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A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
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A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
"SteveB" wrote in message ... http://gallery.menoutdoors.com/galle...oto=15895&si=7 The ideal sport hunting gun - kills, skins and cooks, slices as well by the looks of it. No doubt the helicopter cant be bought off the shelf whilst the gun can be? |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
SteveB wrote:
http://gallery.menoutdoors.com/galle...oto=15895&si=7 The only problem with that is the gun and ammo would be more than twice the weight of the airframe. Excellent thought though. I still like the idea of setting up Barrett .50s every mile or so (so you could have overlapping coverage) and when you see one set foot across the border you plant a round between their legs. If that doesn't deter them plant the next one center mass! Jim |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
On Dec 9, 2:07 pm, "Roger" wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message .... No doubt the helicopter cant be bought off the shelf whilst the gun can be? I've heard that Dillon has the ONLY license for machinegun armed aircraft in the US. I heard it from a fellow who imported several MiG-15's and found them *fully* equipped on delivery. They were Chinese made and the workmanship was exquisite. Jim Wilkins |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy.
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A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
GatherNoMoss wrote:
To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy.
Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
"GatherNoMoss" wrote in message ... To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Stembridges had for sale/sold a 5.56 GE Minigun within the last few years. Advertised as legally registered on the NFA registry and fully transferable. Came with blank and live fire barrels, spare parts, training etc. It was supposed to be the gun used in the original "Predator" movie. $125,000 was the asking price. Still want one? Bill |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
The Davenport's wrote:
To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike Naw. He meant AC-47. DC-3 with the guns pointed out the side of the fusellage. It was where the idea to build the C-130 gunships came from. http://www.af.mil/news/story_media.asp?id=123037200 Cheers Trevor Jones |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
The Davenport's wrote:
To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike The AC-47D was first used in about 1963 as a test. It worked so well that the guy that came up with the idea convinced the Air Force to make more of them. No, I DO NOT mean Spectre. The C-130 gun ship came after Spooky and was stationed in Thailand. I have about 1200 hours on spooky during my year in RVN in 1967-1968 and I DO know the difference between a C-47 and a C-130 (I have over 2000 hours on the C-130 also. Do a websearch for AC-47D and you'll find a BUNCH of information regarding Spooks. Jim |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
The Davenport's wrote:
To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike The one I saw there was plain old C 47 (civilan DC 3 ) ...lew... |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
Trevor Jones wrote:
The Davenport's wrote: To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike Naw. He meant AC-47. DC-3 with the guns pointed out the side of the fusellage. It was where the idea to build the C-130 gunships came from. http://www.af.mil/news/story_media.asp?id=123037200 Cheers Trevor Jones I had over 1200 hours on Spooky during my year ('67-'68) in RVN at Bien Hoa. Check out www.theaviationzone.com/factsheets/ac47.asp for a fairly factual story on them. John Levitow was a friend of mine and a fellow loadmaster. His actions to win the CMH happened shortly after I left. He died of cancer a few years ago in Seattle. Some of the facts in the "factsheet" are slightly erroneous, such as, we actually carried 24,000 rounds as stated before and we almost NEVER fired at 6,00 rpm. It was too hard on the guns. Burned barrel clamps off and such. We most often fired short bursts at the "slow fire" rate of 3,500 rpm. I have some cool memories of those missions, including the one where a bunch of APCs were being over run and the radio operatio said "We're buttoned up. Go ahead and fire directly on us." We did and we could hear the bullets bouncing off the armor and the VC screaming when they got hit. Jim |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:01:58 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, "The
Davenport's" quickly quoth: To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. I thought the C-130s were nicknamed "Puff", as in Puff the Magic Dragon, but that was the AC-47/DC-3. http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-...pooky-puff.htm Dad flew C-123s over Nam in '66, dropping crates of chickens/pigs, and cows from 1,000 feet on parachutes. It took several airmen to dump the cow out of the aircraft. They were intended as stock for raising food animals but most ended up slaughtered the minute they hit the ground. -- My future starts when I wake up every morning... Every day I find something creative to do with my life. -- Miles Davis |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:06:11 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
"BillM" quickly quoth: "GatherNoMoss" wrote in message ... To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Stembridges had for sale/sold a 5.56 GE Minigun within the last few years. Advertised as legally registered on the NFA registry and fully transferable. Came with blank and live fire barrels, spare parts, training etc. It was supposed to be the gun used in the original "Predator" movie. $125,000 was the asking price. Still want one? Hell yes! Thanks. I'd like one for Christmas, please. The rest of you can send ammo. Got my address? -- My future starts when I wake up every morning... Every day I find something creative to do with my life. -- Miles Davis |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:16:18 GMT, Jim Chandler wrote:
GatherNoMoss wrote: To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim And I love you for your service..and saving my young ass more than once. Spooky is a Life Saver (mine) and a widow maker (theirs) Gunner |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:01:58 -0600, "The Davenport's"
wrote: To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike Puff the Magic Dragon. Gunner |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:01:58 -0600, "The Davenport's"
wrote: To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike do a google search for 'puff the magic dragon and vietnam' Stealth Pilot |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:16:18 GMT, Jim Chandler wrote: GatherNoMoss wrote: To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim And I love you for your service..and saving my young ass more than once. Spooky is a Life Saver (mine) and a widow maker (theirs) Gunner I love telling the kids in school, I'm a substitute teacher, when they ask me if I ever killed anybody, "Yes, three or four thousand" You can almost hear their jaws thud on the floor. :-) I do it with such a straight face and matter-of-fact manner. It was my pleasure to assist our guys on the ground. Jim |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:01:58 -0600, "The Davenport's" wrote: To have one of those gatlings....it'd make me happy. Hell, I couldn't afford the AMMO for the thing. We had three General Electric miniguns on the AC-47 "Spooky" gunships that I flew in Vietnam and we carried 24,000 rounds of 7.62. 2,000 in each gun and 18,000 strapped to the floor for reloading. we could empty the airplane in a matter of half an hour or less. Sure was effective though. :-) Jhim Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? The AC-130 Spectre was deployed in 1972 and the AC-130 Spooky was deployed in 1995. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm And I can find no mention of an AC-47....closest thing is a H-47 Chinook. Mike Puff the Magic Dragon. Gunner That's the one. "Puff" was one of the names we carried. "Spooky" was the tactical radio call sign we used. I flew on "Spooky 52" out of Bien Hoa. Jim |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
"The Davenport's" wrote:
Do you mean the AC-130 Spectre? I think he ment Puff the Magic Dragon, http://www.1stcavmedic.com/glossary-...ac-47-puff.htm Wes |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
Larry Jaques wrote:
$125,000 was the asking price. Still want one? Hell yes! Thanks. I'd like one for Christmas, please. The rest of you can send ammo. Got my address? I'm going to have to settle for building a gattling gun (hand cranked) from RG-G plans. At least I will be able to afford to feed it. Wes |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
Jim Chandler wrote:
Puff the Magic Dragon. Gunner That's the one. "Puff" was one of the names we carried. "Spooky" was the tactical radio call sign we used. I flew on "Spooky 52" out of Bien Hoa. Jim When were you there? I was there as a Civilian (tech rep) in the fall of 65 for about 3 months. Very intresting place. Saw Puff and the only place I ever saw a U2 take off. WOW talk about "homesick angles". :-) Have some pictures of the hutches etc and a lot of Saigon I look at once in a while. :-) ...lew... |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
Lew Hartswick wrote:
Jim Chandler wrote: Puff the Magic Dragon. Gunner That's the one. "Puff" was one of the names we carried. "Spooky" was the tactical radio call sign we used. I flew on "Spooky 52" out of Bien Hoa. Jim When were you there? I was there as a Civilian (tech rep) in the fall of 65 for about 3 months. Very intresting place. Saw Puff and the only place I ever saw a U2 take off. WOW talk about "homesick angles". :-) Have some pictures of the hutches etc and a lot of Saigon I look at once in a while. :-) ...lew... I was there from December of 1967 to November of 1968. I actually started off at Nha Trang on "Bull**** Bombers" (psywar C-47s) but after two flights with them and throwing nothing at Charlie but my frigging lunch I went to Spook when they asked for volunteers. I figured that if I was going to get my ass shot at, at the very least, I wanted to be able to shoot back. I've seen a couple of U-2s and you're right. I often wished that hte skydiving planes that I jumped from could do that. It would have made more jumps per day possible. :-) I also saw the SR-71 blast out of Mildenhal England in 1982. It's no slouch either. Jim |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should do it.
"Lew Hartswick" wrote in message ... Jim Chandler wrote: Puff the Magic Dragon. Gunner That's the one. "Puff" was one of the names we carried. "Spooky" was the tactical radio call sign we used. I flew on "Spooky 52" out of Bien Hoa. Jim When were you there? I was there as a Civilian (tech rep) in the fall of 65 for about 3 months. Very intresting place. Saw Puff and the only place I ever saw a U2 take off. WOW talk about "homesick angles". :-) Have some pictures of the hutches etc and a lot of Saigon I look at once in a while. :-) ...lew... That's "hooch". |
A couple of these on an ultralight for border patrol should doit.
SteveB wrote:
Have some pictures of the hutches etc and a lot of Saigon I look at once in a while. :-) ...lew... That's "hooch". ( that depends on wether you are from Boston, NJ, OK, or the rest of the country) :-) ...lew... |
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