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WASHINGTON (AP) — Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a
third-party candidate, criticizing the top White House contenders as too
close to big business and pledging to repeat a bid that will “shift the
power from the few to the many.”

Nader, 73, said most people are disenchanted with the Democratic and
Republican parties due to a prolonged Iraq war and a shaky economy. The
consumer advocate also blamed tax and other corporate-friendly policies
under the Bush administration that he said have left many lower- and
middle-class people in debt.

“You take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut out,
marginalized and disrespected,” he said. “You go from Iraq, to Palestine
to Israel, from Enron to Wall Street, from Katrina to the bumbling of
the Bush administration, to the complicity of the Democrats in not
stopping him on the war, stopping him on the tax cuts.”

“In that context, I have decided to run for president,” Nader told NBC’s
“Meet the Press.”

Nader also criticized Republican candidate John McCain and Democrats
Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton for failing to support full
Medicare for all or cracking down on Pentagon waste and a “bloated
military budget. He blamed that on corporate lobbyists and special
interests, which he said dominate Washington, D.C., and pledged in his
third-party campaign to accept donations only from individuals.

“The issue is do they have the moral courage, do they have the fortitude
to stand up to corporate powers and get things done for the American
people,” Nader said. “We have to shift the power from the few to the many.”

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, speaking shortly before
Nader’s announcement, said Nader’s past runs have shown that he usually
pulls votes from the Democratic nominee. “So naturally, Republicans
would welcome his entry into the race,” the former Arkansas governor
said on CNN.

Nader also ran as a third-party candidate in the 2000 and 2004
presidential elections. He is still loathed by many Democrats who call
him a spoiler and claim his candidacy in 2000 cost the party the
election by siphoning votes away from Al Gore in a razor-thin contest in
Florida. Nader vociferously disputes the spoiler claim, saying only
Democrats are to blame for losing the race to George W. Bush.

Though he won 2.7 percent of the national vote as the Green Party
candidate in 2000, his percentage dropped to just 0.3 percent as an
independent in 2004, when he appeared on the ballot in only 34 states.

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http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/...for-president/


WASHINGTON (AP) — Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a
third-party candidate...


Oh cripes, here come the spoilers. 'Think we can get Ron Paul to run as a
Libertarian again, to balance Nader out? d8-)

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Oh cripes, here come the spoilers. 'Think we can get Ron Paul to run as a
Libertarian again, to balance Nader out? d8-)


I believe he said he wouldn't. Wonder if Nader will get competition from
Bloomberg? There must not be a litmus test for a Republican in NYC.

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http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/...un-for-preside
nt/


WASHINGTON (AP) — Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a
third-party candidate...


Oh cripes, here come the spoilers. 'Think we can get Ron Paul to run as a
Libertarian again, to balance Nader out? d8-)


I hope so, I would hate to vote for Nader but the others are worse ;(

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a
third-party candidate,




Nader is an old has-been ! Not worth the time wasting a ballot on the old
fool.


criticizing the top White House contenders as too
close to big business and pledging to repeat a bid that will “shift the
power from the few to the many.”

Nader, 73, said most people are disenchanted with the Democratic and
Republican parties due to a prolonged Iraq war and a shaky economy. The
consumer advocate also blamed tax and other corporate-friendly policies
under the Bush administration that he said have left many lower- and
middle-class people in debt.

“You take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut out,
marginalized and disrespected,” he said. “You go from Iraq, to Palestine
to Israel, from Enron to Wall Street, from Katrina to the bumbling of the
Bush administration, to the complicity of the Democrats in not stopping
him on the war, stopping him on the tax cuts.”

“In that context, I have decided to run for president,” Nader told NBC’s
“Meet the Press.”

Nader also criticized Republican candidate John McCain and Democrats
Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton for failing to support full
Medicare for all or cracking down on Pentagon waste and a “bloated
military budget. He blamed that on corporate lobbyists and special
interests, which he said dominate Washington, D.C., and pledged in his
third-party campaign to accept donations only from individuals.

“The issue is do they have the moral courage, do they have the fortitude
to stand up to corporate powers and get things done for the American
people,” Nader said. “We have to shift the power from the few to the
many.”

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, speaking shortly before
Nader’s announcement, said Nader’s past runs have shown that he usually
pulls votes from the Democratic nominee. “So naturally, Republicans would
welcome his entry into the race,” the former Arkansas governor said on
CNN.

Nader also ran as a third-party candidate in the 2000 and 2004
presidential elections. He is still loathed by many Democrats who call him
a spoiler and claim his candidacy in 2000 cost the party the election by
siphoning votes away from Al Gore in a razor-thin contest in Florida.
Nader vociferously disputes the spoiler claim, saying only Democrats are
to blame for losing the race to George W. Bush.

Though he won 2.7 percent of the national vote as the Green Party
candidate in 2000, his percentage dropped to just 0.3 percent as an
independent in 2004, when he appeared on the ballot in only 34 states.




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Nader is an old has-been ! Not worth the time wasting a ballot on the old
fool.


Voting for Nader has one good point; you KNOW he will never be elected

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