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On 2007-12-27, Don Foreman wrote:
The Tecumseh "winter king" engine starts every time with one pull --
if and only if you maintain the carburetor. They are quite fussy
about that but otherwise about as reliable as gravity. I've rebuilt
the carb on my Toro every 5 years for the past 25 years, that's worked
fer me. The rebuild kit is about 20 bux.


I thought that they are called "snow king".

I have one that I installed on my military surplus snowblower. Starts
very well in cold weather.

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I don't work with it a lot. I have some large pieces that I make into
smaller pieces.
I don't know this for sure what adhesive is used, but i saw a picture
on the internet of a fella working with Corian and guess what I saw in
the background?
West Systems epoxy! A Ha!
Give the guys at Gougan Brothers a call and talk to their technical
department. These guys are fantastic to talk to and they will tell you
for sure.

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Hey Richard, I've seen your pics before. Nice boat.
I had an entire web site with hundreds of pictures but had to get rid
of that I/P. I don't have any pict on the new server yet.
Do you have pics of your boat, Dan?

Mine is;
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/c18-cab.htm#top


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RoyJ wrote:
Lots of projects out in the cold, damp, slushed up shop/garage are
getting ignored for a while. Too much slop brought in by the vehicles to
even fire up the heater, it just gets too humid.

Downstairs shop is toasty warm but pretty small. I can barely get to the
drill press because those 5 boxes of sensors, VFD's, DC motors controls,
relays, and such that I scored for free last summer are stacked in the
wrong spot.

But the body is still recovering from too much turkey and too many
relatives from yesterday.

Wes wrote:
I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me
saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this
situation
at the moment?

Wes


I have one shop with hydronic heat and the other has a propane trailer
furnace installed in the attic area. The trailer furnace was a free one
from a guy tearing down a couple old trailers. Just installed it
upstairs with the ductwork dropping below the rafters. Then some 4x10
ducts to the corners. Cold air return runs down the back wall behind the
workbench so it is out of sight.

The hydronic is real nice. No cold floor to walk/lay on when your
working under a vehicle and because I also installed a short loop out
under the apron and part of the driveway there is a nice clean area for
folks to park on. Hydronic is not good if you want heat NOW though as it
takes a while to heat all the thermal mass.
I installed a couple more heating systems in the shop as well. I have
the original boiler that has a gas burner on one end and an oil burner
on the other, then I put together a used oil burner unit with a heat
exchanger and installed a couple of LARGE electric water heaters as well.

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On 2007-12-27, Don Foreman wrote:
The Tecumseh "winter king" engine starts every time with one pull --
if and only if you maintain the carburetor. They are quite fussy
about that but otherwise about as reliable as gravity. I've rebuilt
the carb on my Toro every 5 years for the past 25 years, that's worked
fer me. The rebuild kit is about 20 bux.


I thought that they are called "snow king".

You're probably right.


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Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...
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Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


Excuse for a new project - unstoppable hydraulic garage door opener...
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


Excuse for a new project - unstoppable hydraulic garage door opener...




LOL. that's too funny. "monster garage" biting a truck (or whatever) in
half.


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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


Excuse for a new project - unstoppable hydraulic garage door opener...




LOL. that's too funny. "monster garage" biting a truck (or whatever) in
half.



develop a deft touch with it and sit around with your buddies shoot the
****, drink beers and crack black walnuts open.


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Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


But you have extra time to play with your new mig welder now

Wes


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:


Outside temperatures varying between -2C/28F and +12C/53F in Blighty at the
moment.

Shop is at a comfortable 16C/61F at the moment with _no heating_, just 5" of
PU foam in walls and roof and 4"EPS foam under the 8" concrete floor. The heat
from the lights, PC servers, lathe and me keep it comfortable if I use it for
2 hours a day or more.

Plan for this year is intelligent ventilation to dump surplus warmth at night
in summer, plus server consolidation to reduce the heat input and electric
charges.

I'll be using it more next week since I've had to postpone my Christmas
holidays a bit due to the usual IT department, work based planning
catastrophes...


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C." quickly quoth:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


Excuse for a new project - unstoppable hydraulic garage door opener...


Would one of these heavy-duty actuators work for that, perhaps?
http://tinyurl.com/32pc3g

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On Dec 26, 4:34*pm, Wes wrote:
I went out to the garage today. *The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. *How many are in this situation
at the moment?
Wes


I'm waiting to make a 5C collet closer nut with a 1" thru hole, so I
can try sharpening large drill bits with the 30 degree setting of my
end mill grinding fixture.

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On Dec 26, 6:23 pm, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:22:31 GMT, Dave Young wrote:
Cranked up the torpedo heater and did some turning, some facing, some
milling, and some grinding (making a holder for a couple of grinding
wheel dressing diamonds I bought off of E-bay


Any concerns with dumping all of that water vapor right into the shop?


I have a ventless setup in my Garage. I use a shop fan (Air King) to
circulate the air on low.

This is the 2nd Year I'm running it and I have yet to see any rust
caused by it on any of the cast iron or steel that gets left out.

I think the fact that the shop is a little drafty (the fan pressure
probably pushes some of the humidity out), and winters in the Chicago
area make the air super dry (the water vapor probably makes the
humidity higher than 0 but less than high) probably make it OK.

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:


I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?


Wes


Well...the forklift ran out of propane last night, then was a bitch to
get started today, so I could unload the Ranger 9 welder from my
trailer. Its 40F and dropping at midafternoon, so its not as bad as
those of you in the Snow States.


After having been gone for 5 weeks, then slept for the last 2
days...tommorow, cold or not (fire up the propane heaters etc)..Im
gonna do Stuff!!


Gunner


You wuss! I took the dogs out for a walk last night in the 20 deg. at 2 AM. I ran into my neighbor up the
street and we chuckled when we noticed we were wearing the same outfits. Down parka, gym shorts and fuzzy
bedroom slippers...typical in Ohio.


Hey Tom,

I was looking at your website the other day and I noticed that what
you really need is a "Shop basics" starter package. Keeping the guess
work at a minimum for a clueless dolt like me.

I figured it would include a few hand brushes (strip, clean, gentle),
a couple brushes for the disk grinder.

What do you think?


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Hey Tom,

I was looking at your website the other day and I noticed that what
you really need is a "Shop basics" starter package. *Keeping the guess
work at a minimum for a clueless dolt like me.

I figured it would include a few hand brushes (strip, clean, gentle),
a couple brushes for the disk grinder.

What do you think


What would be in a set for scrubbing all the hardened lard oil off old
machine tools? Is there a vee-groove brush?
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I have a ventless setup in my Garage. I use a shop fan (Air King) to
circulate the air on low.


I tried a ventless kerosene heater (same area) and could not use it
due to headaches. I returned it.

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:


I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?


Wes


Well...the forklift ran out of propane last night, then was a bitch to
get started today, so I could unload the Ranger 9 welder from my
trailer. Its 40F and dropping at midafternoon, so its not as bad as
those of you in the Snow States.


After having been gone for 5 weeks, then slept for the last 2
days...tommorow, cold or not (fire up the propane heaters etc)..Im
gonna do Stuff!!


Gunner


You wuss! I took the dogs out for a walk last night in the 20 deg. at 2 AM. I ran into my neighbor up the
street and we chuckled when we noticed we were wearing the same outfits. Down parka, gym shorts and fuzzy
bedroom slippers...typical in Ohio.


Hey Tom,

I was looking at your website the other day and I noticed that what
you really need is a "Shop basics" starter package. Keeping the guess
work at a minimum for a clueless dolt like me.

I figured it would include a few hand brushes (strip, clean, gentle),
a couple brushes for the disk grinder.

What do you think?


Wasn't there supposed to be a RCM Special brush package so time ago?
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Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


Excuse for a new project - unstoppable hydraulic garage door opener...


No, the problem is exposing the entire contents of the garage to the
winds.
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Wes writes:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


But you have extra time to play with your new mig welder now


With the condition of the garage (stuff moved out of the way for the
opener, and the assembled-but-not-installed opener on the floor,
there's no room to play....


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:

I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?

Wes


Well...the forklift ran out of propane last night, then was a bitch to
get started today, so I could unload the Ranger 9 welder from my
trailer. Its 40F and dropping at midafternoon, so its not as bad as
those of you in the Snow States.

After having been gone for 5 weeks, then slept for the last 2
days...tommorow, cold or not (fire up the propane heaters etc)..Im
gonna do Stuff!!

Gunner


You wuss! I took the dogs out for a walk last night in the 20 deg. at 2 AM. I ran into my neighbor up the
street and we chuckled when we noticed we were wearing the same outfits. Down parka, gym shorts and fuzzy
bedroom slippers...typical in Ohio.



But its a Dry cold...here..we have cold fog

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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I have a ventless setup in my Garage. I use a shop fan (Air King) to
circulate the air on low.


I tried a ventless kerosene heater (same area) and could not use it
due to headaches. I returned it.


Sorry, The house I bought has Natural Gas run to the garage. My shop
is the back portion of the garage (its actually a whole oversized 1
stall garage attached to the 2 stall garage.

My ventless one of the "garage heaters" you see in the Borg stores.
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Wes



Cold? Here on the South West corner of Vancouver Island, I still have
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But its a Dry cold...here..we have cold fog



It wasn't dry around Cincinnati, when I lived in the area.


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:

I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?

Wes


Well...the forklift ran out of propane last night, then was a bitch to
get started today, so I could unload the Ranger 9 welder from my
trailer. Its 40F and dropping at midafternoon, so its not as bad as
those of you in the Snow States.

After having been gone for 5 weeks, then slept for the last 2
days...tommorow, cold or not (fire up the propane heaters etc)..Im
gonna do Stuff!!

Gunner


You wuss! I took the dogs out for a walk last night in the 20 deg. at 2 AM. I ran into my neighbor up the
street and we chuckled when we noticed we were wearing the same outfits. Down parka, gym shorts and fuzzy
bedroom slippers...typical in Ohio.



Too cold and slippery to wear your minikirt and heels? ;-)


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:

I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?

Wes


Well...the forklift ran out of propane last night, then was a bitch to
get started today, so I could unload the Ranger 9 welder from my
trailer. Its 40F and dropping at midafternoon, so its not as bad as
those of you in the Snow States.

After having been gone for 5 weeks, then slept for the last 2
days...tommorow, cold or not (fire up the propane heaters etc)..Im
gonna do Stuff!!

Gunner


The easy California life has sapped the Yooper right outtaya, hey?
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


Excuse for a new project - unstoppable hydraulic garage door opener...


Yeahhhh. A 22-foot garage door could crush a row of 101 beer cans
(2.604" dia cans) in one shot.

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:35:25 -0800, Gunner Asch
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:

I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?

Wes


Well...the forklift ran out of propane last night, then was a bitch to
get started today, so I could unload the Ranger 9 welder from my
trailer. Its 40F and dropping at midafternoon, so its not as bad as
those of you in the Snow States.

After having been gone for 5 weeks, then slept for the last 2
days...tommorow, cold or not (fire up the propane heaters etc)..Im
gonna do Stuff!!

Gunner


The easy California life has sapped the Yooper right outtaya, hey?


Actually..yes it has. My blood thinned out years ago. Takes me a
winter go get hardened back up, but..after the two back surgeries..the
cold screws me up.

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...



What are you going to do when you need to open the door and the wind
is a blowin???
I have a 9x10 door to the South and a 10x10 door to the East. I open
them both when the wind is blowing, the air hose gets loose and the
saw dust heads down town.
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I don't work with it a lot. I have some large pieces that I make into
smaller pieces.
I don't know this for sure what adhesive is used, but i saw a picture
on the internet of a fella working with Corian and guess what I saw in
the background?
West Systems epoxy! A Ha!
Give the guys at Gougan Brothers a call and talk to their technical
department. These guys are fantastic to talk to and they will tell you
for sure.


I believe the proper adhesive is a polyester resin . Don't pull the joints
too tight , squeezes all the adhesive out . We do quite a bit of it at the
cabinet shop I work at .
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Dan wrote:

I don't work with it a lot. I have some large pieces that I make into
smaller pieces.
I don't know this for sure what adhesive is used, but i saw a picture
on the internet of a fella working with Corian and guess what I saw in
the background?
West Systems epoxy! A Ha!
Give the guys at Gougan Brothers a call and talk to their technical
department. These guys are fantastic to talk to and they will tell you
for sure.



I believe the proper adhesive is a polyester resin . Don't pull the joints
too tight , squeezes all the adhesive out . We do quite a bit of it at the
cabinet shop I work at .


You mean poly Urethane, doncha Snag?
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:27:56 GMT, "Pete C."
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Me and my big mouth. 35 MPH wind gusts, meaning the garage door
effectively cannot be opened, meaning the opener can't be
installed...


What are you going to do when you need to open the door and the wind
is a blowin???
I have a 9x10 door to the South and a 10x10 door to the East. I open
them both when the wind is blowing, the air hose gets loose and the
saw dust heads down town.


I make sure that doesn't happen. My garage is really a shop (there is
a car parked in there, but its engine block is sitting on a
stand...). So I don't *have* to open the door to park a car; anything
I was going to do that involves opening the door gets postponed when
there's a windstorm.

Many years ago, I had a student appear in my office to tell me he was
withdrawing from the university for the semester. I asked him why...

"Remember the windstorm last night"
"Yes."
"I live in a trailer up in San Augustine Pass."
"OK."
"The gusts up there were over 70MPH"
"Wow."
"My trailer blew over.
"Ouch."
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:00:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
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The easy California life has sapped the Yooper right outtaya, hey?


Actually..yes it has. My blood thinned out years ago. Takes me a
winter go get hardened back up, but..after the two back surgeries..the
cold screws me up.

Gunner


Ya, well, I don't handle gallons-of-sweat heat well anymore either.
Meanwhile, I gotta put on a flannel shirt and go shovel the snow outta
the truck bed ... again.


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Don Foreman wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:00:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
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The easy California life has sapped the Yooper right outtaya, hey?


Actually..yes it has. My blood thinned out years ago. Takes me a
winter go get hardened back up, but..after the two back surgeries..the
cold screws me up.

Gunner


Ya, well, I don't handle gallons-of-sweat heat well anymore either.
Meanwhile, I gotta put on a flannel shirt and go shovel the snow outta
the truck bed ... again.



When you get done Don, would you get my deck for me? I got bored with it and
decided to go back in and play with autocad.

Wes
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:53:15 -0500, Wes wrote:

Don Foreman wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:00:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

The easy California life has sapped the Yooper right outtaya, hey?

Actually..yes it has. My blood thinned out years ago. Takes me a
winter go get hardened back up, but..after the two back surgeries..the
cold screws me up.

Gunner


Ya, well, I don't handle gallons-of-sweat heat well anymore either.
Meanwhile, I gotta put on a flannel shirt and go shovel the snow outta
the truck bed ... again.



When you get done Don, would you get my deck for me? I got bored with it and
decided to go back in and play with autocad.

Wes


In 3D, no doubt... listening for screams of anguish...
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Wes wrote in article
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I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying

play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this

situation
at the moment?

Wes


Since I maintain a minimum temperature of 40°F in my shop during the winter
in order to reduce rusting due to condensation, I only have to wait a
half-hour or so after adjusting the thermostat for it to be warm enough in
my shop to work in shirtsleeves.

I plan to be out there for a while this afternoon despite the cold, wet
snow that is falling outside.


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:

I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?


Not me, on Boxing Day I went out to the workshop ( steel shed, 8.5m
x 4.5m ) and it was 58 at head height, 54 at bench height. I left
immediately as it was too hot at 136F to work. It was the hottest BD
since records started in the 1890's at 45C official, where I live it
was 47C. Friday I bought a sprinkler hose and laid it in the roof,
dropped the inside temp from 46 to 37 in less than 10 minutes with
minimum water flow. I prefer to work at night when it has cooled
down, was a delightful 25/77 last night when I finished an adaptor for
the tractor.
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:22:24 +0900, Alan wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:34:45 -0500, Wes wrote:

I went out to the garage today. The machines were waiving at me saying play
with me, play with me, but it was too cold. How many are in this situation
at the moment?


Not me, on Boxing Day I went out to the workshop ( steel shed, 8.5m
x 4.5m ) and it was 58 at head height, 54 at bench height. I left
immediately as it was too hot at 136F to work. It was the hottest BD
since records started in the 1890's at 45C official, where I live it
was 47C. Friday I bought a sprinkler hose and laid it in the roof,
dropped the inside temp from 46 to 37 in less than 10 minutes with
minimum water flow. I prefer to work at night when it has cooled
down, was a delightful 25/77 last night when I finished an adaptor for
the tractor.

Just because you live where everything is bass ackwards to the rest of
the world !!!!!!!!!! :-)}
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
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