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i in the middle of a project for my company ,but having small problem
with drilling through 1/4 inch steel. my question is what is the best
type of drill bit to use for boring thru the side of a forklift?

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The 1/4" steel might just be an pre-hardened BHN of 400-500. Normal drills
won't do it.

I cut AR400 with a plasma and just cutting HRS with a drill after pre-cutting
with a torch - is rough. Hardens the metal.

If it is a hot job - like now - try a cement drill.
If it can wait for a drill - buy a 1/4" carbide centering drill or pilot drill.
Carbide made for metal - you can get that drill red hot - and the metal and
the drill continues or starts cutting. Slow cool and it is ok.

Another method - friction heat. Put a short length of drill rod and round it
over with a file - and then use it to heat a spot. Get the spot red. Cool
slow. Then drill with a good HS steel drill.

Since the sides get banged a bit - that is likely pre-hard high BHN.
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i in the middle of a project for my company ,but having small problem
with drilling through 1/4 inch steel. my question is what is the best
type of drill bit to use for boring thru the side of a forklift?


And, ummm, why are you drilling through the side of a forklift? How
big a hole?

I assume you're using high speed steel now with no luck, so the next
step up is cobalt.

Also, make sure you're using a drill motor that's got enough speed and
torque for the job. Battery-powered drills are wonderful, but serious
work requires a cord.
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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:

Another method - friction heat. Â*Put a short length of drill rod and round
it over with a file - and then use it to heat a spot. Â*Get the spot red.



I tried that trick several times, but only failed. What's the trick behind
the trick?


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Nick Mueller wrote:
Martin H. Eastburn wrote:

Another method - friction heat. Put a short length of drill rod and round
it over with a file - and then use it to heat a spot. Get the spot red.



I tried that trick several times, but only failed. What's the trick behind
the trick?


Nick


I've used that trick to drill a hole in bandsaw blade stock, but we
just used a plain old common nail. My understanding was that it combined
annealing the spot, along with 'sucking' a bit of the carbon outta the
saw blade into the lower carbon steel nail. Not sure if that's why it
worked, but it did.

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Nick Mueller wrote:
Martin H. Eastburn wrote:

Another method - friction heat. Put a short length of drill rod and
round
it over with a file - and then use it to heat a spot. Get the spot red.



I tried that trick several times, but only failed. What's the trick
behind
the trick?


Nick


I've used that trick to drill a hole in bandsaw blade stock, but we
just used a plain old common nail. My understanding was that it combined
annealing the spot, along with 'sucking' a bit of the carbon outta the saw
blade into the lower carbon steel nail. Not sure if that's why it worked,
but it did.


I'd be skeptical about the nail sucking out carbon, unless your nails really
suck to begin with. But the technique works well on plain-carbon and
case-hardened simple alloys. On slower-quenching alloys it may not work at
all. It may, in fact, make things worse.

This is a common gunsmith method for drilling holes for a 'scope mount on
vintage Springfield '03 receivers. They were case-hardened and harder than
the hammers of hell.

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