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Default OT-Interesting read on the status of the world today

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:36:48 -0700, GatherNoMoss
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The 20th century the "West" was without peer....now the whole lot of
us can't seem to wait to die off and disappear.

Weirdest thing I've ever heard of.

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deep subject for AMC...

In many ways it is an admission by the people, albeit tacit,
subliminal and unconscious, that the state and its bureaucracy
have won. What the state and its functionaries fail to realize
is that they have won in exactly the same way that a cancer wins,
and in winning they just committed suicide.

As in far too many cases, the reactionaries/conservatives/torys,
secure in their gated communities and private clubs, remain
totally unaware of the rapidly growing problems, thus almost all
of the investigation and writing on this problem is being done by
the liberals and far left, with their well-known blind-spots and
biases.

Review the wikipedia link below for a fairly comprehensive
review. It may well be that the west after a 500 year run is
just "out of Schlitz." The foundation of western society/culture
is the nation state and as this foundation is abolished it is not
surprising that the society/culture is also collapsing, or at
least morphing into something alien.

click on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse
http://www.compassionatespirit.com/Collapse.htm
{I have the first book and it is an easy read, glib answers but
has some good insights}
http://faculty.arts.ubc.ca/tiberg/Po...ff-Polanyi.htm
http://www.springerlink.com/index/2X83616686KP75Q3.pdf
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0268-540X(199006)6%3A3%3C18%3AAATEO'%3E2.0.CO%3B2-8
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=152...3E2.0.CO%3B2-K
http://content.cdlib.org/xtf/view?do...4&brand=eschol


interesting, but...
http://groups.msn.com/news/general.m...37433815128836

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

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"GatherNoMoss" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've been hearing about this for 15 years ? More ?

What's to be done ?

There's no leadership.

The West seems doped on drugs, materialism, too much food, PC....?

You can't get the average "Western" man excited about nothing except
football or Nascar.


We Easterners also get excited about baseball.


Even I've become apathetic.


No baseball, I'll bet.


Should we blow up something ? A couple guys tried that and it
amounted to zip.


Have you ever seen a chipmunk strapped to a lit M80? Now, *that's*
entertainment.


The 20th century the "West" was without peer....now the whole lot of
us can't seem to wait to die off and disappear.


Speak for yourself.


Weirdest thing I've ever heard of.


Ha! Then you haven't seen previews for the new reality shows.

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