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Ebay fraud...
I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated
stud gun. After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. Within minutes, I paid via paypal and waited for it to arrive so I could put it to work. About 5 days later, I got a Paypal notice that my money had been refunded, with a followup email from the sender that she had shipped it to another buyer (of another stud gun she alleged to have sold) by accident, and he was refusing to answer her email messages to send it back. Ok..accidents h appen. I told her I might be interested in the one she sold to him, that was not shipped. Then I started looking at her completed auctions to see what kind it was. Odd...no other stud guns were sold by her.... within 30 days of the one I won. I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. Damn..it was a nice one and one Im unlikely to find again for a price I can afford. Same as the last 2 items others have played catchme****me with. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. /rant off Gunner |
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On Feb 27, 2:57*pm, Gunner wrote:
I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated stud gun. *After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. Within minutes, I paid via paypal and waited for it to arrive so I could put it to work. About 5 days later, I got a Paypal notice that my money had been refunded, with a followup email from the sender that she had shipped it to another buyer (of another stud gun she alleged to have sold) by accident, and he was refusing to answer her email messages to send it back. Ok..accidents h appen. I told her I might be interested in the one she sold to him, that was not shipped. Then I started looking at her completed auctions to see what kind it was. Odd...no other stud guns were sold by her.... within 30 days of the one I won. I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. Damn..it was a nice one and one Im unlikely to find again for a price I can afford. *Same as the last 2 items others have *played catchme****me with. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. /rant off Gunner My guess is that other Ebayers are emailing the seller with higher offers for the item. It happens ALL THE TIME. Count yourself lucky that you got your money back...many times buyers do not. You are a smart one to realize that Ebay is not the one stop shopping spot for stuff...yes pawn shops have their place in our tool buying universe. The problem is that many pawn shops now use Ebay as their baseline as to what items are worth. Other sources like garage sales, estate sales and private sales also are using Ebay for pricing baselines. The good old days of local used tool bargains are gone. TMT |
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"Gunner" wrote in message ... I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated stud gun. After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. Within minutes, I paid via paypal and waited for it to arrive so I could put it to work. About 5 days later, I got a Paypal notice that my money had been refunded, with a followup email from the sender that she had shipped it to another buyer (of another stud gun she alleged to have sold) by accident, and he was refusing to answer her email messages to send it back. Ok..accidents h appen. I told her I might be interested in the one she sold to him, that was not shipped. Then I started looking at her completed auctions to see what kind it was. Odd...no other stud guns were sold by her.... within 30 days of the one I won. I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. Damn..it was a nice one and one Im unlikely to find again for a price I can afford. Same as the last 2 items others have played catchme****me with. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. /rant off Gunner Virtually all her other feedback is for selling shoes. Chances are, she was selling for someone else who decided it went too cheap and refused to sell it. Despicable behavior, but she's probably in a trick bag. Paul K. Dickman |
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On Feb 27, 6:56*pm, cavelamb himself wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote: Broken glass....at Ebay prices. I hear crude oil is at an all time high too. TMT For the second time this year! ANd it's still only February... Hang on to your wallet...we will easily see $4 gas and likely will see $5 with a year. Hmmm...I wonder what that will do to the price of vaseline. TMT |
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On Feb 27, 7:46*pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:56:17 -0600, cavelamb himself wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: Broken glass....at Ebay prices. I hear crude oil is at an all time high too. TMT For the second time this year! ANd it's still only February... *I just bought some software - and got a message today that their supplier made a mistake and didn't ship it to them - did I want a refund or did I want to wait a week. Figured I've gone more than a week without it, I'll wait and let them sweat. -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Many times sellers will wait for a group of orders before buying in bulk to get a discount. Not enough orders...make up some excuse to the buyers about the big bad supplier. ;) TMT |
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On 2008-02-27, Grant Erwin wrote:
Awhile ago I bid and won a Miller Trailblazer for a spectacular price. Then I got an email from ebay saying they canceled the auction. Sheesh. Probably was a scam auction, the seller would have probably asked you to wire money via Western Union. I saw these auctions for fake Trailblazers. It was "local" to me. I asked the seller if I can pick locally and got a bunch of BS how "he is in Spain on business" but how he "would ship it to me for free". i |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:16:32 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
wrote: On Feb 27, 6:56Â*pm, cavelamb himself wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: Broken glass....at Ebay prices. I hear crude oil is at an all time high too. TMT For the second time this year! ANd it's still only February... Hang on to your wallet...we will easily see $4 gas and likely will see $5 with a year. Hmmm...I wonder what that will do to the price of vaseline. TMT We will see $4 gas????? I only wish. $4.12 per US Gallon of 87 octane yesterday when I filled up the Mystique. Down to $4.03 this morning. Tomorrow? Who knows. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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SteveB wrote:
I hear crude oil is at an all time high too. TMT For the second time this year! ANd it's still only February... Hang on to your wallet...we will easily see $4 gas and likely will see $5 with a year. Hmmm...I wonder what that will do to the price of vaseline. TMT We will see $4 gas????? I only wish. $4.12 per US Gallon of 87 octane yesterday when I filled up the Mystique. Down to $4.03 this morning. Tomorrow? Who knows. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I hope it goes up to $8 a gallon, and gets rid of a lot of the riff raff that are driving around. The only ones left will be the rich, and the illegals because they drive stolen cars and pay nothing for insurance. Leaves them more dinero por petrol. Steve I've seen some foolish stuff written here, but you rung the bell, Steveie. The riff raff includes the delivery trucks that bring the world to your door (spelled supermarket). $20 a pound for coffee $10 a gallon for milk - only slightly soured while waiting. $5 a loaf for bread - onlu because it's baked locally. And that's just the beginning. Of the end. |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:42:30 -0600, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote: /rant off Gunner Virtually all her other feedback is for selling shoes. Chances are, she was selling for someone else who decided it went too cheap and refused to sell it. Despicable behavior, but she's probably in a trick bag. Paul K. Dickman Didnt see any other nail guns either did you? Got an email back tonight.....fascinating First email from them.... "i am so sorry i had a single shot stud gun for sale last week and apparently shipped him your gun by mistake, he has received the gun but will not respond to my emails. i am going to refund your money today and if he returns the gun i will email you and the ship it priority mail for free. sorry for the delay but i was hoping to get back and get it to you. thanks dee" ******* My response "Damnit. Sigh..I really wanted that gun too. Hang on to the money for another week or so, and maybe the clown will finally respond. What was the other gun you had for sale? I assume you still have it? Perhaps I could use it. Doesnt bother me if its single shot or not, as long as it has a trigger." Gunner ******* Then I went digging for that other nail gun on their completed auctions...didnt find it..got to pondering it..... I sent a second email the next day.... "Im wondering if you got my email about the nail gun that you didnt ship to the other fellow. Oddly enough...I checked your finished auctions and didnt find any nail guns sold in the last 30 days as you claimed. So either you are using more than one seller account, or are blowing smoke. As I indicated, if you cannot get the nail gun I won, back, Id be interested in the one you didnt ship by mistake. If there really isnt another nail gun, and you lied to me, expect some seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay for non-performance. Id really hate to think that you figured it sold too low, so decided to send the payment back and sell it elsewhere. Now you have great feedback, so I doubt if you are that sort of person. On the other hand..its happened twice to me before on ebay. I saw the "lost" item show up 6 months later, from the same seller in one case. Im just a good ol boy, with great feedback myself, and quite reasonable. Ill be waiting for your response with interest." - gunnerasch ******* Their response tonight after a 3 day delay.... "HONESTLY GOOD OLD BOYS MUST BE DIFFERENT WHERE YOUR FROM, I CONSIDER MYSELF 1 AND IDE REALIZE I WASNT OUT A DIME. I APOLOGIZED FOR THE MISTAKE AND YES I HAVE 3 DAUGHTERS IN COLLEGE WITH ACCOUNTS TO MAKE SOME SPENDING MONEY. I WOULD ASSUME THE OTHER PERSON TO BE HONEST AND NOT LIE OVER A STINKING $20. TO SEND THIS SINGLE SHOT TO YOU IN PLACE OF THE NEW GUN YOU PURCHASED WOULD BE A RIP OFF. THEN TO THREATEN MY FEEDBACK WHEN YOU REALLY HAVE NO DAMAGES SEEMS PETTY. LEAVE THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH AS WILL I. I IMAGEN YOU WILL LOOK AT YOUS LONGER THAN MY DAUGHTER." ******* My response tonight.... "Finally..a response. I was wondering. Now what was that single shot stud gun? As I indicated...with your high feedback, I didnt think yall were that sort of people. However..as I also said..its happened twice already with other people with equally high feedback. So when I DIDNT see any other stud gun in your completed auctions...shrug..can you blame me for thinking such a nasty thing was possible..not that it had happened..but possible? Now you realize Ive not yet left any feedback? If I was convinced yall had played funny...any doubt Id have would have? Its called "benefit of the doubt" at least so far. Now what was that other stud gun you sold? Still dont see it on your completed sales list. Shrug..I might be interested. Btw....Im self employed..so really do appreciate people trying to make a buck, rather than than whining. Good for you for doing the Ebay thing!" Gunner ******* Shrug...ebay..ya takes yar chances..... Gunner |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:52:48 -0500, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message .. . I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated stud gun. After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. Within minutes, I paid via paypal and waited for it to arrive so I could put it to work. About 5 days later, I got a Paypal notice that my money had been refunded, with a followup email from the sender that she had shipped it to another buyer (of another stud gun she alleged to have sold) by accident, and he was refusing to answer her email messages to send it back. Ok..accidents h appen. I told her I might be interested in the one she sold to him, that was not shipped. Then I started looking at her completed auctions to see what kind it was. Odd...no other stud guns were sold by her.... within 30 days of the one I won. I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. Damn..it was a nice one and one Im unlikely to find again for a price I can afford. Same as the last 2 items others have played catchme****me with. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. /rant off Gunner Don't you just hate all that sand in the Vaseline? Indeed. Gunner |
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On Feb 27, 10:06*pm, cavelamb himself wrote:
SteveB wrote: I hear crude oil is at an all time high too. TMT For the second time this year! ANd it's still only February... Hang on to your wallet...we will easily see $4 gas and likely will see $5 with a year. If you guys know gasoline will go to $5 bucks a gallon why don't you buy stock in a reputable oil company. Play the futures market, buy an interest in an oil well. Drill your own well. Stop the bitching and try to make some money on a sure thing.If you are sure. Who is going to stop YOU. You live in a "free" country. There are many ways to profit from high crude prices....... Yes I have production. The real enemy is the falling dollar. Not high fuel prices. The US will probably end up like most any country south of the rio grande in the 80's. Scott in Texas |
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clare at snyder.on.ca wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:16:32 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools wrote: On Feb 27, 6:56 pm, cavelamb himself wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: Broken glass....at Ebay prices. I hear crude oil is at an all time high too. TMT For the second time this year! ANd it's still only February... Hang on to your wallet...we will easily see $4 gas and likely will see $5 with a year. Hmmm...I wonder what that will do to the price of vaseline. TMT We will see $4 gas????? I only wish. $4.12 per US Gallon of 87 octane yesterday when I filled up the Mystique. Down to $4.03 this morning. Tomorrow? Who knows. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I hope it goes up to $8 a gallon, and gets rid of a lot of the riff raff that are driving around. The only ones left will be the rich, and the illegals because they drive stolen cars and pay nothing for insurance. Leaves them more dinero por petrol. Steve |
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Gunner wrote:
Their response tonight after a 3 day delay.... LEAVE THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH AS WILL I. There it is. The blatant threat - neg me, I'll neg you. That's exactly why ebay is discontinuing allowing sellers to leave feedback. Do I think what ebay's moving to is the correct solution? No. I think the seller should be forced to leave feedback first. Grant |
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Gunner wrote:
... she seemed like a very nice [seller] and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Some sellers consider 100% positive feedback necessary and will go to extremes like leaving a negative in response to a buyer's neutral feedback, just so they can coerce the buyer to remove the feedback with them. Fortunately eBay is changing the rules. Soon buyers will be able to leave neutral or negative feedback for sellers and the sellers will not be able to retaliate. So now we'll be able to see what other buyers have to say about a seller, so we can make an informed judgment about whether that seller is right for us. Very much looking forward to the new eBay feedback. /rant off Gunner |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
wrote: If you guys know gasoline will go to $5 bucks a gallon why don't you buy stock in a reputable oil company. Play the futures market, buy an interest in an oil well. Drill your own well. Stop the bitching and try to make some money on a sure thing.If you are sure. Who is going to stop YOU. You live in a "free" country. There are many ways to profit from high crude prices....... Yes I have production. The real enemy is the falling dollar. Not high fuel prices. The US will probably end up like most any country south of the rio grande in the 80's. Scott in Texas Complete blather. There isn't much oil in Florida. All you'll do is pollute the Aquifer, and maybe run the drill through a cave diver. There is also the matter of mineral rights. Make a lot of money - while the dolar is in free fall? Yep, that makes sense... |
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On Feb 27, 10:39*pm, wrote:
On Feb 27, 10:06*pm, cavelamb himself wrote: SteveB wrote: I hear crude oil is at an all time high too. TMT For the second time this year! ANd it's still only February... Hang on to your wallet...we will easily see $4 gas and likely will see $5 with a year. If you guys know gasoline will go to $5 bucks a gallon why don't *you buy stock in a reputable oil company. Play the futures market, buy an interest in an oil well. Drill your own well. Stop the bitching and try to make some money on a sure thing.If you are sure. Who is going to stop YOU. You live in a "free" country. There are many ways to profit from high crude prices....... Yes I have production. The real enemy is the falling dollar. Not high fuel prices. The US will probably end up like most any country south of the rio grande in the 80's. Scott in Texas I have...and have made LOTS of money. In fact betting against Bush has made me LOTS AND LOTS of money. Sometimes there is a sure thing.... TMT |
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The same thing recently happened to me on 75 ft of braided 3/4" hose. I left
a nuetral feedback in the end. She stated that there had been a theft and returned my money. I did not believe this. Steve "Gunner" wrote in message ... I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated stud gun. After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. Within minutes, I paid via paypal and waited for it to arrive so I could put it to work. About 5 days later, I got a Paypal notice that my money had been refunded, with a followup email from the sender that she had shipped it to another buyer (of another stud gun she alleged to have sold) by accident, and he was refusing to answer her email messages to send it back. Ok..accidents h appen. I told her I might be interested in the one she sold to him, that was not shipped. Then I started looking at her completed auctions to see what kind it was. Odd...no other stud guns were sold by her.... within 30 days of the one I won. I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. Damn..it was a nice one and one Im unlikely to find again for a price I can afford. Same as the last 2 items others have played catchme****me with. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. /rant off Gunner |
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On 2008-02-28, nick hull wrote:
In article , wrote: The real enemy is the falling dollar. Not high fuel prices. The US will probably end up like most any country south of the rio grande in the 80's. It's really rare to find someone who understands the problem. Hard to find solutions if you can't find the correct problem. Except that he did not properly identify the "root" problem. The "root" problem is too much spending and not too much taxing. I am glad I have part of myf amily savings in Euros. i |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:50:00 -0800, "SteveB" meagain@rockvilleUSA
wrote: I hope it goes up to $8 a gallon, and gets rid of a lot of the riff raff that are driving around. The only ones left will be the rich, and the illegals because they drive stolen cars and pay nothing for insurance. Leaves them more dinero por petrol. $8 a gallon is nowhere near enough to achieve your targets -- Mike - regularly paying the equivalent US$7.75 per US gallon in the UK |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Feb 27, 3:52 pm, Rex wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: On Feb 27, 2:57 pm, Gunner wrote: I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated stud gun. After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. Within minutes, I paid via paypal and waited for it to arrive so I could put it to work. About 5 days later, I got a Paypal notice that my money had been refunded, with a followup email from the sender that she had shipped it to another buyer (of another stud gun she alleged to have sold) by accident, and he was refusing to answer her email messages to send it back. Ok..accidents h appen. I told her I might be interested in the one she sold to him, that was not shipped. Then I started looking at her completed auctions to see what kind it was. Odd...no other stud guns were sold by her.... within 30 days of the one I won. I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. Damn..it was a nice one and one Im unlikely to find again for a price I can afford. Same as the last 2 items others have played catchme****me with. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. /rant off Gunner My guess is that other Ebayers are emailing the seller with higher offers for the item. It happens ALL THE TIME. Count yourself lucky that you got your money back...many times buyers do not. You are a smart one to realize that Ebay is not the one stop shopping spot for stuff...yes pawn shops have their place in our tool buying universe. The problem is that many pawn shops now use Ebay as their baseline as to what items are worth. Other sources like garage sales, estate sales and private sales also are using Ebay for pricing baselines. The good old days of local used tool bargains are gone. I have seen the same thing. Garage and especially estate sale people are using ebay as a pricing guide. I recognize that pretty quickly and head back to the car. If they want ebay prices they need to post on ebay. I have better luck in older working-class neighborhoods where retired people are selling off a lifetime's worth of junk so their heirs won't have to mess with it. They are less likely to be web-active so some bargains can be found. And I've been known to pay more than the marked price if something was way underpriced and the people were nice.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I see it all the time. I politely tell them that if they want Ebay prices that they should post it there. Then of course they will have to pay Ebay fees and deal with the risks/ hassles associated with online selling. and packing, and shipping.... |
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Gunner wrote:
I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. Yeah, unfortunately, my only advice is "get used to it"! It is a shame that eBay has gone from a nice community of guys swapping stuff to a bunch of shlock outfits selling 14,000 scrap items a month for whatever they can get. The business of setting $50 shipping on a pair of cufflinks or something is really a scandal, and eBay has not done a DAMN THING about it, even though it is expressly done to CHEAT them! I can't figure that one out. There are a bunch of outfits selling salvage, pawned, returned, shop-worn, etc. items as "Brand-new, tested, 100% OK". Something like 25-50% of their items have something serious wrong with them. Just read the feedback and it is apalling. Some of them are getting hundreds of negatives a month, but if they also can just get a few more positives than negatives, eBay considers that OK. I built up my shop with a bunch of used gear on eBay, but I am getting MUCH more cautious lately. It has gotten to the point that I don't want to sell my own products on eBay because of the "taint"! I still buy stuff on eBay, but have had problems with a substantial number of the items recently, all computer-related stuff, not shop tools. Jon |
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I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated stud gun. After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. I've had a couple auctions where seller cancelled when I when my bid was on low side for item but I was highest bidder. That ****es me off since ebay considers my bid as a contract but sellors offer to sell as non binding. Wes |
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Ignoramus6682 wrote: On 2008-02-28, nick hull wrote: In article , wrote: The real enemy is the falling dollar. Not high fuel prices. The US will probably end up like most any country south of the rio grande in the 80's. It's really rare to find someone who understands the problem. Hard to find solutions if you can't find the correct problem. Except that he did not properly identify the "root" problem. The "root" problem is too much spending and not too much taxing. The REAL root problem is unqualified voters electing hack politicians. I am glad I have part of myf amily savings in Euros. You will wish it were in gold before the cycle ends Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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nick hull wrote:
In article , Ignoramus6682 wrote: On 2008-02-28, nick hull wrote: In article , wrote: The real enemy is the falling dollar. Not high fuel prices. The US will probably end up like most any country south of the rio grande in the 80's. It's really rare to find someone who understands the problem. Hard to find solutions if you can't find the correct problem. Except that he did not properly identify the "root" problem. The "root" problem is too much spending and not too much taxing. The REAL root problem is unqualified voters electing hack politicians. I am glad I have part of myf amily savings in Euros. You will wish it were in gold before the cycle ends Heck, I already do. close to $1000/oz |
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On Feb 28, 1:58*am, "Steve Lusardi" wrote:
The same thing recently happened to me on 75 ft of braided 3/4" hose. I left a nuetral feedback in the end. She stated that there had been a theft and returned my money. I did not believe this. Steve"Gunner" wrote in message ... I recently bid on and won a nice Ramset semiautomatic powder actuated stud gun. *After bidding on a ****load and losing, I got this one very cheaply for some reason. $19, About half or less than normally sold for on ebay. Total with inflated shipping was about $50. Within minutes, I paid via paypal and waited for it to arrive so I could put it to work. About 5 days later, I got a Paypal notice that my money had been refunded, with a followup email from the sender that she had shipped it to another buyer (of another stud gun she alleged to have sold) by accident, and he was refusing to answer her email messages to send it back. Ok..accidents h appen. I told her I might be interested in the one she sold to him, that was not shipped. Then I started looking at her completed auctions to see what kind it was. Odd...no other stud guns were sold by her.... within 30 days of the one I won. I emailed her a second time, making mention that it would be a shame for her to get a seriously negative feedback and a complaint to Ebay, if she had decided it didnt sell for what she thought it should have, and was playing games, but she seemed like a very nice lady and wouldnt stoop that low, with her 100% positive feedback rating to date. I told her Id wait a bit before leaving feedback. Ive not as of yet left her any feedback. Ill wait a week or so more. Still no response from her on the last email yet. I know I have no recourse, of course. She returned the money. But this is the 3rd time this sort of thing has happened to me in the last year..and Im a bit ****ed off. Damn..it was a nice one and one Im unlikely to find again for a price I can afford. *Same as the last 2 items others have *played catchme****me with. With the increases in "shipping"..its getting to be cheaper to haunt pawn shops than buy on ebay. /rant off Gunner- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ask for a copy of the police report? TMT |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:57:16 -0800, Gunner wrote: Needless to say, I closed my Ebay account and will NEVER use Ebay again....... all this bad experience - that's amazing - I've had several thousand ebay transactions I suppose, some buying and some selling - I've encountered a couple of unreasonable buyers who left bad feedback, and a couple of times I've been disappointed in what I bought, but either it was a gamble I knowingly took, or I reached an accommodation with the seller except for one case - why do you guys have so many more bad experiences? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Feb 29, 12:24*am, "William Noble" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:57:16 -0800, Gunner wrote: Needless to say, I closed my Ebay account and will NEVER use Ebay again....... all this bad experience - that's amazing - I've had several thousand ebay transactions I suppose, some buying and some selling - I've encountered a couple of unreasonable buyers who left bad feedback, and a couple of times I've been disappointed in what I bought, but either it was a gamble I knowingly took, or I reached an accommodation with the seller except for one case - why do you guys have so many more bad experiences? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com I have been on Ebay for over ten years....and the majority of my transactions have been positive. But I do have to say the the ones in the last year or so have been less favorable....and some just down right dishonest. I consider this has caught up with Ebay and the reason behind some of their changes....when the buyers stay away, revenues drop. TMT |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:15:22 -0600, Rex wrote:
nick hull wrote: You will wish it were in gold before the cycle ends Heck, I already do. close to $1000/oz But, as the US dollar is virtually worthless it's still dirt cheap overseas -- |
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