DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   Metalworking (https://www.diybanter.com/metalworking/)
-   -   metal strength (https://www.diybanter.com/metalworking/229925-metal-strength.html)

[email protected] January 15th 08 06:00 AM

metal strength
 
im a student making a i beam from scratch i need to know the weight i
can hold them without having deflection dimensions are 1/8" steel
3' in the midddle 3' top and bottom if any one has info they can help
plz contact me

Tim Wescott January 15th 08 07:14 AM

metal strength
 
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:00:35 -0800, los730 wrote:

im a student making a i beam from scratch i need to know the weight i
can hold them without having deflection dimensions are 1/8" steel 3'
in the midddle 3' top and bottom if any one has info they can help plz
contact me


Zero, zip, nada, none.

Add one extra hydrogen atom to the middle of your beam, and there'll be
some infinitesimal amount of bending to go with it.

You need to ask how much load can you put on for a certain amount of
deflection. You also need to specify the length of the beam and how the
ends are supported. Finally, do you really mean three _feet_, as in
almost one meter?

--
Tim Wescott
Control systems and communications consulting
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Need to learn how to apply control theory in your embedded system?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" by Tim Wescott
Elsevier/Newnes, http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

Grumpy January 15th 08 08:48 AM

metal strength
 

If you are an ENGINEERING student, get off your arse and do some research.
Google for " beam deflection" and you should be able to find a plug in
formula to do the job for you. You should know that every beam will have
some deflection, even if very small. Using computer programmes to do
calculations without understanding the basis of the calculation is a recipe
for disaster.




wrote in message
...
im a student making a i beam from scratch i need to know the weight i
can hold them without having deflection dimensions are 1/8" steel
3' in the midddle 3' top and bottom if any one has info they can help
plz contact me




Trevor Jones January 15th 08 01:02 PM

metal strength
 
Grumpy wrote:
If you are an ENGINEERING student, get off your arse and do some research.
Google for " beam deflection" and you should be able to find a plug in
formula to do the job for you. You should know that every beam will have
some deflection, even if very small. Using computer programmes to do
calculations without understanding the basis of the calculation is a recipe
for disaster.


What he said, and ....

Learn to use thge shift key!

Use clear, written out measurements, too.

3 feet by 3 feet?

Learn to cook. It's likely that, or starve!

Cheers
Trevor Jones


Stupendous Man January 15th 08 01:57 PM

metal strength
 
If you are an ENGINEERING student, get off your arse and do some research.

He isn't an English major.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



Jon Elson[_2_] January 15th 08 08:02 PM

metal strength
 


Tim Wescott wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:00:35 -0800, los730 wrote:


im a student making a i beam from scratch i need to know the weight i
can hold them without having deflection dimensions are 1/8" steel 3'
in the midddle 3' top and bottom if any one has info they can help plz
contact me



Zero, zip, nada, none.

Add one extra hydrogen atom to the middle of your beam, and there'll be
some infinitesimal amount of bending to go with it.


Worse, the beam will deflect under its own weight. A thin enough,
long enough beam will collapse under its own weight!

Jon


Christopher Tidy January 15th 08 10:17 PM

metal strength
 
Tim Wescott wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:00:35 -0800, los730 wrote:


im a student making a i beam from scratch i need to know the weight i
can hold them without having deflection dimensions are 1/8" steel 3'
in the midddle 3' top and bottom if any one has info they can help plz
contact me



Zero, zip, nada, none.


Indeed. There's a difference between deflection and visible deflection,
and I imagine it's the latter you're actually concerned about.

Best wishes,

Chris


Bob's my cat January 15th 08 11:34 PM

metal strength
 
On Jan 15, 5:57 am, "Stupendous Man" wrote:
If you are an ENGINEERING student, get off your arse and do some research.


He isn't an English major.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty



As someone else pointed out the units are strange, and the length is
missing, 1/8 inch plate 3 feet wide? buckling will be a big problem,
and simple beam calculations will not be enough. 3 inches might be
believable, that would be about 1/2 as thick in the web and 1/3 in the
flange as a W4x13 (smallest one in the 9th ed. ASD manual)

Actually, he just said "student", I'm guessing middle school, maybe
I'd buy high school if he is not an native English speaker. If he
can't communicate with his boss/team members/the people actually
building things he designs, he won't be working as an engineer.
If he charges a customer for a dozen hamburgers when they order one,
he won't be flipping burgers either. While one does not need to be an
English major, text message speak is doubleplusungood.

Curmudgeonly; Jay

Rich Grise January 16th 08 06:29 PM

metal strength
 
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:48:49 +1100, Grumpy top-posted:

If you are an ENGINEERING student, get off your arse and do some research.
Google for " beam deflection" and you should be able to find a plug in
formula to do the job for you. You should know that every beam will have
some deflection, even if very small. Using computer programmes to do
calculations without understanding the basis of the calculation is a recipe
for disaster.


He's a googlie - he'll never come back to look for answers; he expects
the answer(s) to show up in his email.

On AOL. ?:-/

Thanks,
Rich

wrote in message
...
im a student making a i beam from scratch i need to know the weight i
can hold them without having deflection dimensions are 1/8" steel
3' in the midddle 3' top and bottom if any one has info they can help
plz contact me




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter