
without kinks?
Karl

Pitch is a pain because of the hot climate where I live but I still use it
because I don't want to spend the time to learn to use another material.

LLB

Thanks
Karl

Where would i find details of the pitch bending process? In the next few
months I am going to build a header system for a Lotus race car similar to
this,
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/br...93272165ll.htm
out of Titanuim or Stainless, and would like to eliminate as many welds as
possible while keeping bends smooth.

--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Don,
The server (I guess) took ALL posts from before March 1 and vanished
them... read or unread. The other groups didn't act that way.

LLB

"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
On 2008-03-06, LLBrown wrote:
Hi,
Because my original note vanished a day after I posted it (at least on
my
computer) I am reposting this link of shameless self promotion of me
building a horn in my shop.

Normally, when you read an article, your newsreader marks it as
"already read" and will not present it to you again. This does not mean
that it is not out there for others to encounter for the first time.
Reposting it clutters up the newsgroup -- and this one is bad enough as
it is with 300+ articles per day, and a lot off topic. My killfile is
zapping between 50% and 66% of the articles each day, which is the only
thing which makes it practical for me to read.

As for how long an article will stick around -- that depends on
the news server. The one you use may keep articles for a month, some
other news serves may keep them around for six months, and Google keeps
them for ever (if not marked "X-Archive-No: " in the headers) but will
shuttle those which are past a certain age to where you need to jump
through hoops to access them to keep you from being flooded with way too
many. And some news servers (on systems tight on memory) may expire
articles within a day. But they are still out there in all of the other
news servers around the world. It is not like a web site where
everything is kept on a single machine.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

"Stupendous Man" wrote in message
...
Where would i find details of the pitch bending process? In the next few
months I am going to build a header system for a Lotus race car similar to
this,
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/br...93272165ll.htm
out of Titanuim or Stainless, and would like to eliminate as many welds as
possible while keeping bends smooth.

--
Dear Stup,
There are no articles that I know of. The pipe is filled with pitch,
making sure there are no voids. Horn makers use to use lead but there are
some advantages to pitch. Other materials include ice, sand, teflon, and
the "low melt" stuff. Once bent the pitch is melted out with a torch.
For horns the pitch is formulated to be worked with at 70 degrees I think, I
go a little colder. I don't know if pitch would hold up to the forces
needed to bend headers.

LLB

On 2008-03-08, LLBrown wrote:
Don,
The server (I guess) took ALL posts from before March 1 and vanished
them... read or unread. The other groups didn't act that way.

Then that was likely a crashed drive on *that* one server. But
the article made it out past that server and is in thousands of other
servers around the world. If one of them feeds it back late enough, it
will even reappear in your server.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

I don't know if pitch would hold up to the forces
needed to bend headers.


Thanks. I have done sand bending before but i am always looking for a better
way. Is there a particlular type of pitch preferred or should I just tap
one of the cedars or sugar pines in my yard? Do you close the tube ends
before bending?
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

"Stupendous Man" wrote in message
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I don't know if pitch would hold up to the forces
needed to bend headers.


Thanks. I have done sand bending before but i am always looking for a
better way. Is there a particlular type of pitch preferred or should I
just tap one of the cedars or sugar pines in my yard? Do you close the
tube ends before bending?
--
Dear Stupe,
I think this stuff is more street tar than tree sap. It can be had by
the gallon ( I think) from Freree's band repair supply company on the web.
The pitch is really hard in the pipe and not going anywhere so, no, we don't
have to close the ends before bending.