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Ivan Vegvary December 30th 07 07:51 PM

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The following tool is for sale at the Harbor. Item No. 46727
(Sorry but I am failing at pasting a workable hyperlink to the item. When I
try to click my own pasted hyperlink, it comes back "item not found".
Advice appreciated).

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46727

This is for sale at my local store for $ 134.99 and we pay no taxes in
Oregon!!

Anyway, anybody have any scoop on this item? Mainly, will I be able to
replace one or both wheels with a diamond wheel? Do diamond wheels come in
a 'bolt-on' configuration with a 1-1/4 inch hole?

BTW, while I own a serious 3hp 3phase pedestal grinder, I have purchased
(years ago) an inexpensive ($29) bench grinder from harbor freight and
dedicated it (obviate contamination) to sharpening my tungsten tig welding
tips. Very happy with this machine. No perceivable run-out. I can shut
the grinder off, go take a 3 minute crap, and when I come back it still
hasn't finished spinning. I'm sure quality varies sample to sample.

Any advice on the above would be appreciated. There are budget
considerations, and, so far I haven't needed one of these tool grinders.
Maybe I don't need one now, but tools ownership is fun!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary







sk December 30th 07 11:55 PM

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On Dec 30, 1:51 pm, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:
The following tool is for sale at the Harbor. Item No. 46727
(Sorry but I am failing at pasting a workable hyperlink to the item. When I
try to click my own pasted hyperlink, it comes back "item not found".
Advice appreciated).

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46727

This is for sale at my local store for $ 134.99 and we pay no taxes in
Oregon!!

Anyway, anybody have any scoop on this item? Mainly, will I be able to
replace one or both wheels with a diamond wheel? Do diamond wheels come in
a 'bolt-on' configuration with a 1-1/4 inch hole?

BTW, while I own a serious 3hp 3phase pedestal grinder, I have purchased
(years ago) an inexpensive ($29) bench grinder from harbor freight and
dedicated it (obviate contamination) to sharpening my tungsten tig welding
tips. Very happy with this machine. No perceivable run-out. I can shut
the grinder off, go take a 3 minute crap, and when I come back it still
hasn't finished spinning. I'm sure quality varies sample to sample.

Any advice on the above would be appreciated. There are budget
considerations, and, so far I haven't needed one of these tool grinders.
Maybe I don't need one now, but tools ownership is fun!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


I bought one 3 years ago, it's very OK for the money, and yes you can
replace the green wheels with diamond wheels. And it has forward and
reverse, the Enco version of this was one direction only. For the
money (I also have the Baldor version of this) I don't think you can
go wrong. There was a thread about this a few months ago, I believe
the poster was disappointed with the quality of the unit on display.

ignator

William Bagwell December 31st 07 12:05 AM

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:51:45 GMT, "Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

(Sorry but I am failing at pasting a workable hyperlink to the item. When I
try to click my own pasted hyperlink, it comes back "item not found".
Advice appreciated).

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46727


Link works for me. Just a guess, but is your news program changing the
"?" between .taf and itemnumber to something else? Have seen non
alpha-numeric characters changed to something weird. Though usually it
is broken for everyone...
--
William

Richard J Kinch December 31st 07 12:51 AM

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Ivan Vegvary writes:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46727


I use the Enco diamond wheel on this with excellent results grinding
carbide tools.

Wes[_2_] December 31st 07 01:25 AM

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"Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

Anyway, anybody have any scoop on this item? Mainly, will I be able to
replace one or both wheels with a diamond wheel? Do diamond wheels come in
a 'bolt-on' configuration with a 1-1/4 inch hole?


Yup. You will likely have to fix up the flange adaptors since the one I saw
at harborfreight had excessive runout. Enco had an email sale not too long
ago for a 150g 75% 1/16 d wheel for under 60 bucks. Likely with enco
lighting will strike again.

Have them get you a box and have a look at it under power before purchasing
it. That was suggested to me earlier in another thread. I passed on buying
one but just about everyone said that it is worth buying if you check it out
before purchase and are willing to do a bit of work getting it right.

Wes


Harold and Susan Vordos December 31st 07 01:38 AM

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"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

Anyway, anybody have any scoop on this item? Mainly, will I be able to
replace one or both wheels with a diamond wheel? Do diamond wheels come
in
a 'bolt-on' configuration with a 1-1/4 inch hole?


Yup. You will likely have to fix up the flange adaptors since the one I
saw
at harborfreight had excessive runout. Enco had an email sale not too
long
ago for a 150g 75% 1/16 d wheel for under 60 bucks. Likely with enco
lighting will strike again.

Have them get you a box and have a look at it under power before
purchasing
it. That was suggested to me earlier in another thread. I passed on
buying
one but just about everyone said that it is worth buying if you check it
out
before purchase and are willing to do a bit of work getting it right.

Wes


What Wes said. It's important that the face of a diamond wheel run true,
otherwise it will wear unevenly, cutting short its useful life, and giving
you no end of grief when grinding. Simply remove the flanges and machine
them so they run true, or add a series of two sets of three set screws set
@ 120 degrees. They will allow you to adjust the fit of the adapter on the
shaft of the motor to achieve perfect alignment.

You can't begin to build a grinder with tables for that kind of money.
Add a small coolant pump to replace the drip system if you want to guild the
lily.

Harold



Paul December 31st 07 05:25 AM

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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
The following tool is for sale at the Harbor. Item No. 46727
(Sorry but I am failing at pasting a workable hyperlink to the item. When I
try to click my own pasted hyperlink, it comes back "item not found".
Advice appreciated).

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46727

This is for sale at my local store for $ 134.99 and we pay no taxes in
Oregon!!

Anyway, anybody have any scoop on this item? Mainly, will I be able to
replace one or both wheels with a diamond wheel? Do diamond wheels come in
a 'bolt-on' configuration with a 1-1/4 inch hole?

BTW, while I own a serious 3hp 3phase pedestal grinder, I have purchased
(years ago) an inexpensive ($29) bench grinder from harbor freight and
dedicated it (obviate contamination) to sharpening my tungsten tig welding
tips. Very happy with this machine. No perceivable run-out. I can shut
the grinder off, go take a 3 minute crap, and when I come back it still
hasn't finished spinning. I'm sure quality varies sample to sample.

Any advice on the above would be appreciated. There are budget
considerations, and, so far I haven't needed one of these tool grinders.
Maybe I don't need one now, but tools ownership is fun!!

Thanks,

Ivan Vegvary


I bought one of these six months ago or so, the advice of other posters
is the same as my experience. Decent machine, tables needed a bit of
fiddling to tune them up, so to speak. Reversible (unlike the Enco
equivalent), which is a handy feature. Mine had one backing plate (the
part the wheel bolts to) with a terrible amount of runout, before I
screwed around boring it out and sleeving it I talked to the Harbor
Freight warranty department and they sent one to me free of charge in
less than a week. The replacement ran under .0015" tir in both planes,
good enough for me, that was about what the other side measured also.

What I'd like to find is a reasonably priced aluminum oxide wheel for
it. I remember running across one in a catalog somewhere but it was
more money than a decent diamond wheel! I'd like to mount the AlO2 on
one side for HSS. I'll be getting a diamond for carbide, the original
silicon carbide wheels get by but could be better.

Regards
Paul


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woodworker88 December 31st 07 07:29 PM

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On Dec 30, 3:55 pm, sk wrote:

And it has forward and
reverse, the Enco version of this was one direction only.


I just bought the Enco one within the last two months, and it does
have both directions, although I hear that previous versions did not.
When I took it out of the package, I said "What am I going to use this
for", but I find that I switch directions pretty frequently when
grinding on both sides of a tool bit, for example.



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