Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:23:15 -0700, Christopher Tidy wrote:

Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris

I could probably come up with a dozen different things that it could be.
Most likely it's a relay that's actuated remotely from the computer,
although it could be some other sort of actuator, a sensor's signal
conditioner, or a kludge to tape over an 'oops'.

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"Christopher Tidy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris


I know this!!!! It's an unknown car part!!!! (God, I'm bored)
Rob

Christopher Tidy wrote:
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Where in the car was it?

Bob

Processed the image, appears to be a rather high amp relay with some
signal processing components. Could operate any number of devices, like
door locks or roof retraction. No way to tell.
JR
Dweller in the cellar
Christopher Tidy wrote:
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris



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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:23:15 -0700, Christopher Tidy
wrote:

Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris
It's a relay device of some sort - possibly from the lock circuit.
Part number ould help

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Chris, like some other replies suggest, the module's function could be for
almost anything on a late-model vehicle, as they typically have almost
insane numbers of electronic circuits.

From it's appearance, my first guess would be the windshield wiper
intermittent duty/delay module, which would very likely include the relay
(black cube) and about a dozen-or-two components (including perhaps a 555
timer IC).
For it to be the WS wiper delay module, I would expect it to require more
than 3 pins for the connector, although there may be another row of pins
below the 3 visible ones.

WB
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"Christopher Tidy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris

On Oct 27, 9:23?pm, Christopher Tidy
wrote:
.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris

Airbag deployment sensor

According to Christopher Tidy :
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

I don't really *know*, but if you will accept a *guess*, I would
guess that it is a turn signal flasher.

The old ones were a thermal relay which changed speed when one
of the lamps was burnt out. The electronic ones like this are stable in
flash rate even when a lamp is burnt out.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:
According to Christopher Tidy:
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.


I don't really *know*, but if you will accept a *guess*, I would
guess that it is a turn signal flasher.

The old ones were a thermal relay which changed speed when one
of the lamps was burnt out. The electronic ones like this are stable in
flash rate even when a lamp is burnt out.


Then you can't tell when yer bulb is burnt out (other than noticing the
horns). I guess it's progress, eh?

Jon

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:55:25 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

"DoN. Nichols" wrote:
According to Christopher Tidy:
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.


I don't really *know*, but if you will accept a *guess*, I would
guess that it is a turn signal flasher.

The old ones were a thermal relay which changed speed when one
of the lamps was burnt out. The electronic ones like this are stable in
flash rate even when a lamp is burnt out.


Then you can't tell when yer bulb is burnt out (other than noticing the
horns). I guess it's progress, eh?

Jon



I was under the impression (at least in the UK) that there was _required_ to
be an indication of when a light was out, just as the electronic flashers also
have a piezo sounder to give a failsafe indication that the turn signals are
operational.


Mark Rand
RTFM

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:41:54 -0700, JR North
wrote:

Processed the image, appears to be a rather high amp relay with some
signal processing components. Could operate any number of devices, like
door locks or roof retraction. No way to tell.
JR
Dweller in the cellar
Christopher Tidy wrote:
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris

It looks a lot like a volvo fuel pump relay.

So its probably a Shapeshifter Fire Control relay from a Minigun.

Gunner


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problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
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competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

On 28 Oct 2007 03:34:20 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
(DoN. Nichols) quickly quoth:

I don't really *know*, but if you will accept a *guess*, I would
guess that it is a turn signal flasher.

Yeah, prolly a flasher or relay.


The old ones were a thermal relay which changed speed when one
of the lamps was burnt out. The electronic ones like this are stable in
flash rate even when a lamp is burnt out.

Probably to the enjoyment of the law enforcement communities. Now you
don't know you have a burnt out bulb until you're pulled over and
ticketed.

--
We have to fight them daily, like fleas, those many small
worries about the morrow, for they sap our energies.
-- Etty Hillesum

Christopher Tidy wrote in
ups.com:

Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris


My best guess would be a part of the 5 mph auto-lock system.

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You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make
better idiots.

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Well, Google returns the home page of the Honda Lock Company,
who make locks and other stuff for Honda and other cars and bikes.
Good starting point? /mark

Christopher Tidy wrote:
Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Best wishes,

Chris

Thanks for all the suggestions. I found the part loose in the
passenger footwell of the car. Someone else probably pulled it loose
before I got there.

I found the Honda Lock Mfg Co's website, but it wasn't much good to me
as it's in Japanese.

I zoomed in closer on one of the pictures I took and got this view of
the label:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/...part_label.jpg

Anyone know what that means? There appears to be some kind of
connection diagram on it.

Best wishes,

Chris

I've now posted the question to the group rec.autos.makers.honda, so
we can see if anyone there knows for sure.

Best wishes,

Chris

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:15:35 -0700, Christopher Tidy
wrote:

I've now posted the question to the group rec.autos.makers.honda, so
we can see if anyone there knows for sure.

Best wishes,

Chris

It looks like possibly a thermal overload relay (safety relay) for
power windows or sunroof????

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Hi folks,

I was at the junkyard recently. I found a small electronic part which
puzzled me. I didn't bring it home, but I took a picture of it because
I was curious to know what it was. Here it is:
http://www.mythic-beasts.com/~cdt22/honda_part.jpg

On the reverse it said "Honda Lock Mfg Co.". I think "Lock" may just
be part of the company name, and isn't necessarily a reference to it
being part of a locking system.

Anyone know? I'm curious.

Looks like the timer relay for a factory alarm.

--
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Near Cooperstown, New York
NRA Member
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Jeffrey Dahmer enough human flesh,
he'd have become a vegan.

Thanks for the opinions. Looks like it's a relay of some sort...but what
kind...who knows? :-)

Best wishes,

Chris

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:03:29 -1000, Rick Frazier
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On 28 Oct 2007 03:34:20 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
(DoN. Nichols) quickly quoth:


I don't really *know*, but if you will accept a *guess*, I would
guess that it is a turn signal flasher.


Yeah, prolly a flasher or relay.



The old ones were a thermal relay which changed speed when one
of the lamps was burnt out. The electronic ones like this are stable in
flash rate even when a lamp is burnt out.


Probably to the enjoyment of the law enforcement communities. Now you
don't know you have a burnt out bulb until you're pulled over and
ticketed.

--
We have to fight them daily, like fleas, those many small
worries about the morrow, for they sap our energies.
-- Etty Hillesum
Actually, most recent vintage japanese and american cars and trucks have
flasher circuits that are designed to blink faster when there is a bulb
out. This is often the only way you'll know you have a bulb out, as
most people never walk around their cars. As you might imagine, a fast
flashing turn signal will nearly always get you a "courtesy stop" if a
cop sees you, which can result in a bonus for them if you happen to have
any problems outstanding.

The old thermal flashers were of two types, one a simple two-prong
device about as tall as it's diameter with a thermal disc that was
heated by the current flowing through it. It would "pop" over and break
the circuit after a bit of time, then cool and reset the circuit. This
type would stop blinking, or blink really slowly when a bulb was out.
using one of these and connecting a trailer (additional bulb(s)) would
result in a really fast blinking... The second type was usually two to
three times diameter and often with three terminals actually contained a
timer of sorts and relay, and was often sold for "trailering" where
there were more bulb. These typically had a relatively constant rate
that didn't depend on the load, as long as at least one bulb was
working. This type was bad because you couldn't tell if a bulb ws out,
but was good because you didn't need to swap the flasher when you hooked
up the trailer...

--Rick
A little further OT, I was following an old geezer ( I'm one too) one
day when he stopped at a light and, even though he had a couple 8"
dia. lights in his back window ( I had mounted cheap "clearance"
lights in mine - this was just after the birth of "eye level brake
lights, and I had an older vehicle) there was not a sign of brake
light. I walked up and mentioned this deficiency to him and his reply
was "Damned fuse must have blown again!" Apparently he didn't
comprehend the fact that his wonderful, super large, eye level brake
lights might draw a lot more power than the original equipment.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:03:29 -1000, Rick Frazier
wrote:

Actually, most recent vintage japanese and american cars and trucks have
flasher circuits that are designed to blink faster when there is a bulb
out.

......as have all European ones since 1980

Maybe you guys were too busy getting men to the moon but your car
technology has seriously lagged the rest of the world


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