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I had a job that justified buying a sandblasting cabinet! Now, before the
damn thing is assembled and set up, we have thought of lots of ways it will be useful. I've had a gun and a bucket of playground sand and we used it outside the back door but with the convenience and cleanliness of the cabinet, more stuff will get blasted. I bought a supply of "Scat Magic" which is rolled automotive glass. It's been so painful to keep my fingerprints off using a wire wheel, this will be better! NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! |
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Cleanliness? We'll see. Even a slight compromise in the seals of the
cabinet will allow fine dust to get everyhere around it. Not to mention taking bits out, and just opening the door. Don't have it anywhere near where these problems will affect sensitive suuff, including SWMBO. JR Dweller in the cellar Tom Gardner wrote: I had a job that justified buying a sandblasting cabinet! Now, before the damn thing is assembled and set up, we have thought of lots of ways it will be useful. I've had a gun and a bucket of playground sand and we used it outside the back door but with the convenience and cleanliness of the cabinet, more stuff will get blasted. I bought a supply of "Scat Magic" which is rolled automotive glass. It's been so painful to keep my fingerprints off using a wire wheel, this will be better! NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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I built a blasting cabinet 20 years ago and put a small squirrel cage
blower on it. The blower was vented outdoors. It was just enough to create a negative pressure when in use. Abrasive fell to the bottom to re-use and the dust went out doors. No mess or dust in the shop. Best of all it cost me about $25 USD. 42 "JR North" wrote in message ... Cleanliness? We'll see. Even a slight compromise in the seals of the cabinet will allow fine dust to get everyhere around it. Not to mention taking bits out, and just opening the door. Don't have it anywhere near where these problems will affect sensitive suuff, including SWMBO. JR Dweller in the cellar Tom Gardner wrote: I had a job that justified buying a sandblasting cabinet! Now, before the damn thing is assembled and set up, we have thought of lots of ways it will be useful. I've had a gun and a bucket of playground sand and we used it outside the back door but with the convenience and cleanliness of the cabinet, more stuff will get blasted. I bought a supply of "Scat Magic" which is rolled automotive glass. It's been so painful to keep my fingerprints off using a wire wheel, this will be better! NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"42etus" wrote in message .. . I built a blasting cabinet 20 years ago and put a small squirrel cage blower on it. The blower was vented outdoors. It was just enough to create a negative pressure when in use. Abrasive fell to the bottom to re-use and the dust went out doors. No mess or dust in the shop. Best of all it cost me about $25 USD. 42 I've been using a similar system for years. The damned vacuum cleaner units that come with cabinets leave a lot to be desired------often leaking fine dust into the shop, and a less than comfortable noise level. Harold |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... snip---- NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I agree. Wire wheels don't work. Abrasive blasting does! ;-) Harold |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote:
NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I have a feeling your baddest arsed wire wheel is not as agressive as abrasive blasting. Wes |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "Tom Gardner" wrote: NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I have a feeling your baddest arsed wire wheel is not as agressive as abrasive blasting. Wes I'v seen a wire brush cut a 1/2" plate! |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message . net... "42etus" wrote in message .. . I built a blasting cabinet 20 years ago and put a small squirrel cage blower on it. The blower was vented outdoors. It was just enough to create a negative pressure when in use. Abrasive fell to the bottom to re-use and the dust went out doors. No mess or dust in the shop. Best of all it cost me about $25 USD. 42 I've been using a similar system for years. The damned vacuum cleaner units that come with cabinets leave a lot to be desired------often leaking fine dust into the shop, and a less than comfortable noise level. Harold I'll hook it into our central blower system and have a blast gate in line so I can choke it or it will suck it empty. |
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message . net... "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... snip---- NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I agree. Wire wheels don't work. Abrasive blasting does! ;-) Harold Bite me! |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote in message . .. "Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message . net... "Tom Gardner" wrote in message ... snip---- NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I agree. Wire wheels don't work. Abrasive blasting does! ;-) Harold Bite me! Geeez, looooeeeezzze--------who ****ed on your cornflakes, Tom? :-) Harold |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:51:24 -0400, Wes wrote:
"Tom Gardner" wrote: NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I have a feeling your baddest arsed wire wheel is not as agressive as abrasive blasting. Wes Actually...pretty close. Ive used Black Max to remove rust, and Ive used Tommy's knotted wire wheels, and at times...the wire wheels are the winners Gunner |
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HCl in a tank, with some water to make it higher volume and when steel
is nice and gray - the rust floats off if brushed (with rubber gloves) and then slide whatever into a large tank of Baking soda with soda sitting on the bottom - to replace what is used up. Steel comes out nice gray/steel color. Without baking soda the steel will rust. This takes off Black Scale from hot rolled and rust. Martin - been doing it all week. Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Gunner wrote: On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:51:24 -0400, Wes wrote: "Tom Gardner" wrote: NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I have a feeling your baddest arsed wire wheel is not as agressive as abrasive blasting. Wes Actually...pretty close. Ive used Black Max to remove rust, and Ive used Tommy's knotted wire wheels, and at times...the wire wheels are the winners Gunner ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message ... "Tom Gardner" wrote: NOTICE: Abrasive blasting does NOT replace wire wheels! I have a feeling your baddest arsed wire wheel is not as agressive as abrasive blasting. Wes I'v seen a wire brush cut a 1/2" plate! I've seen abrasive jet systems in action.... |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:45:37 +1000, Mastic not@thisaddress wrote:
What is HCI? 1. Please don't top-post, it makes quoting with coherent context difficult. 2. HCl. Chemical composition of hydrochloric acid. But - it's quite nasty and if your training doesn't include recognizing it by name, it'd probably be best to leave using it to people with years or decades of built-in safety experience with the stuff. It's _very_ nasty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid |
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Dave Hinz wrote:
... 2. HCl. ... It's _very_ nasty. ... There's much worse. The home version of HCl is "muriatic" acid. The fumes are very irritating if inhaled, but otherwise not so bad. I use it all the time for derusting, get it on my hands, etc. I don't leave it on my hands, but it's not particularly painful. Biggest precaution is against its fumes - they *will* rust everything. I only use it outside. Bob |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:37:51 -0400, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote: ... 2. HCl. ... It's _very_ nasty. ... There's much worse. The home version of HCl is "muriatic" acid. The fumes are very irritating if inhaled, but otherwise not so bad. I use it all the time for derusting, get it on my hands, etc. I don't leave it on my hands, but it's not particularly painful. Oh, agreed, HF would be worse what with that whole "dissolving your bones while you're trying to use them" thing but still. Biggest precaution is against its fumes - they *will* rust everything. I only use it outside. Right but if the guy didn't recognze the chemical by it's name, he's probably better off leaving the use of it to someone trained. |
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Bottom posting is for the mentally handicapped.I "What is HCI?"
really does not need any quoting at all. Just poking a little at those that insist that their way is the only way. Dan "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." Emerson On Sep 8, 1:54 pm, Dave Hinz wrote: 1. Please don't top-post, it makes quoting with coherent context difficult. |
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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message ... HCl in a tank, with some water to make it higher volume and when steel is nice and gray - the rust floats off if brushed (with rubber gloves) and then slide whatever into a large tank of Baking soda with soda sitting on the bottom - to replace what is used up. Steel comes out nice gray/steel color. Without baking soda the steel will rust. This takes off Black Scale from hot rolled and rust. Martin - been doing it all week. A word of caution. If you pickle heat treated objects, they should receive a roast afterwards to eliminate hydrogen embrittlement. Harold |
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H C L that was a lower case l Cl is an element like H.
Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Mastic wrote: What is HCI? HCl in a tank, with some water to make it higher volume and when steel is nice and gray - the rust floats off if brushed (with rubber gloves) and then slide whatever into a large tank of Baking soda with soda sitting on the bottom - to replace what is used up. Steel comes out nice gray/steel color. Without baking soda the steel will rust. This takes off Black Scale from hot rolled and rust. Martin - been doing it all week. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I never heard of that - but I believe it.
I think when I didn't have the baking soda and washed it off with the hose... The 'clean' plates rusted lightly. When treated with a super saturated (it was in piles on the bottom of the tray) of baking soda it didn't rust. I think the hydrogen in the surface absorbs moisture and more exactly- creates it from oxygen. Thus the rust. And the process starts over - in reverse. I suppose. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Harold and Susan Vordos wrote: "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message ... HCl in a tank, with some water to make it higher volume and when steel is nice and gray - the rust floats off if brushed (with rubber gloves) and then slide whatever into a large tank of Baking soda with soda sitting on the bottom - to replace what is used up. Steel comes out nice gray/steel color. Without baking soda the steel will rust. This takes off Black Scale from hot rolled and rust. Martin - been doing it all week. A word of caution. If you pickle heat treated objects, they should receive a roast afterwards to eliminate hydrogen embrittlement. Harold ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I top post because I want to read what is new. If I need the history, I can
scroll down and read it. "Mastic" not@thisaddress wrote in message ... Dave Hinz wrote: On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:45:37 +1000, Mastic not@thisaddress wrote: What is HCI? 1. Please don't top-post, it makes quoting with coherent context difficult. 2. HCl. Chemical composition of hydrochloric acid. But - it's quite nasty and if your training doesn't include recognizing it by name, it'd probably be best to leave using it to people with years or decades of built-in safety experience with the stuff. It's _very_ nasty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid Would you believe I also dislike top posting and at one time I would ask people to bottom post for exactly the same reason, we read *down* the page, however I have given up under the weight of almost universal top posting and started top posting myself. David -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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