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manufacturing in Germany.
F. George McDuffee wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:36:08 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: We'd be brought up before the WTO and be fined billions of dollars. So would Germany. ============ Actually I think this is the situation in most EEC countries with the "value added tax." It is commonly rebated when goods are exported and charged when goods are imported. Yeah, I just sold some stuff to a guy in Belgium, and FedEx bills me later for the VAT/duties, etc. I was shocked to get the bill for 23%! Since I get these bills a month or more after the shipment, I can't bill for it in advance, so I take a bath on this stuff! I may have to just double my price for sales to the EU! Jon |
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Jon Elson wrote:
F. George McDuffee wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:36:08 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: We'd be brought up before the WTO and be fined billions of dollars. So would Germany. ============ Actually I think this is the situation in most EEC countries with the "value added tax." It is commonly rebated when goods are exported and charged when goods are imported. Yeah, I just sold some stuff to a guy in Belgium, and FedEx bills me later for the VAT/duties, etc. I was shocked to get the bill for 23%! Since I get these bills a month or more after the shipment, I can't bill for it in advance, so I take a bath on this stuff! I may have to just double my price for sales to the EU! Jon I can't see why you should have to pay any VAT or duties. In my experience of buying from the US I am the one who pays the VAT and duties as applied by the UK customs. I would strongly ask FedEx why you are being asked to pay the bill rather than the purchaser. |
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David Billington wrote:
Jon Elson wrote: F. George McDuffee wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:36:08 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: We'd be brought up before the WTO and be fined billions of dollars. So would Germany. ============ Actually I think this is the situation in most EEC countries with the "value added tax." It is commonly rebated when goods are exported and charged when goods are imported. Yeah, I just sold some stuff to a guy in Belgium, and FedEx bills me later for the VAT/duties, etc. I was shocked to get the bill for 23%! Since I get these bills a month or more after the shipment, I can't bill for it in advance, so I take a bath on this stuff! I may have to just double my price for sales to the EU! Jon I can't see why you should have to pay any VAT or duties. In my experience of buying from the US I am the one who pays the VAT and duties as applied by the UK customs. I would strongly ask FedEx why you are being asked to pay the bill rather than the purchaser. If the purchaser declines to pay the duties and the purchaser does not have a FedEx account, FedEx will charge the shipper. FedEx pays the duties at the time the goods clear customs, so they have to get the money from somewhere. We got bit to the tune of about $3000 this way. Luckily, the customer needed to do repeat business with us and after about 3 months, ponied up the money. The best solution is to have your customer open a Fedex account and then ship it with duties on them. |
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:08:20 -0800, Jim Stewart
wrote: David Billington wrote: Jon Elson wrote: F. George McDuffee wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:36:08 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: We'd be brought up before the WTO and be fined billions of dollars. So would Germany. ============ Actually I think this is the situation in most EEC countries with the "value added tax." It is commonly rebated when goods are exported and charged when goods are imported. Yeah, I just sold some stuff to a guy in Belgium, and FedEx bills me later for the VAT/duties, etc. I was shocked to get the bill for 23%! Since I get these bills a month or more after the shipment, I can't bill for it in advance, so I take a bath on this stuff! I may have to just double my price for sales to the EU! Jon I can't see why you should have to pay any VAT or duties. In my experience of buying from the US I am the one who pays the VAT and duties as applied by the UK customs. I would strongly ask FedEx why you are being asked to pay the bill rather than the purchaser. If the purchaser declines to pay the duties and the purchaser does not have a FedEx account, FedEx will charge the shipper. FedEx pays the duties at the time the goods clear customs, so they have to get the money from somewhere. We got bit to the tune of about $3000 this way. Luckily, the customer needed to do repeat business with us and after about 3 months, ponied up the money. The best solution is to have your customer open a Fedex account and then ship it with duties on them. It takes only a couple of minutes to open a Fedex air account-- just a valid CC. Fedex ground is a lot more trouble. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Jim Stewart wrote:
David Billington wrote: Jon Elson wrote: F. George McDuffee wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:36:08 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: We'd be brought up before the WTO and be fined billions of dollars. So would Germany. ============ Actually I think this is the situation in most EEC countries with the "value added tax." It is commonly rebated when goods are exported and charged when goods are imported. Yeah, I just sold some stuff to a guy in Belgium, and FedEx bills me later for the VAT/duties, etc. I was shocked to get the bill for 23%! Since I get these bills a month or more after the shipment, I can't bill for it in advance, so I take a bath on this stuff! I may have to just double my price for sales to the EU! Jon I can't see why you should have to pay any VAT or duties. In my experience of buying from the US I am the one who pays the VAT and duties as applied by the UK customs. I would strongly ask FedEx why you are being asked to pay the bill rather than the purchaser. If the purchaser declines to pay the duties and the purchaser does not have a FedEx account, FedEx will charge the shipper. FedEx pays the duties at the time the goods clear customs, so they have to get the money from somewhere. We got bit to the tune of about $3000 this way. Luckily, the customer needed to do repeat business with us and after about 3 months, ponied up the money. The best solution is to have your customer open a Fedex account and then ship it with duties on them. OK I wasn't aware I could refuse to pay the VAT and duties bill at my end. I can't remember what happened with the UPS delivery but DHL delivered some goods from the US promptly and then billed me the VAT and duties about 2 months later, I just paid up, as I was expecting to pay some extra. The Belgian guy may have been savvy and refused to pay up but that is not playing ball. On a few occasions I have gotten stuff from the US and Australia via the UK postal service and in that case when moneys are due I had to go to the sorting office and pay up before getting the items, no money no goods. |
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:49:47 +0000, David Billington
wrote: Jim Stewart wrote: David Billington wrote: Jon Elson wrote: F. George McDuffee wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:36:08 -0500, "Ed Huntress" wrote: We'd be brought up before the WTO and be fined billions of dollars. So would Germany. ============ Actually I think this is the situation in most EEC countries with the "value added tax." It is commonly rebated when goods are exported and charged when goods are imported. Yeah, I just sold some stuff to a guy in Belgium, and FedEx bills me later for the VAT/duties, etc. I was shocked to get the bill for 23%! Since I get these bills a month or more after the shipment, I can't bill for it in advance, so I take a bath on this stuff! I may have to just double my price for sales to the EU! Jon I can't see why you should have to pay any VAT or duties. In my experience of buying from the US I am the one who pays the VAT and duties as applied by the UK customs. I would strongly ask FedEx why you are being asked to pay the bill rather than the purchaser. If the purchaser declines to pay the duties and the purchaser does not have a FedEx account, FedEx will charge the shipper. FedEx pays the duties at the time the goods clear customs, so they have to get the money from somewhere. We got bit to the tune of about $3000 this way. Luckily, the customer needed to do repeat business with us and after about 3 months, ponied up the money. The best solution is to have your customer open a Fedex account and then ship it with duties on them. OK I wasn't aware I could refuse to pay the VAT and duties bill at my end. I can't remember what happened with the UPS delivery but DHL delivered some goods from the US promptly and then billed me the VAT and duties about 2 months later, I just paid up, as I was expecting to pay some extra. The Belgian guy may have been savvy and refused to pay up but that is not playing ball. On a few occasions I have gotten stuff from the US and Australia via the UK postal service and in that case when moneys are due I had to go to the sorting office and pay up before getting the items, no money no goods. IIRC, there`s a box on the waybill that you check off if you *want* to pay the duties and taxes. If you checked that off... Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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