Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Jim Wilkins wrote:
Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins


Earthlink?

Jim Wilkins wrote in news:67e094fe-0254-4c60-95d7-
:

Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Might want to go to the phone companies websites and check for DSL
availability while you are looking.

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Anthony

You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make
better idiots.

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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:28:55 GMT, Anthony
wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote in news:67e094fe-0254-4c60-95d7-
:

Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Might want to go to the phone companies websites and check for DSL
availability while you are looking.
Most DSL providers up here don't provide usenet access any more. Nor
does the cable company. I'm on a free.terranews.com account.
Limited bandwidth (no good for Binaries) and was only a $4 setup fee
or something like that.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:06:17 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca clare wrote:

Most DSL providers up here don't provide usenet access any more. Nor
does the cable company. I'm on a free.terranews.com account.
Limited bandwidth (no good for Binaries) and was only a $4 setup fee
or something like that.

news.individual.net is fast, filters out a lot of spam, and reliable.
15 bucks a year or so.

On Dec 8, 3:28 pm, Anthony wrote:
Jim Wilkins wrote in news:67e094fe-0254-4c60-95d7-
...
Which [NH dial-up ISPs] are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.
Jim Wilkins

Might want to go to the phone companies websites and check for DSL
availability while you are looking.
Anthony

Tried that already. The lines are too long, old and noisy for DSL, and
they have installed FIOS so there's no chance of improving them. They
bug me weekly to switch over but they won't budge on my counteroffer
of a half speed, half price budget plan and leave the phone on copper.

Just for perspective, my monthly energy cost is under $10 and TV
including HD is free, from an antenna. I'm part of the New Economic
System that Gunner mentioned, where old guys like me can only find
temp jobs. My healthcare is the Don'tGetSick plan.

Jim Wilkins

On Dec 8, 5:14 pm, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:06:17 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca clare wrote:

Most DSL providers up here don't provide usenet access any more. Nor
does the cable company. I'm on a free.terranews.com account.
Limited bandwidth (no good for Binaries) and was only a $4 setup fee
or something like that.

news.individual.net is fast, filters out a lot of spam, and reliable.
15 bucks a year or so.

I just use Yahoo for free mail, Google to read RCM and a GMAIL account
to post. It certainly isn't as nice as the newsreader I used on
MITRE's Mac but it's adequate and loads fast. The sporge is so obvious
that it doesn't interfere.

Jim Wilkins

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins



NetZero, if available in your area, offers basic dial-up internet
service and e-mail for $9.95 per month. About the only downside is
that they automatically disconnect you after 2 hours, but you can
reconnect again right away. Since I don't do long downloads anyway, it
has not been a serious problem for me.

Mike

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Two things. What is your Zip Code and go to the web site for the New
Hampshire Untilities Commission. They should have complete reliable
information.

It will cost some but there is always satellite. Fast as all get ou
and you might be able to set yourself up as an ISP, and have some
positive cashflow, with neighbors. If you do do it with fibre.

Bob AZ

Try copper.net they let you try it for $1 and then if you like it you can
get it for $ 99 year. Or less then $10 a month if you want it monthly. They
have local # all over the country.
Jim


"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Try copper.net they let you try it for $1 and then if you like it you can
get it for $ 99 year. Or less then $10 a month if you want it monthly. They
have local # all over the country. I used them for years but have changed to
high speed. If they don't have rcm
ask them and I think they will get it for you.
Jim


"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Try copper.net they let you try it for $1 and then if you like it you can
get it for $ 99 year. Or less then $10 a month if you want it monthly. They
have local # all over the country. I used them for years but have changed to
high speed. If they don't have rcm
ask them and I think they will get it for you.
Jim


"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Try copper.net they let you try it for $1 and then if you like it you can
get it for $ 99 year. Or less then $10 a month if you want it monthly. They
have local # all over the country. I used them for years but have changed to
high speed. If they don't have rcm
ask them and I think they will get it for you.
Jim


"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

In ,
on Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:26:16 -0800 (PST), Jim Wilkins, wrote:
Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

A decade or so ago, I used acornworld.net out of
Dover. Over the years, that's become pngusa.net. I
don't know if you're looking for an ISP that offers
news, or just one that gets you good speed, but they
might be worth a looksee.
http://www.pngusa.net/support/availability.htm

In article
,
Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Dec 8, 3:28 pm, Anthony wrote:
Jim Wilkins wrote in news:67e094fe-0254-4c60-95d7-
...
Which [NH dial-up ISPs] are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just
simple and
reliable.
Jim Wilkins

Might want to go to the phone companies websites and check for DSL
availability while you are looking.
Anthony

Tried that already. The lines are too long, old and noisy for DSL, and
they have installed FIOS so there's no chance of improving them. They
bug me weekly to switch over but they won't budge on my counteroffer
of a half speed, half price budget plan and leave the phone on copper.

Just for perspective, my monthly energy cost is under $10 and TV
including HD is free, from an antenna. I'm part of the New Economic
System that Gunner mentioned, where old guys like me can only find
temp jobs. My healthcare is the Don'tGetSick plan.

Try isp.com, $9.95/mo for good newsgroups and excellent e-mail filtering
for dial-up only.

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

In article
,
Bob AZ wrote:

It will cost some but there is always satellite. Fast as all get ou
and you might be able to set yourself up as an ISP, and have some
positive cashflow, with neighbors. If you do do it with fibre.


I'm also using Skylink satellite, $30/mo hybrid (dialup upload, fast
satellite download) but they have NO newsgroups.

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

ATT.net still has good dial-up coverage and a very good news server, which is
why I keep my account even though I have DSL at home. Let's face it, both
Usenet and dial-up are old technology and will eventually be history. It is
just a matter of time.

Vaughn

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

http://www.newsguy.com/

Around $70 per year and that includes some web site storage space if you are
into personal web pages. Customer support has been very responsive on the
few occasions I've needed it.

Mike

Vaughn Simon wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

ATT.net still has good dial-up coverage and a very good news server, which is
why I keep my account even though I have DSL at home. Let's face it, both
Usenet and dial-up are old technology and will eventually be history. It is
just a matter of time.

You are probably right, but I hope not. I no longer regularly use
dialup, but it has its uses. My DSL account gives me something like 10
hrs/month of dialup time, which they provide as a low-cost (to them)
perk for use on the road.

As for usenet, I really dislike the ever more popular web forums. I
find them clumsy and slow by comparison to even a marginal news server.

Bill

"Bill Schwab" wrote in message
...

As for usenet, I really dislike the ever more popular web forums. I find them
clumsy and slow by comparison to even a marginal news server.

Perhaps more importantly, there is no overall organization of web forums (as
we have here on Usenet) so there could be hundreds of very similar forums with
few participants on any of them having any knowledge of the others. This leads
to a crazy proliferation of forums, each with only a few regular participants.
Further, there is no organized archiving of web forums.

Regardless of what you and I think, the average Internet user has no idea
what the Usenet is, and thinks that Google Groups is just another provider of
Internet forums. AOL has already turned off its news servers with no obvious
ill effects. How long before other ISPs follow suit?

Vaughn

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:51:16 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Vaughn Simon" quickly quoth:


"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

ATT.net still has good dial-up coverage and a very good news server, which is
why I keep my account even though I have DSL at home. Let's face it, both
Usenet and dial-up are old technology and will eventually be history. It is
just a matter of time.

Usenet history? Bite your tongue, heathen bastid!

This just in:
http://www.flixxy.com/switch-att-mci-sprint.htm

--
Smokey the Bear's rules for fire safety should apply to government:
Keep it small, keep it in a confined area, and keep an eye on it.
--John Stossel in _Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity_

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:02:20 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Bill
Schwab quickly quoth:

Vaughn Simon wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

ATT.net still has good dial-up coverage and a very good news server, which is
why I keep my account even though I have DSL at home. Let's face it, both
Usenet and dial-up are old technology and will eventually be history. It is
just a matter of time.

You are probably right, but I hope not. I no longer regularly use
dialup, but it has its uses. My DSL account gives me something like 10
hrs/month of dialup time, which they provide as a low-cost (to them)
perk for use on the road.

As for usenet, I really dislike the ever more popular web forums. I
find them clumsy and slow by comparison to even a marginal news server.

Amen to that. The web latencies are horrible in online forums, not to
mention the ghastly user interface and program structures. I pray that
Usenet retains its usefulness to millions so it stays online for eons;
until something better comes along. I love it as is.

--
Smokey the Bear's rules for fire safety should apply to government:
Keep it small, keep it in a confined area, and keep an eye on it.
--John Stossel in _Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity_

On 2007-12-09, Jim Sehr wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...

Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

[ ... ]

Try copper.net they let you try it for $1 and then if you like it you can
get it for $ 99 year. Or less then $10 a month if you want it monthly. They
have local # all over the country.

I can't tell for sure where you can get a reasonable ISP, though
you might check whether Covad serves your area. I'm using them, but
I've got a serious high-speed full-time connection -- a T1 line, and you
proably don't want to pay for that. They also offer DSL and ADSL
connections -- and maybe even dialups.

But for a reasonable news server -- try www.newsguy.com to set
up an account. They have their own newsreader (which I haven't tried,
since it is for Windows and Macs) but I do use their news server itself.
Cost is $9.95 a month, and since I don't bother with the binary
newsgroups, I simply accumulate more unused bandwidth every month. It
was one figure until recently (and I was growing my bandwidth backlog
then), and they have now jumped to ten times that monthly bandwidth, so
it will be not too long before I have a terabyte of unused bandwidth.
If I ever get hooked on the binary newsgroups, I could do a major
downloading binge for a while. :-)

Note that Covad's news server is quite poor in my experience.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 22:30:20 -0800, Jim Sehr wrote:
Try copper.net they let you try it for $1 and then if you like it you can
get it for $ 99 year. Or less then $10 a month if you want it monthly. They
have local # all over the country. I used them for years but have changed to
high speed. If they don't have rcm
ask them and I think they will get it for you.

news.individual.net is 15 bucks a year, fast, reliable, and is filtering
out whatever spam a bunch of others are talking about in here today.
Doesn't do binary groups though, if that matters to you.

"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
On 2007-12-09, Jim Sehr wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...

Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

[ ... ]

Try copper.net they let you try it for $1 and then if you like it you
can
get it for $ 99 year. Or less then $10 a month if you want it monthly.
They
have local # all over the country.

I can't tell for sure where you can get a reasonable ISP, though
you might check whether Covad serves your area. I'm using them, but
I've got a serious high-speed full-time connection -- a T1 line, and you
proably don't want to pay for that. They also offer DSL and ADSL
connections -- and maybe even dialups.

But for a reasonable news server -- try www.newsguy.com to set
up an account. They have their own newsreader (which I haven't tried,
since it is for Windows and Macs) but I do use their news server itself.
Cost is $9.95 a month, and since I don't bother with the binary
newsgroups, I simply accumulate more unused bandwidth every month. It
was one figure until recently (and I was growing my bandwidth backlog
then), and they have now jumped to ten times that monthly bandwidth, so
it will be not too long before I have a terabyte of unused bandwidth.
If I ever get hooked on the binary newsgroups, I could do a major
downloading binge for a while. :-)

Doesn't Newsguy have a $70/year rate if you pay for a year at a time? I'm
pretty sure that's what I'm paying but have been using them for several
years and may have been grandfathered into that rate. It would be worth
checking out if saving $50/yr is important to you.

Mike


Note that Covad's news server is quite poor in my experience.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Dec 8, 4:06 pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:28:55 GMT, Anthony
wrote:



Jim Wilkins wrote in news:67e094fe-0254-4c60-95d7-
:

Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another
ISP in southern NH, preferably one that doesn't fill my computer with
spyware or charge my credit card until the next Ice Age. I tried to
Google a few that have local numbers and found that they are smart
enough to stuff in hundreds of favorable entries, like the 'French
Military Victories' stunt.

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

Jim Wilkins

Might want to go to the phone companies websites and check for DSL
availability while you are looking.

Most DSL providers up here don't provide usenet access any more. Nor
does the cable company. I'm on a free.terranews.com account.
Limited bandwidth (no good for Binaries) and was only a $4 setup fee
or something like that.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

While my ISP does provide Usenet, they do not support it and the
server they have for it is really a mess. I found that Google Groups
is actually a web interface to Usenet, so that is what I use now.
While it is not as handy as Usenet with a good newsreader, it is
certainly adequate and I have learned to live with it. BTW, I tried
Terranews and do prefer Google Groups now.

On 2007-12-10, Mike Henry wrote:

"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
On 2007-12-09, Jim Sehr wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...

Verizon is downgrading my dial-up service so I'm looking for another

[ ... ]

Which ones are decent? I'm not looking for fancy, just simple and
reliable.

[ ... ]

But for a reasonable news server -- try www.newsguy.com to set
up an account. They have their own newsreader (which I haven't tried,
since it is for Windows and Macs) but I do use their news server itself.
Cost is $9.95 a month, and since I don't bother with the binary
newsgroups, I simply accumulate more unused bandwidth every month. It
was one figure until recently (and I was growing my bandwidth backlog
then), and they have now jumped to ten times that monthly bandwidth, so
it will be not too long before I have a terabyte of unused bandwidth.
If I ever get hooked on the binary newsgroups, I could do a major
downloading binge for a while. :-)

Doesn't Newsguy have a $70/year rate if you pay for a year at a time? I'm
pretty sure that's what I'm paying but have been using them for several
years and may have been grandfathered into that rate. It would be worth
checking out if saving $50/yr is important to you.

It may well be available. At the time I first got it, I thought
that it was temporary, so I went for the monthly payment. I should look
into it again.

Thanks,
DoN.

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