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I thought everyone in Switzerland had to have a rifle or is it just the men? Oh, I thought every American was supposed to have three or more Swiss K-31's. Wes |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:49:32 -0400, Wes wrote:
" wrote: I thought everyone in Switzerland had to have a rifle or is it just the men? Oh, I thought every American was supposed to have three or more Swiss K-31's. Wes Nah..Ive only got 1..and never shoot it because ammo is just too damned hard to find. Gunner |
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Oh, I thought every American was supposed to have three or more Swiss K-31's. Wes Nah..Ive only got 1..and never shoot it because ammo is just too damned hard to find. I figured you for a reloader. As I've collected rifles used in miltaries around the world, I've noticed that US rifles seemed to be the ones best created for riflemen. Wes |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:08:39 -0400, Wes wrote:
Gunner wrote: Oh, I thought every American was supposed to have three or more Swiss K-31's. Wes Nah..Ive only got 1..and never shoot it because ammo is just too damned hard to find. I figured you for a reloader. I am. There are no easily converted cartridges that make over to 7.5 Swiss. There are several..sorta kinda conversions...cringe. As I've collected rifles used in miltaries around the world, I've noticed that US rifles seemed to be the ones best created for riflemen. Wes The Americans went to war with a target rifle The Germans went to war with a hunting rifle The British went to war with a Battle rifle. G Gunner |
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On Aug 30, 2:14 pm, Gunner wrote:
The Americans went to war with a target rifle The Germans went to war with a hunting rifle The British went to war with a Battle rifle. Gunner That was originally an envious British slur on German and American rifles, cartridges and tactics. It didn't help that they had been in the middle of a caliber change and were poorly prepared to resume high-volume production of the Lee- Enfield, so they had to contract their own latest rifle design to US factories (US WWI production was nothing to brag about either). jw |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:49:32 -0400, Wes wrote:
" wrote: I thought everyone in Switzerland had to have a rifle or is it just the men? Oh, I thought every American was supposed to have three or more Swiss K-31's. Hmm, I don't have anything Swiss. How the hell did I miss that? Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:38:21 -0500, David R. Birch wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote: Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? As long as you don't forget the P14 and M1917 Enfields. I also don't have an Eddystone. Odd, that. Are you coming to HGHA next month? If so I shall make every attempt to do so as well. Got some pics to show you. (Gunner has seen 'em, as has Iggy). Dave |
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On 31 Aug 2007 02:14:38 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:38:21 -0500, David R. Birch wrote: Dave Hinz wrote: Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? As long as you don't forget the P14 and M1917 Enfields. I also don't have an Eddystone. Odd, that. Are you coming to HGHA next month? If so I shall make every attempt to do so as well. Got some pics to show you. (Gunner has seen 'em, as has Iggy). The pictures definitely inspire envy, in the better sense of the word. Great stuff. i |
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On 31 Aug 2007 00:25:53 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:49:32 -0400, Wes wrote: " wrote: I thought everyone in Switzerland had to have a rifle or is it just the men? Oh, I thought every American was supposed to have three or more Swiss K-31's. Hmm, I don't have anything Swiss. How the hell did I miss that? Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? No...collect Mausers by Country. Its much nicer to have say..a 98k or deriviative from each country than simply 98ks. This means you can buy more guns. And the Arisaka isnt a Mauser derivative. Gunner |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:26:42 -0500, Ignoramus3147
wrote: On 31 Aug 2007 02:14:38 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:38:21 -0500, David R. Birch wrote: Dave Hinz wrote: Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? As long as you don't forget the P14 and M1917 Enfields. I also don't have an Eddystone. Odd, that. Are you coming to HGHA next month? If so I shall make every attempt to do so as well. Got some pics to show you. (Gunner has seen 'em, as has Iggy). The pictures definitely inspire envy, in the better sense of the word. Great stuff. i I dont do pictures..but..you might want to ask Larry J about my stuff... Gunner |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:16:27 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:26:42 -0500, Ignoramus3147 wrote: On 31 Aug 2007 02:14:38 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:38:21 -0500, David R. Birch wrote: Dave Hinz wrote: Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? As long as you don't forget the P14 and M1917 Enfields. I also don't have an Eddystone. Odd, that. Are you coming to HGHA next month? If so I shall make every attempt to do so as well. Got some pics to show you. (Gunner has seen 'em, as has Iggy). The pictures definitely inspire envy, in the better sense of the word. Great stuff. i I dont do pictures..but..you might want to ask Larry J about my stuff... Aw, we only looked at 30 or 40 of your closet rifles and pistols. I still haven't seen them all by a wide margin, but there sure was a wide and varied selection we did look at. I only wish I'd had that extra day to go plinking with them. Lotsa fun, either way. The Machine Gun Shoot is on Monday at my range and I'm going with money in my pocket. Time to play! I tried a 90 round mag in an AK last year and it was also lotsa fun. I think I'll try out the MaDeuce Twins this time, or an M-16 and... ------------------------------------------ Do the voices in my head bother you? ------------------------------------------ |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:48:18 -0700, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
I tried a 90 round mag in an AK last year and it was also lotsa fun. It was probably not as fun to the AK though. |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:15:03 -0700, Gunner wrote:
On 31 Aug 2007 00:25:53 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? No...collect Mausers by Country. Its much nicer to have say..a 98k or deriviative from each country than simply 98ks. This means you can buy more guns. Oh good. And the Arisaka isnt a Mauser derivative. Hmm. Need to look at the mechanism again; they certainly borrowed some ideas. |
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On 1 Sep 2007 00:19:47 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:15:03 -0700, Gunner wrote: On 31 Aug 2007 00:25:53 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Question: when counting Mausers, should I include the Arisakas and the M1903's? No...collect Mausers by Country. Its much nicer to have say..a 98k or deriviative from each country than simply 98ks. This means you can buy more guns. Oh good. And the Arisaka isnt a Mauser derivative. Hmm. Need to look at the mechanism again; they certainly borrowed some ideas. Of course. Also check out the Lebel and the Carcano..which is far closer to the Arisaka. Paul Mauser was a VERY ingenious fellow. He ranks right up there in the Big Three with John Moses Browning and Hirum Maxim Gunner |
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Gunner wrote:
I am. There are no easily converted cartridges that make over to 7.5 Swiss. There are several..sorta kinda conversions...cringe. Midway sells privi partizan ammo that is boxer primed. Wes |
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There are custom houses that make what you need.
Not a killer price, but real parts it is nice. I'm getting my 6.5mm TC/U wildcat that is made from .223 normally by expanding the neck. I just expanded 100 new ones and now have enough to start loading a set and backups for a match. Hope to get into the swing of things - someday soon. http://www.qual-cart.com/ Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Wes wrote: Gunner wrote: I am. There are no easily converted cartridges that make over to 7.5 Swiss. There are several..sorta kinda conversions...cringe. Midway sells privi partizan ammo that is boxer primed. Wes ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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