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MILLER THUNDERBOLT receptacles wanted
I am looking for a 'number' of Miller Thunderbolt round receptacles in any
colors. Yes, I can buy new but I need quite a few for a project that isn't worth new prices. Thanks j/b |
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MILLER THUNDERBOLT receptacles wanted
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:56:21 -0600, "jusme" wrote:
I am looking for a 'number' of Miller Thunderbolt round receptacles in any colors. Yes, I can buy new but I need quite a few for a project that isn't worth new prices. What 'receptacles' are you looking for - that's a rather vague description - the ones for the welding leads on the control panel? You might have better luck if you can ID them by OE manufacturer and size or style, say 'Tweco 200-amp' or such. Most of them are generic, with exceptions. And what are you doing with them? They used to use live-front pin and socket connectors like that all the time on stage lighting dimmer control and patch bays, even in schools - then they decided it was unsafe, and banned their use on most Class 1 "high-voltage" uses. (They still get used on portable theatrical lighting power systems, but they only get touched by trained electricians and are constantly supervised by same whenever energized.) Welding is Class 2 "low-voltage", in the eyes of most electrical codes anything under 50V Open Circuit allegedly is "intrinsically safe". It's a nice fiction, you keep right on believing that... You still have to be careful with DC welding current power systems, but not quite as careful as with higher voltages. It won't actively jump out and bite you, but you still don't want to be creating shorts on purpose. And TIG welding current with AC "high frequency" imposed on it as an arc-starter WILL zap you but good if you get bit. And where are you? There are local surplus aerospace and electrical stores all over that would have used and "New Old Stock" connectors like that, but this is an item you'll have to go in and 'put your hands on' to make sure it will work for your application. -- Bruce -- |
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MILLER THUNDERBOLT receptacles wanted
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:44:17 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:56:21 -0600, "jusme" wrote: I am looking for a 'number' of Miller Thunderbolt round receptacles in any colors. Yes, I can buy new but I need quite a few for a project that isn't worth new prices. What 'receptacles' are you looking for - that's a rather vague description - the ones for the welding leads on the control panel? You might have better luck if you can ID them by OE manufacturer and size or style, say 'Tweco 200-amp' or such. Most of them are generic, with exceptions. And what are you doing with them? They used to use live-front pin and socket connectors like that all the time on stage lighting dimmer control and patch bays, even in schools - then they decided it was unsafe, and banned their use on most Class 1 "high-voltage" uses. (They still get used on portable theatrical lighting power systems, but they only get touched by trained electricians and are constantly supervised by same whenever energized.) Welding is Class 2 "low-voltage", in the eyes of most electrical codes anything under 50V Open Circuit allegedly is "intrinsically safe". It's a nice fiction, you keep right on believing that... You still have to be careful with DC welding current power systems, but not quite as careful as with higher voltages. It won't actively jump out and bite you, but you still don't want to be creating shorts on purpose. And TIG welding current with AC "high frequency" imposed on it as an arc-starter WILL zap you but good if you get bit. And where are you? There are local surplus aerospace and electrical stores all over that would have used and "New Old Stock" connectors like that, but this is an item you'll have to go in and 'put your hands on' to make sure it will work for your application. -- Bruce -- Or buy some brass stock and a #1 MT reamer and make something very close for pennies Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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MILLER THUNDERBOLT receptacles wanted
Bruce,
Yes, they are the front panel sockets/receptacles on the Miller Thunderbolt. I have several a.c. welders that I want to make into d.c., hence, the extra sockets. I am in central Texas. I appreciate your additional concern about my safety. As an additional use for the sockets, I thought that I would occasionally do an electro-catharsis by plugging the cathode/negative into my navel and the anode/positive in the nether regions and see if I couldn't do a 'colonic'. j/b "Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message ... On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:56:21 -0600, "jusme" wrote: I am looking for a 'number' of Miller Thunderbolt round receptacles in any colors. Yes, I can buy new but I need quite a few for a project that isn't worth new prices. What 'receptacles' are you looking for - that's a rather vague description - the ones for the welding leads on the control panel? You might have better luck if you can ID them by OE manufacturer and size or style, say 'Tweco 200-amp' or such. Most of them are generic, with exceptions. And what are you doing with them? They used to use live-front pin and socket connectors like that all the time on stage lighting dimmer control and patch bays, even in schools - then they decided it was unsafe, and banned their use on most Class 1 "high-voltage" uses. (They still get used on portable theatrical lighting power systems, but they only get touched by trained electricians and are constantly supervised by same whenever energized.) Welding is Class 2 "low-voltage", in the eyes of most electrical codes anything under 50V Open Circuit allegedly is "intrinsically safe". It's a nice fiction, you keep right on believing that... You still have to be careful with DC welding current power systems, but not quite as careful as with higher voltages. It won't actively jump out and bite you, but you still don't want to be creating shorts on purpose. And TIG welding current with AC "high frequency" imposed on it as an arc-starter WILL zap you but good if you get bit. And where are you? There are local surplus aerospace and electrical stores all over that would have used and "New Old Stock" connectors like that, but this is an item you'll have to go in and 'put your hands on' to make sure it will work for your application. -- Bruce -- |
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MILLER THUNDERBOLT receptacles wanted
Gunner,
That is a good idea. However, I thought those sockets were somewhat tapered. No matter, as I could taper them. j/b "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:44:17 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:56:21 -0600, "jusme" wrote: I am looking for a 'number' of Miller Thunderbolt round receptacles in any colors. Yes, I can buy new but I need quite a few for a project that isn't worth new prices. What 'receptacles' are you looking for - that's a rather vague description - the ones for the welding leads on the control panel? You might have better luck if you can ID them by OE manufacturer and size or style, say 'Tweco 200-amp' or such. Most of them are generic, with exceptions. And what are you doing with them? They used to use live-front pin and socket connectors like that all the time on stage lighting dimmer control and patch bays, even in schools - then they decided it was unsafe, and banned their use on most Class 1 "high-voltage" uses. (They still get used on portable theatrical lighting power systems, but they only get touched by trained electricians and are constantly supervised by same whenever energized.) Welding is Class 2 "low-voltage", in the eyes of most electrical codes anything under 50V Open Circuit allegedly is "intrinsically safe". It's a nice fiction, you keep right on believing that... You still have to be careful with DC welding current power systems, but not quite as careful as with higher voltages. It won't actively jump out and bite you, but you still don't want to be creating shorts on purpose. And TIG welding current with AC "high frequency" imposed on it as an arc-starter WILL zap you but good if you get bit. And where are you? There are local surplus aerospace and electrical stores all over that would have used and "New Old Stock" connectors like that, but this is an item you'll have to go in and 'put your hands on' to make sure it will work for your application. -- Bruce -- Or buy some brass stock and a #1 MT reamer and make something very close for pennies Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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MILLER THUNDERBOLT receptacles wanted
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:02:19 -0600, "jusme" wrote:
Gunner, That is a good idea. However, I thought those sockets were somewhat tapered. No matter, as I could taper them. j/b 1MT is tapered. Gunner "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:44:17 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:56:21 -0600, "jusme" wrote: I am looking for a 'number' of Miller Thunderbolt round receptacles in any colors. Yes, I can buy new but I need quite a few for a project that isn't worth new prices. What 'receptacles' are you looking for - that's a rather vague description - the ones for the welding leads on the control panel? You might have better luck if you can ID them by OE manufacturer and size or style, say 'Tweco 200-amp' or such. Most of them are generic, with exceptions. And what are you doing with them? They used to use live-front pin and socket connectors like that all the time on stage lighting dimmer control and patch bays, even in schools - then they decided it was unsafe, and banned their use on most Class 1 "high-voltage" uses. (They still get used on portable theatrical lighting power systems, but they only get touched by trained electricians and are constantly supervised by same whenever energized.) Welding is Class 2 "low-voltage", in the eyes of most electrical codes anything under 50V Open Circuit allegedly is "intrinsically safe". It's a nice fiction, you keep right on believing that... You still have to be careful with DC welding current power systems, but not quite as careful as with higher voltages. It won't actively jump out and bite you, but you still don't want to be creating shorts on purpose. And TIG welding current with AC "high frequency" imposed on it as an arc-starter WILL zap you but good if you get bit. And where are you? There are local surplus aerospace and electrical stores all over that would have used and "New Old Stock" connectors like that, but this is an item you'll have to go in and 'put your hands on' to make sure it will work for your application. -- Bruce -- Or buy some brass stock and a #1 MT reamer and make something very close for pennies Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Gotcha, Thanks.
j/b "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:02:19 -0600, "jusme" wrote: Gunner, That is a good idea. However, I thought those sockets were somewhat tapered. No matter, as I could taper them. j/b 1MT is tapered. Gunner "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:44:17 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:56:21 -0600, "jusme" wrote: I am looking for a 'number' of Miller Thunderbolt round receptacles in any colors. Yes, I can buy new but I need quite a few for a project that isn't worth new prices. What 'receptacles' are you looking for - that's a rather vague description - the ones for the welding leads on the control panel? You might have better luck if you can ID them by OE manufacturer and size or style, say 'Tweco 200-amp' or such. Most of them are generic, with exceptions. And what are you doing with them? They used to use live-front pin and socket connectors like that all the time on stage lighting dimmer control and patch bays, even in schools - then they decided it was unsafe, and banned their use on most Class 1 "high-voltage" uses. (They still get used on portable theatrical lighting power systems, but they only get touched by trained electricians and are constantly supervised by same whenever energized.) Welding is Class 2 "low-voltage", in the eyes of most electrical codes anything under 50V Open Circuit allegedly is "intrinsically safe". It's a nice fiction, you keep right on believing that... You still have to be careful with DC welding current power systems, but not quite as careful as with higher voltages. It won't actively jump out and bite you, but you still don't want to be creating shorts on purpose. And TIG welding current with AC "high frequency" imposed on it as an arc-starter WILL zap you but good if you get bit. And where are you? There are local surplus aerospace and electrical stores all over that would have used and "New Old Stock" connectors like that, but this is an item you'll have to go in and 'put your hands on' to make sure it will work for your application. -- Bruce -- Or buy some brass stock and a #1 MT reamer and make something very close for pennies Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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