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A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.
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Apparently not the first time, happened in Vancouver once.
Apparently with flaps up, the computer thought that with full
forward thrust, it was insane to have brakes applied - perhaps
a condtition brought about by some breaker that had to be turned
off just to carry out the thrust test.....


Jim Stewart wrote:
A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg


A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.

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Mark F wrote:
Apparently not the first time, happened in Vancouver once.
Apparently with flaps up, the computer thought that with full
forward thrust, it was insane to have brakes applied - perhaps
a condtition brought about by some breaker that had to be turned
off just to carry out the thrust test.....


Jim Stewart wrote:
A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg


A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.

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Jim Stewart wrote:
A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.


probably not. they don't have jobs in europe.
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RCM only

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:50:32 +1100, with neither quill nor qualm,
Sylvia Else quickly quoth:

Stealth Pilot wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:20:06 -0800, Jim Stewart
wrote:

A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.



doesnt it worry anyone that the fuselage disintegrated as much as it
did?

Stealth Pilot


Well, do we know how fast it was going at impact, and whether the
engines were still at full power at that point?

It was hardly designed for nose impacts with solid and immovable
objects. I think that incident would have made a mess of any airliner.


It looks to have hit the barrier head on, jumped up, and dropped its
head over the sharp point. I think any airframe would have been
battered by that maneuver. You'd think they'd tie the rear landing
gear to prevent such incidents, wouldn't you? Well, I'll bet they do
so from now on.

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Doug Miller wrote:
GB wrote:

....
I can't for the life of me figure out how he derived that from the
information provided to date.


And I can't for the life of me figure out how *you* derived that from the
original post (quoted in its entirety above). What on earth are you talking
about?


He's poking fun at the OP's laziness in saying "A couple people ...".
"a couple" is 2 people romantically involved. "a couple *of* people" is
multiple people.

I know, picky, picky, and also a stretch, but this is Usenet.

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:20:06 -0800, Jim Stewart
wrote:

A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.



Some duct tape, a little Bondo...pop rivets....no problem


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Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:20:06 -0800, Jim Stewart
wrote:

A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.



Some duct tape, a little Bondo...pop rivets....no problem


It'll buff right out...


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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:00:39 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:20:06 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:


A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.


Some duct tape, a little Bondo...pop rivets....no problem


Ummm, but that's how Airbus put it together in the first place, and
you can see how well that assembly work held...

It'll buff right out...


"It's only a flesh wound... In the fleshy part of the brain..."

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Rob. wrote:
... The jet
had been scheduled for delivery to Etihad Airways on 21 November.


"Hello, Etihad Airways? This is Airbus. Yeah, there's been a little
problem and your delivery will be a little delayed."


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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:27:45 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:00:39 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:20:06 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:


A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.

Some duct tape, a little Bondo...pop rivets....no problem


Ummm, but that's how Airbus put it together in the first place, and
you can see how well that assembly work held...


Whereas if it were Boeing the duct tap bondo and pop rivets would be
rattling around in some hidden cavity in the airframe - that's what
you get when you let employees round critical areas of the airframe in
jeans and a t-shirt. It simply wouldn't happen at Airbus or for that
matter anywhere in Europe, Japan or Australia - even if the facility
was a Boeing sub-contractor.


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Mike wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:27:45 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:00:39 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:20:06 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:


A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.

Some duct tape, a little Bondo...pop rivets....no problem


Ummm, but that's how Airbus put it together in the first place, and
you can see how well that assembly work held...



Whereas if it were Boeing the duct tap bondo and pop rivets would be
rattling around in some hidden cavity in the airframe - that's what
you get when you let employees round critical areas of the airframe in
jeans and a t-shirt. It simply wouldn't happen at Airbus or for that
matter anywhere in Europe, Japan or Australia - even if the facility
was a Boeing sub-contractor.




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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:48:51 -0600, cavelamb himself
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0/10, not in the slightest bit funny particularly when my post was
actually based on fact. You Americans are getting far too sensitive
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0/10, not in the slightest bit funny particularly when my post was
actually based on fact. You Americans are getting far too sensitive
these days.



Yeah, the Standard Flame Post file is getting sorta out of date.

I need to update it someday.

Add some pertinant zingers for trolling,

and something very pithy for America bashers.

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Mike wrote:

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:27:45 -0800, Bruce L. Bergman
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:00:39 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:20:06 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:


A brand-new A340 doing full-throttle tests
slipped it's brakes and/or jumped it's chocks,
climbed a blast shield, dropped and broke the
cockpit off.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1293784/M/

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/airbus...t_02_large.jpg

A couple people hurt, probably at least a
couple people looking for new jobs.

Some duct tape, a little Bondo...pop rivets....no problem


Ummm, but that's how Airbus put it together in the first place, and
you can see how well that assembly work held...


Whereas if it were Boeing the duct tap bondo and pop rivets would be
rattling around in some hidden cavity in the airframe - that's what
you get when you let employees round critical areas of the airframe in
jeans and a t-shirt. It simply wouldn't happen at Airbus or for that


That's becuase they're too busy moving partly assembled planes to various countries
so everybody can pretend it's team work.

matter anywhere in Europe, Japan or Australia - even if the facility
was a Boeing sub-contractor.


The US is still the only country capable of making a large passenger plane. The
europeans can't do it because 1) working isn't acceptable there and 2) it's more
important to divide up a simple task into too many small ones just so everybody can
feel important.

Watching the assembly of a Boeing plane on vs. anything from airbus is startling.

pick any video from any website for comparison.

Boeing has an "assembly line. Planes get assembled and roll out the door.

Airbus, on the other hand prefers to block roads to move pieces around at night
between other plants that at too small. The rest of the time is spend backing the
planes up in a warehouse because they're oriented the wrong direction and/or don't
fit anyways. The rest of the time involves cranes with lifting tasks for no apparent
reason. It's the pinnacle of inefficiency.


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