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There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on
photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? |
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Richard J Kinch wrote:
There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? I seem to remember that some European bicycle parts had similarly stupid threads... Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- |
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"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message . .. There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Shaft nuts---the thin round nuts with notches in the rim used to retain bearings on shafts. Metric diameter, English pitch. |
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My '70 Datsun Roadster has some bolts that are 6.5mmX28tpi. Took a while
to figure that one out. JR Dweller in the cellar Richard J Kinch wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out
there? There's a lot of specialty farm equipment where english nut and bolt wrench sizes were speced. Not the bore and thread, so they are metric if that component was built on the far side of the pond. Not a problem till you lose a bolt or nut. Fastenal thought I was nuts, even they hadn't seen that. My JD5310N has some of this, some pure metric, and some pure english. All the fastener lengths are non standard. At least you can order replacement fasteners from JD, just hold on to your shorts when you see the bill. Karl |
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"JR North" wrote in message .. . My '70 Datsun Roadster has some bolts that are 6.5mmX28tpi. Took a while to figure that one out. JR Dweller in the cellar Richard J Kinch wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Tyre Sizes are mostly given (cast into the rubber) With the wheel diameter in inches and the tread width in millimetres. John G. |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote:
There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Campagnolo bicycle axles. 9 and 10mm x 26tpi. |
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John G wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message .. . My '70 Datsun Roadster has some bolts that are 6.5mmX28tpi. Took a while to figure that one out. JR Dweller in the cellar Richard J Kinch wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Tyre Sizes are mostly given (cast into the rubber) With the wheel diameter in inches and the tread width in millimetres. There was the unfortunate era of "soft metric" where the diminsions of an "inch" part were simply converted to 3-place metric and called metric. Lead to all sorts of ugly roundoff errors for the designer that allowed the tolerance to build up. Although not quite the same, US aviation uses a very strange hodgepodge mix of units.. Statute miles for visability Nautical miles for navigation Degrees Celsius for temperature Inches of mercury for atmospheric pressure Knots for horizontal speed Feet per minute for vertical speed |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Campagnolo bicycle axles. 9 and 10mm x 26tpi. IIRC the thread was Cycle Engineering Instutute (CEI) Set the lathe for 26 tpi and make whatever you needed. Not as bad as the BA series of threads, where the sizes and pitches are nominally english, but based on metric measurments. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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On 16 Sep, 04:33, Paul wrote:
Richard J Kinch wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? I seem to remember that some European bicycle parts had similarly stupid threads... Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. British Standard Cycle thread = BSC = 26tpi ----------------------------------------- |
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Richard J Kinch wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? I could send you about 5# of 1-1/2 inch long HHCS in 1/4-20 thread with 10mm heads. And they ain't bad 6mm X 1.0s either. They're real honest-to-God 1/4-20. God alone knows where those came from. I've never seen them as original parts on any of the wheelchairs come into our shop. Been some chairs go out with them though. |
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John Husvar wrote:
I could send you about 5# of 1-1/2 inch long HHCS in 1/4-20 thread with 10mm heads. And they ain't bad 6mm X 1.0s either. They're real honest-to-God 1/4-20. God alone knows where those came from. I've never seen them as original parts on any of the wheelchairs come into our shop. Been some chairs go out with them though. I have some similar to those . I think the thread must have been spect. by the US Co. but the heads wernt so the Asian mfgr. used metric for the benefit of the assemblers who have metric tools. Or something like that. ...lew... |
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On Sep 16, 8:56 am, Jim Stewart wrote:
Although not quite the same, US aviation uses a very strange hodgepodge mix of units.. Statute miles for visability Nautical miles for navigation Degrees Celsius for temperature Inches of mercury for atmospheric pressure Knots for horizontal speed Feet per minute for vertical speed Knots and nautical miles are based on degrees of longitude and latitude and the size of the Earth. The Metric system was intended to make the Earth's circumference come out to an even 40,000 Kilometers but the surveyors made (and then covered up) mistakes. jw |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0500, Richard J Kinch
wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? ============ I was told that this resulted from the "Marshal Plan" where many surplus US [inch] machine tools were shipped to Europe after WW2. While transposing gears are a possibility, you can no longer use the half-nut, so there is a significant production penalty to generate metric threads with an inch lead screw. Thus the "compromise" where diameters, lengths etc. were metric and the threads the closest possible inch equivalent, i.e. 26 tpi close to 1.0 mm pitch [25.4 tpi] No documentation, but sounded plausible. Unka' George [George McDuffee] ============ Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814. |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0500, Richard J Kinch
wrote: I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Car tyres have metric width and imperial rim diameter. Except some (rare) American(!) rims, which have metric diameter. I have heard that the Italian model engine manufacturer Super Tigre used to use bearings with metric outside diameter and imperial inside diameter. I have never seen a bearing like that myself, though, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this. Computer monitor size is measured in inches, while the pixel resolution (dot pitch) is measured in millimeters. -- RoRo |
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Robert Roland wrote:
I have heard that the Italian model engine manufacturer Super Tigre used to use bearings with metric outside diameter and imperial inside diameter. I have never seen a bearing like that myself, though, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this. My US-made ATK had a ball bearing in the swing arm that had an imperial OD and a metric ID (or the other way round?). I fell off the bearing dealer's chair when I went there (had no time to measure, so I took it there directly; needed it anyhow) and he lifted his eye-browns more and more the more he measured. That was a Tuesday. Friday night off for a race. No chance to get that bearing! Made some kind of funny boring bar that was driven by a hand drill and berserked two bigger holes into the (**very** nicely TIG-welded!!!) frame and made a new axle and bushings. BTW, the bb's were made in China. Completely disintegrated in the middle of the season. "ATK: Crafted with pride in the USA." LOL! Nick -- The lowcost-DRO: http://www.yadro.de |
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F. George McDuffee wrote:
I was told that this resulted from the "Marshal Plan" where many surplus US [inch] machine tools were shipped to Europe after WW2. LOL! Marshall, not Marshal. And the flow of tools was quite the other direction. At that time, everyone no longer thought about making imperial threads. That "confusion" has ended decades before. At least in Germany. Nick -- The lowcost-DRO: http://www.yadro.de |
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:18:33 -0400, John Husvar
wrote: I could send you about 5# of 1-1/2 inch long HHCS in 1/4-20 thread with 10mm heads. I've seen socket cap screws the other way 'round - metric threads with fractional hex sockets. If you order a Huco Oldham coupling (made in Engalnd) with a fractional inch bore it comes with them. Order a metric bore and you get regular all metric screws. -- Ned Simmons |
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Ned Simmons wrote: On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:18:33 -0400, John Husvar wrote: I could send you about 5# of 1-1/2 inch long HHCS in 1/4-20 thread with 10mm heads. I've seen socket cap screws the other way 'round - metric threads with fractional hex sockets. If you order a Huco Oldham coupling (made in Engalnd) with a fractional inch bore it comes with them. Order a metric bore and you get regular all metric screws. Interesting. I had no idea the practice might be so common. Thanks, All. |
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"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message . .. There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? There some small watch screws that use this system, metric diameter and the threads per inch. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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I had a '68 Triumph 500 TT... Half BA and half SAE... talk about a bitch to
work on... IIRC *most* of the serious engine parts were BA, for sure the side case covers were 1/4-20 and a couple of other odd bolts were SAE... --.- Dave "Trevor Jones" wrote in message news:QlaHi.51807$bO6.44944@edtnps89... _ wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote: There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Campagnolo bicycle axles. 9 and 10mm x 26tpi. IIRC the thread was Cycle Engineering Instutute (CEI) Set the lathe for 26 tpi and make whatever you needed. Not as bad as the BA series of threads, where the sizes and pitches are nominally english, but based on metric measurments. Cheers Trevor Jones |
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According to Roger Shoaf :
"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message . .. There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? There some small watch screws that use this system, metric diameter and the threads per inch. And I think that microscope objective threads are typically 0.800"x some fine metric pitch. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote:
There's an odd thread, called the Leica thread, that is used on photographic enlarger lenses. It is specified as 39mm in nominal diameter but 26 tpi in pitch. I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Once, I was detailing a drawing in Autocad, and I downloaded a bearing drawing file from SKF. I imported the bearing file into my other drawing, and the bearing was bigger than my whole assembly! I had to scale it by 1/25.4. ;-) Cheers! Rich |
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Rich Grise wrote:
Once, I was detailing a drawing in Autocad, and I downloaded a bearing drawing file from SKF. I imported the bearing file into my other drawing, and the bearing was bigger than my whole assembly! Autocad is bloatware. :-)) Nick -- The lowcost-DRO: http://www.yadro.de |
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Robert Roland wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote: I'm wondering what other monstrous metric-English combinations are out there? Car tyres have metric width and imperial rim diameter. Except some (rare) American(!) rims, which have metric diameter. Not just American rims, some european cars have metric diameter rims and you better check the price of the tyres before you buy the car. Often 3 to 4 times the price of comparably sized inch tyres in the UK. Most often it can be cheaper here to buy 4 new wheels and tyres in inch size than to buy 4 metric tyres. I have heard that the Italian model engine manufacturer Super Tigre used to use bearings with metric outside diameter and imperial inside diameter. I have never seen a bearing like that myself, though, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this. Computer monitor size is measured in inches, while the pixel resolution (dot pitch) is measured in millimeters. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:51:14 +0200, Nick Mueller wrote:
Rich Grise wrote: Once, I was detailing a drawing in Autocad, and I downloaded a bearing drawing file from SKF. I imported the bearing file into my other drawing, and the bearing was bigger than my whole assembly! Autocad is bloatware. :-)) Nick Hear hear, use Catia instead :-) Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:16:35 +0100, with neither quill nor qualm, Mark
Rand quickly quoth: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:51:14 +0200, Nick Mueller wrote: Rich Grise wrote: Once, I was detailing a drawing in Autocad, and I downloaded a bearing drawing file from SKF. I imported the bearing file into my other drawing, and the bearing was bigger than my whole assembly! Autocad is bloatware. :-)) Nick Hear hear, use Catia instead :-) Eek, the lady on the demo page has one of those whiny, irritating-to-the-core voices. Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. -- EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight, which somehow eases those pains and indignities following our every deficiency in foresight. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:16:35 +0100, with neither quill nor qualm, Mark Rand quickly quoth: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:51:14 +0200, Nick Mueller wrote: Rich Grise wrote: Once, I was detailing a drawing in Autocad, and I downloaded a bearing drawing file from SKF. I imported the bearing file into my other drawing, and the bearing was bigger than my whole assembly! Autocad is bloatware. :-)) Nick Hear hear, use Catia instead :-) Eek, the lady on the demo page has one of those whiny, irritating-to-the-core voices. Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. Something over $16,000 a seat. It is not for the faint of heart, nor the hobbyist. However, if you're planning to design an airliner (its original market), it's the way to go. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:43:59 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:16:35 +0100, with neither quill nor qualm, Mark Rand quickly quoth: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:51:14 +0200, Nick Mueller wrote: Rich Grise wrote: Once, I was detailing a drawing in Autocad, and I downloaded a bearing drawing file from SKF. I imported the bearing file into my other drawing, and the bearing was bigger than my whole assembly! Autocad is bloatware. :-)) Nick Hear hear, use Catia instead :-) Eek, the lady on the demo page has one of those whiny, irritating-to-the-core voices. Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. It's one of those "if you need to ask the price, you can't afford it propositions". Part of our business (about 300 souls) got sold off to a management buyout. Because Dassault wouldn't allow 6 licenses to be transferred, a deal was done whereby the draftsmen still work for us. They are paid for entirely by the sold off business and only do work for them... go figure. Mark Rand RTFM |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:51:18 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. Something over $16,000 a seat. It is not for the faint of heart, nor the hobbyist. However, if you're planning to design an airliner (its original market), it's the way to go. Um, ouch? Ever notice how the really expensive stuff, things with commas in their prices, never seem to be priced online or in print? "Ask for a quote" is the mark of the "too expensive" set, wot? -- EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight, which somehow eases those pains and indignities following our every deficiency in foresight. |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:05:04 +0100, with neither quill nor qualm, Mark
Rand quickly quoth: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:43:59 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. It's one of those "if you need to ask the price, you can't afford it propositions". Right. Part of our business (about 300 souls) got sold off to a management buyout. Because Dassault wouldn't allow 6 licenses to be transferred, a deal was done whereby the draftsmen still work for us. They are paid for entirely by the sold off business and only do work for them... go figure. Ah, so it's not only our American software assholes, the French have the software assholes, too. -- EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight, which somehow eases those pains and indignities following our every deficiency in foresight. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:51:18 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed Huntress" quickly quoth: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. Something over $16,000 a seat. It is not for the faint of heart, nor the hobbyist. However, if you're planning to design an airliner (its original market), it's the way to go. Um, ouch? Ever notice how the really expensive stuff, things with commas in their prices, never seem to be priced online or in print? "Ask for a quote" is the mark of the "too expensive" set, wot? Yeah. I had to dig to find the price of a surf fishing reel the other day. 'Turns out it's $599. I had a feeling it was in that "if you have to ask..." category. -- Ed Huntress |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
US aviation uses a very strange hodgepodge mix of units.. Statute miles for visability Even more strangely, the military opted to give some visibility in meters. http://www.bragg.army.mil/www-wx/taf_code.htm Knots and nautical miles are based on degrees Yes. As you say, that is the legacy and a useful approximation. The earth is non-spherical (like a spinning top mated with a potato), and a minute of arc can vary by up to 60 m in length. Various definitions existed in the past but the nautical mile is now defined as 1852 m precisely. http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochur...r4/table8.html |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:44:03 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:51:18 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed Huntress" quickly quoth: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. Something over $16,000 a seat. It is not for the faint of heart, nor the hobbyist. However, if you're planning to design an airliner (its original market), it's the way to go. Um, ouch? Ever notice how the really expensive stuff, things with commas in their prices, never seem to be priced online or in print? "Ask for a quote" is the mark of the "too expensive" set, wot? Yeah. I had to dig to find the price of a surf fishing reel the other day. 'Turns out it's $599. I had a feeling it was in that "if you have to ask..." category. Yeah, people seem to like to bend sportsmen over for fishing and hunting supplies. -- EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight, which somehow eases those pains and indignities following our every deficiency in foresight. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:44:03 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed Huntress" quickly quoth: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:51:18 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed Huntress" quickly quoth: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message m... Question: Why do they have a shopping basket on their site when there is no way to buy their products online? What does Catia cost, anyway? Just curious. Something over $16,000 a seat. It is not for the faint of heart, nor the hobbyist. However, if you're planning to design an airliner (its original market), it's the way to go. Um, ouch? Ever notice how the really expensive stuff, things with commas in their prices, never seem to be priced online or in print? "Ask for a quote" is the mark of the "too expensive" set, wot? Yeah. I had to dig to find the price of a surf fishing reel the other day. 'Turns out it's $599. I had a feeling it was in that "if you have to ask..." category. Yeah, people seem to like to bend sportsmen over for fishing and hunting supplies. What's even stranger to me is that some of them will pay those prices. That reel I was looking at was a Shimano Stella, and it's a beautiful piece of forging and machining. But how much better can it be than a $150 reel? Those are nice, too. Doubtless they'll cast just as far and they have very good drags, which are the things you're looking for in a surf reel. There are a lot of people around with a lot of money, and they'll pay ridiculous prices to feather their hobbies and pastimes. I'd feel so guilty I couldn't enjoy my hobby if I spent like that. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:26:43 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth: I said: Yeah, people seem to like to bend sportsmen over for fishing and hunting supplies. What's even stranger to me is that some of them will pay those prices. That reel I was looking at was a Shimano Stella, and it's a beautiful piece of forging and machining. But how much better can it be than a $150 reel? Those are nice, too. Doubtless they'll cast just as far and they have very good drags, which are the things you're looking for in a surf reel. Yeah, fishing really is a drag. guffaw There are a lot of people around with a lot of money, and they'll pay ridiculous prices to feather their hobbies and pastimes. I'd feel so guilty I couldn't enjoy my hobby if I spent like that. I grok you in your entirety there. Now where's that old Zebco reel...? -- EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight, which somehow eases those pains and indignities following our every deficiency in foresight. |
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Specs that are part English and part metric
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message news On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:26:43 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed Huntress" quickly quoth: I said: Yeah, people seem to like to bend sportsmen over for fishing and hunting supplies. What's even stranger to me is that some of them will pay those prices. That reel I was looking at was a Shimano Stella, and it's a beautiful piece of forging and machining. But how much better can it be than a $150 reel? Those are nice, too. Doubtless they'll cast just as far and they have very good drags, which are the things you're looking for in a surf reel. Yeah, fishing really is a drag. guffaw You will be punished for that. If not now, then in the afterlife... There are a lot of people around with a lot of money, and they'll pay ridiculous prices to feather their hobbies and pastimes. I'd feel so guilty I couldn't enjoy my hobby if I spent like that. I grok you in your entirety there. Now where's that old Zebco reel...? I'd say save it, but I think ebay has killed the market for collectible reels. It seems like everybody has some in their attic, and they're dragging them out to sell because they think they're valuable. No kidding, I have one that I was offered $200 for fifteen years ago, and today you can buy all of them you want on ebay for around $25. -- Ed Huntress |
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