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OT - Got Earthlink for a ISP? You might want to read this.
Well it is one of mine.
I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. The moves come as the company continues struggling to generate revenues as dial-up access customers turn to high-speed alternatives from cable and phone companies. More actions could be announced by the year's end but no more cuts are expected, said Rolla P. Huff, the Atlanta-based company's president and chief executive. As part of the plan, EarthLink also said it will repurchase $200 million of its stock. "While we see this as an important first step in unlocking the underlying value that we believe is in our company, we are only eight weeks into the process of repositioning EarthLink for the future," he said. "These changes get our cost structure in line, but there is much more to do." Like many other Internet service providers with roots in dial-up access, EarthLink has sought to diversify its revenue base. EarthLink does resell some high-speed services, but phone companies in particular have been able to offer cut-rate prices, particularly as part of bundles with traditional long-distance and local calling plans. The company had counted on the right to sell customers access to citywide wireless networks in exchange for helping cities build the networks. But amid questions about customer demand and the technology's performance, EarthLink announced in April that it was reviewing new deployments while evaluating the performance of the current rollouts in four cities. Chicago officials said Tuesday that they will shelve a plan to blanket the city's 228 square miles with wireless broadband Internet because it is too costly and too few residents would use it. The city said its negotiations with private-sector partners, including EarthLink, have stalled because any citywide Wi-Fi system would require massive public financing. EarthLink's municipal Wi-Fi plans also face competition from an emerging technology known as WiMax, which can blanket wider areas. It also faced questions over disappointing results from its Helio project, a wireless joint venture with SK Telecom of South Korea. The company has already committed to invest $220 million in Helio and has said it could spend another $50 million on the project, which was blamed for quarterly losses. In July, the company cut its fiscal year 2007 revenue estimate after reporting hefty losses related to the Helio project. The company said Tuesday it will close offices in Orlando, Fla., Knoxville, Tenn., Harrisburg, Pa., and San Francisco and "substantially reduce its presence" in Atlanta and Pasadena, Calif. EarthLink said it expects to save $25 million to $35 million through the rest of the year because of the restructuring. The company currently employs about 1,900 people. Shares rose 48 cents to close at $7.34 in Tuesday trading. The company also lowered its 2007 revenue outlook for the third time this year. EarthLink said it now expects sales of $1.19 billion to $1.21 billion - down from its previous forecast of $1.23 billion to $1.24 billion. The company said it expects a full-year loss of $79 million to $109 million, excluding restructuring charges. EarthLink also offered a warning for 2008, saying it expects subscriber additions to slow. The struggles were evident in the company's earnings. EarthLink posted a $16.3 million loss last quarter. Huff, who was appointed in June, is known by analysts for his willingness to cut loose unprofitable projects. He told reporters after he was named the company's leader that he would conduct a two- month review of the company's businesses aimed at "getting a very focused strategy." EarthLink is hardly alone in its struggles. Last August, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL decided to stop actively marketing Internet access and start giving away AOL.com e-mail accounts, software and other features once limited to paying customers. AOL is trying to attract more advertising dollars on its free sites by doing so. Meanwhile, United Online Inc., the company behind NetZero and Juno, has diversified by buying properties like United Airlines' MyPoints loyalty program and Classmates.com. Parent company Classmates Media Corp. recently filed for an initial public offering, though United Online would remain the controlling stockholder. ___ On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net |
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OT - Got Earthlink for a ISP? You might want to read this.
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Too_Many_Tools wrote: I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless....... I have been slammed into Earthlink twice. Get out fast, any way you can. It's a real nuisance to change e-mail addresses but it's worth it in the long run. Try a new isp for a month before cancelling your old one, you may have to try several to get a good one. Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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OT - Got Earthlink for a ISP? You might want to read this.
On Aug 28, 11:05 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. The moves come as the company continues struggling to generate revenues as dial-up access customers turn to high-speed alternatives from cable and phone companies. More actions could be announced by the year's end but no more cuts are expected, said Rolla P. Huff, the Atlanta-based company's president and chief executive. As part of the plan, EarthLink also said it will repurchase $200 million of its stock. "While we see this as an important first step in unlocking the underlying value that we believe is in our company, we are only eight weeks into the process of repositioning EarthLink for the future," he said. "These changes get our cost structure in line, but there is much more to do." Like many other Internet service providers with roots in dial-up access, EarthLink has sought to diversify its revenue base. EarthLink does resell some high-speed services, but phone companies in particular have been able to offer cut-rate prices, particularly as part of bundles with traditional long-distance and local calling plans. The company had counted on the right to sell customers access to citywide wireless networks in exchange for helping cities build the networks. But amid questions about customer demand and the technology's performance, EarthLink announced in April that it was reviewing new deployments while evaluating the performance of the current rollouts in four cities. Chicago officials said Tuesday that they will shelve a plan to blanket the city's 228 square miles with wireless broadband Internet because it is too costly and too few residents would use it. The city said its negotiations with private-sector partners, including EarthLink, have stalled because any citywide Wi-Fi system would require massive public financing. EarthLink's municipal Wi-Fi plans also face competition from an emerging technology known as WiMax, which can blanket wider areas. It also faced questions over disappointing results from its Helio project, a wireless joint venture with SK Telecom of South Korea. The company has already committed to invest $220 million in Helio and has said it could spend another $50 million on the project, which was blamed for quarterly losses. In July, the company cut its fiscal year 2007 revenue estimate after reporting hefty losses related to the Helio project. The company said Tuesday it will close offices in Orlando, Fla., Knoxville, Tenn., Harrisburg, Pa., and San Francisco and "substantially reduce its presence" in Atlanta and Pasadena, Calif. EarthLink said it expects to save $25 million to $35 million through the rest of the year because of the restructuring. The company currently employs about 1,900 people. Shares rose 48 cents to close at $7.34 in Tuesday trading. The company also lowered its 2007 revenue outlook for the third time this year. EarthLink said it now expects sales of $1.19 billion to $1.21 billion - down from its previous forecast of $1.23 billion to $1.24 billion. The company said it expects a full-year loss of $79 million to $109 million, excluding restructuring charges. EarthLink also offered a warning for 2008, saying it expects subscriber additions to slow. The struggles were evident in the company's earnings. EarthLink posted a $16.3 million loss last quarter. Huff, who was appointed in June, is known by analysts for his willingness to cut loose unprofitable projects. He told reporters after he was named the company's leader that he would conduct a two- month review of the company's businesses aimed at "getting a very focused strategy." EarthLink is hardly alone in its struggles. Last August, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL decided to stop actively marketing Internet access and start giving away AOL.com e-mail accounts, software and other features once limited to paying customers. AOL is trying to attract more advertising dollars on its free sites by doing so. Meanwhile, United Online Inc., the company behind NetZero and Juno, has diversified by buying properties like United Airlines' MyPoints loyalty program and Classmates.com. Parent company Classmates Media Corp. recently filed for an initial public offering, though United Online would remain the controlling stockholder. ___ On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net So far, I have had no problems or complaints with earthlink dial-up. Its been about 8 years, now. Hopefully that doesn't change. Dave |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in
. 3.70: snip It came somewhat later than promised, and worked better than guaranteed when finally installed, but whenever I attempted to check on the status of the order, I was completely stymied by Earthlink's impossible-to- navigate voice operated customer service facility. They make it impossible to use, and I think it's intentional, in an effort to shoo away the "trivial" calls. Good technology run by nasty, unhelpful people in Pakistan. LLoyd Take a look at www.gethuman.com. This site lists a bunch of companies and how to get through their voice mail to a real person. For Earthlink they list the contact number as 888-327-8454 and then - Press 1; press 0 at each prompt thereafter, ignoring messages as getting you to an operator. Bill |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:01:34 -0700, wrote:
On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net So far, I have had no problems or complaints with earthlink dial-up. Its been about 8 years, now. Hopefully that doesn't change. Dave Its been about 10 or more for me. No issues to speak of. Well..they did accidently delete my webpage once...shrug Gunner |
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OT - Got Earthlink for a ISP? You might want to read this.
Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:01:34 -0700, wrote: On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net So far, I have had no problems or complaints with earthlink dial-up. Its been about 8 years, now. Hopefully that doesn't change. Dave Its been about 10 or more for me. No issues to speak of. Well..they did accidently delete my webpage once...shrug Gunner They've had problems getting the word out when they change server setups. And the customer service droids ain't that bright. But the service itself is worth the occasional hassles. Richard |
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OT - Got Earthlink for a ISP? You might want to read this.
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. You just don't get it, do you? Their business has changed, and they have to change, along with it. They just don't need as amny people, since more and more customers are either DSL, broadband, or Sat. It took more people to support dialup. They have recently outsourced their Usenet service to Supernews, which reduces their need for equipment, and support personnel. Atlanta and Pasadena were the two Usenet news server farms. The equipment that controls their network has evolved, as well. That reduces the need for employees, too. Drop them if you want, but of all the broadband available it is still the best in my area. The other two are RR and AOL. I get eight user email accounts, eight, 10 MB websites and a decent news server, with a seven Mb/sec pipe for $49 a month. I had RR, and never want to go back. A couple user accounts and 5 MB web space total. I ahd lots of problems with their news servers, as well. AOL? Forget it! Same price with no Usenet service! What do you propose to replace it? In fact, both it and Brighthouse CATV was up and running during the hurricanes, while DSL and dialup didn't work. They hired people with pickup trucks to go out, with generators, to charge their UPS systems, even in areas with no power. The rain was so bad that Dish and Direct TV were almost useless. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Aug 31, 9:52 am, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. You just don't get it, do you? Their business has changed, and they have to change, along with it. They just don't need as amny people, since more and more customers are either DSL, broadband, or Sat. It took more people to support dialup. They have recently outsourced their Usenet service to Supernews, which reduces their need for equipment, and support personnel. Atlanta and Pasadena were the two Usenet news server farms. The equipment that controls their network has evolved, as well. That reduces the need for employees, too. Drop them if you want, but of all the broadband available it is still the best in my area. The other two are RR and AOL. I get eight user email accounts, eight, 10 MB websites and a decent news server, with a seven Mb/sec pipe for $49 a month. I had RR, and never want to go back. A couple user accounts and 5 MB web space total. I ahd lots of problems with their news servers, as well. AOL? Forget it! Same price with no Usenet service! What do you propose to replace it? In fact, both it and Brighthouse CATV was up and running during the hurricanes, while DSL and dialup didn't work. They hired people with pickup trucks to go out, with generators, to charge their UPS systems, even in areas with no power. The rain was so bad that Dish and Direct TV were almost useless. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No Mike I do get it....but did you READ the article? Layoffs for technology advances are a fact of living these days....layoffs because of your business tanking affects customers....these layoffs are because Earthlink had to lay them off... I have been monitoring my connections to Earthlink by pinging...and I have been seeing some really bad return times....which I suspect indicates crappy servers if they continue. It would also explain many of the problems with not being able to connect to mail servers and dropping bandwidth hogs like Ebay. TMT |
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No Mike I do get it....but did you READ the article? Layoffs for technology advances are a fact of living these days....layoffs because of your business tanking affects customers....these layoffs are because Earthlink had to lay them off... I have been monitoring my connections to Earthlink by pinging...and I have been seeing some really bad return times....which I suspect indicates crappy servers if they continue. It would also explain many of the problems with not being able to connect to mail servers and dropping bandwidth hogs like Ebay. TMT Yes, I did read it, and a lot of other stuff on the Earthink.support newsgroups. I don't have trouble accessing any of the Earthlink, or any other email servers i use, other than the occasional few minute period when they are doing upgrades. The do need to do some work on their DNS servers, but you can always use an external DNS server, like open DNS. An infected computer would be a better explanation of having trouble connecting. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMF Hey, T-M-F, you do KNOW that Embarq's, (which used to be Sprint) contract with Earthlink expired before these layoffs? They took their DSL customers either to another provider, or to their own backbone which took a LOT of work away from Earthlink's employees. Would YOU continue to pay hundreds of employees with nothing to do, and no work to do in the foreseeable future? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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When I worked in Baton Rouge, Earthlink was the only service available besides AOL or a dedicated T1. For me, they were a total disaster. After spending nearly 200 hours over 9 weeks working with tech support to try and get my account to even let me log in, they agreed that my account should be closed and my money refunded. I had to wait an average of 45 minuets to even get a support person on phone, and then all they wanted to do was run through the same exact tests the previous tech had me run. I finally told them in no uncertain terms that I wasn't going to run those tests for about the 20th time and that we needed to get past that series of tests and try something else. BTW, it wasn't limited to a particular computer, as I tried 5 different ones that I had there and six others in other states that I had access to. It was a problem on their end and they wouldn't admit it no matter what we proved to them. Craig C. |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:50:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMF Hey, T-M-F, you do KNOW that Embarq's, (which used to be Sprint) contract with Earthlink expired before these layoffs? They took their DSL customers either to another provider, or to their own backbone which took a LOT of work away from Earthlink's employees. Would YOU continue to pay hundreds of employees with nothing to do, and no work to do in the foreseeable future? When you are a devotee of Lenin as Too Few Brains is...yes, you MUST keep those brave workers. Gunner |
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Gunner wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:50:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMF Hey, T-M-F, you do KNOW that Embarq's, (which used to be Sprint) contract with Earthlink expired before these layoffs? They took their DSL customers either to another provider, or to their own backbone which took a LOT of work away from Earthlink's employees. Would YOU continue to pay hundreds of employees with nothing to do, and no work to do in the foreseeable future? When you are a devotee of Lenin as Too Few Brains is...yes, you MUST keep those brave workers. That's why he's called T-M-F. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Sep 7, 3:37 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gunner wrote: On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:50:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMF Hey, T-M-F, you do KNOW that Embarq's, (which used to be Sprint) contract withEarthlinkexpired before these layoffs? They took their DSL customers either to another provider, or to their own backbone which took a LOT of work away fromEarthlink'semployees. Would YOU continue to pay hundreds of employees with nothing to do, and no work to do in the foreseeable future? When you are a devotee of Lenin as Too Few Brains is...yes, you MUST keep those brave workers. That's why he's called T-M-F. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida I still don't "get" what's going on, and can't find the right help at either Earthlink.net or Supernews. Any advice will be appreciated! All I know is, (1) I no longer have Earthlink's own news service, and (2) I read that it's been "outsourced" to Supernews, But.....OK, so how do I access my usenet service through Supernews? Is it now an extra, for-pay service through Earthlink? (Actually, my Earthlink service nowadays is through Time Warner Cable). Or, is the so-called outsourcing just a way of saying Earthlink has invited us to open separate, for-payaccounts with Supernews? Thanks! |
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On Aug 28, 10:05 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. The moves come as the company continues struggling to generate revenues as dial-up access customers turn to high-speed alternatives from cable and phone companies. More actions could be announced by the year's end but no more cuts are expected, said Rolla P. Huff, the Atlanta-based company's president and chief executive. As part of the plan, EarthLink also said it will repurchase $200 million of its stock. "While we see this as an important first step in unlocking the underlying value that we believe is in our company, we are only eight weeks into the process of repositioning EarthLink for the future," he said. "These changes get our cost structure in line, but there is much more to do." Like many other Internet service providers with roots in dial-up access, EarthLink has sought to diversify its revenue base. EarthLink does resell some high-speed services, but phone companies in particular have been able to offer cut-rate prices, particularly as part of bundles with traditional long-distance and local calling plans. The company had counted on the right to sell customers access to citywide wireless networks in exchange for helping cities build the networks. But amid questions about customer demand and the technology's performance, EarthLink announced in April that it was reviewing new deployments while evaluating the performance of the current rollouts in four cities. Chicago officials said Tuesday that they will shelve a plan to blanket the city's 228 square miles with wireless broadband Internet because it is too costly and too few residents would use it. The city said its negotiations with private-sector partners, including EarthLink, have stalled because any citywide Wi-Fi system would require massive public financing. EarthLink's municipal Wi-Fi plans also face competition from an emerging technology known as WiMax, which can blanket wider areas. It also faced questions over disappointing results from its Helio project, a wireless joint venture with SK Telecom of South Korea. The company has already committed to invest $220 million in Helio and has said it could spend another $50 million on the project, which was blamed for quarterly losses. In July, the company cut its fiscal year 2007 revenue estimate after reporting hefty losses related to the Helio project. The company said Tuesday it will close offices in Orlando, Fla., Knoxville, Tenn., Harrisburg, Pa., and San Francisco and "substantially reduce its presence" in Atlanta and Pasadena, Calif. EarthLink said it expects to save $25 million to $35 million through the rest of the year because of the restructuring. The company currently employs about 1,900 people. Shares rose 48 cents to close at $7.34 in Tuesday trading. The company also lowered its 2007 revenue outlook for the third time this year. EarthLink said it now expects sales of $1.19 billion to $1.21 billion - down from its previous forecast of $1.23 billion to $1.24 billion. The company said it expects a full-year loss of $79 million to $109 million, excluding restructuring charges. EarthLink also offered a warning for 2008, saying it expects subscriber additions to slow. The struggles were evident in the company's earnings. EarthLink posted a $16.3 million loss last quarter. Huff, who was appointed in June, is known by analysts for his willingness to cut loose unprofitable projects. He told reporters after he was named the company's leader that he would conduct a two- month review of the company's businesses aimed at "getting a very focused strategy." EarthLink is hardly alone in its struggles. Last August, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL decided to stop actively marketing Internet access and start giving away AOL.com e-mail accounts, software and other features once limited to paying customers. AOL is trying to attract more advertising dollars on its free sites by doing so. Meanwhile, United Online Inc., the company behind NetZero and Juno, has diversified by buying properties like United Airlines' MyPoints loyalty program and Classmates.com. Parent company Classmates Media Corp. recently filed for an initial public offering, though United Online would remain the controlling stockholder. ___ On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net On the subject of getting hosed by your ISP, take a look at this.... TMT Heavy Internet users unplugged by US cable company Sat Sep 8, 2:16 AM ET Several Internet users in the United States have been unplugged by their service provider because they download too much, a press report said here Friday. Cable Internet and entertainment provider Comcast "has punished some transgressors by cutting off their Internet service, arguing that excessive downloaders hog Internet capacity and slow down the network for other customers," the Washington Post reported. Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas told AFP the company was addressing "the problem of abusive activity that adversely impacts on everybody else's experience." "I can't give you a number" for clients who have been disconnected, said Douglas, while assuring that customers whose plugs were pulled are "very rare." According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four feature films a day to trigger a disconnection warning. Comcast gives customers a month to fix problems or upgrade their service before they are disconnected, the Washington Post said. An unplugged client in Rockville, a suburb of Washington, has filed a complaint with the county he lives in, saying his contract with his service provider states that he is entitled to unlimited Internet access, officials in Montgomery County said. A recent report by the ABI market research company warned that the growth in demand for "bandwidth-hungry services such as HDTV and online gaming is leading to a critical lack of capacity" in US cable operators' networks. "Cable TV operators trying to satisfy the increasing bandwidth demands of HDTV customers feel very much like the thrifty grocer who tried to cram ten pounds of potatoes into a five-pound bag," ABI research director Stan Schatt said last month. "The increasing bandwidth demands on cable operators will soon reach crisis stage, yet this is a  dirty little industry secret that no one talks about." |
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On Aug 28, 10:05 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. The moves come as the company continues struggling to generate revenues as dial-up access customers turn to high-speed alternatives from cable and phone companies. More actions could be announced by the year's end but no more cuts are expected, said Rolla P. Huff, the Atlanta-based company's president and chief executive. As part of the plan, EarthLink also said it will repurchase $200 million of its stock. "While we see this as an important first step in unlocking the underlying value that we believe is in our company, we are only eight weeks into the process of repositioning EarthLink for the future," he said. "These changes get our cost structure in line, but there is much more to do." Like many other Internet service providers with roots in dial-up access, EarthLink has sought to diversify its revenue base. EarthLink does resell some high-speed services, but phone companies in particular have been able to offer cut-rate prices, particularly as part of bundles with traditional long-distance and local calling plans. The company had counted on the right to sell customers access to citywide wireless networks in exchange for helping cities build the networks. But amid questions about customer demand and the technology's performance, EarthLink announced in April that it was reviewing new deployments while evaluating the performance of the current rollouts in four cities. Chicago officials said Tuesday that they will shelve a plan to blanket the city's 228 square miles with wireless broadband Internet because it is too costly and too few residents would use it. The city said its negotiations with private-sector partners, including EarthLink, have stalled because any citywide Wi-Fi system would require massive public financing. EarthLink's municipal Wi-Fi plans also face competition from an emerging technology known as WiMax, which can blanket wider areas. It also faced questions over disappointing results from its Helio project, a wireless joint venture with SK Telecom of South Korea. The company has already committed to invest $220 million in Helio and has said it could spend another $50 million on the project, which was blamed for quarterly losses. In July, the company cut its fiscal year 2007 revenue estimate after reporting hefty losses related to the Helio project. The company said Tuesday it will close offices in Orlando, Fla., Knoxville, Tenn., Harrisburg, Pa., and San Francisco and "substantially reduce its presence" in Atlanta and Pasadena, Calif. EarthLink said it expects to save $25 million to $35 million through the rest of the year because of the restructuring. The company currently employs about 1,900 people. Shares rose 48 cents to close at $7.34 in Tuesday trading. The company also lowered its 2007 revenue outlook for the third time this year. EarthLink said it now expects sales of $1.19 billion to $1.21 billion - down from its previous forecast of $1.23 billion to $1.24 billion. The company said it expects a full-year loss of $79 million to $109 million, excluding restructuring charges. EarthLink also offered a warning for 2008, saying it expects subscriber additions to slow. The struggles were evident in the company's earnings. EarthLink posted a $16.3 million loss last quarter. Huff, who was appointed in June, is known by analysts for his willingness to cut loose unprofitable projects. He told reporters after he was named the company's leader that he would conduct a two- month review of the company's businesses aimed at "getting a very focused strategy." EarthLink is hardly alone in its struggles. Last August, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL decided to stop actively marketing Internet access and start giving away AOL.com e-mail accounts, software and other features once limited to paying customers. AOL is trying to attract more advertising dollars on its free sites by doing so. Meanwhile, United Online Inc., the company behind NetZero and Juno, has diversified by buying properties like United Airlines' MyPoints loyalty program and Classmates.com. Parent company Classmates Media Corp. recently filed for an initial public offering, though United Online would remain the controlling stockholder. ___ On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net On the subject of getting hosed by your ISP, take a look at this.... TMT Heavy Internet users unplugged by US cable company Sat Sep 8, 2:16 AM ET Several Internet users in the United States have been unplugged by their service provider because they download too much, a press report said here Friday. Cable Internet and entertainment provider Comcast "has punished some transgressors by cutting off their Internet service, arguing that excessive downloaders hog Internet capacity and slow down the network for other customers," the Washington Post reported. Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas told AFP the company was addressing "the problem of abusive activity that adversely impacts on everybody else's experience." "I can't give you a number" for clients who have been disconnected, said Douglas, while assuring that customers whose plugs were pulled are "very rare." According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four feature films a day to trigger a disconnection warning. Comcast gives customers a month to fix problems or upgrade their service before they are disconnected, the Washington Post said. An unplugged client in Rockville, a suburb of Washington, has filed a complaint with the county he lives in, saying his contract with his service provider states that he is entitled to unlimited Internet access, officials in Montgomery County said. A recent report by the ABI market research company warned that the growth in demand for "bandwidth-hungry services such as HDTV and online gaming is leading to a critical lack of capacity" in US cable operators' networks. "Cable TV operators trying to satisfy the increasing bandwidth demands of HDTV customers feel very much like the thrifty grocer who tried to cram ten pounds of potatoes into a five-pound bag," ABI research director Stan Schatt said last month. "The increasing bandwidth demands on cable operators will soon reach crisis stage, yet this is a  dirty little industry secret that no one talks about." What's your point? These idiots are like someone walking into an all you can eat buffet with a sleeping bag, and six months worth of clothes, then insisting they only have to pay once, till they leave. There was an idiot on another newsgroup bragging about using an unlimited bandwidth Usenet server account and broadband with multiple computers to download music and movies 24/7, and that he had downloaded over 10,000 movies. At his age, he could never watch all of them, let alone see how many are even watchable. Also, a lot of these heavy bandwidth users are spammers, or doing illegal activities online. Once again, you show everyone that you're 'Pro idiot' and 'Anti-business'. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Sep 9, 2:04 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: On Aug 28, 10:05 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. The moves come as the company continues struggling to generate revenues as dial-up access customers turn to high-speed alternatives from cable and phone companies. More actions could be announced by the year's end but no more cuts are expected, said Rolla P. Huff, the Atlanta-based company's president and chief executive. As part of the plan, EarthLink also said it will repurchase $200 million of its stock. "While we see this as an important first step in unlocking the underlying value that we believe is in our company, we are only eight weeks into the process of repositioning EarthLink for the future," he said. "These changes get our cost structure in line, but there is much more to do." Like many other Internet service providers with roots in dial-up access, EarthLink has sought to diversify its revenue base. EarthLink does resell some high-speed services, but phone companies in particular have been able to offer cut-rate prices, particularly as part of bundles with traditional long-distance and local calling plans. The company had counted on the right to sell customers access to citywide wireless networks in exchange for helping cities build the networks. But amid questions about customer demand and the technology's performance, EarthLink announced in April that it was reviewing new deployments while evaluating the performance of the current rollouts in four cities. Chicago officials said Tuesday that they will shelve a plan to blanket the city's 228 square miles with wireless broadband Internet because it is too costly and too few residents would use it. The city said its negotiations with private-sector partners, including EarthLink, have stalled because any citywide Wi-Fi system would require massive public financing. EarthLink's municipal Wi-Fi plans also face competition from an emerging technology known as WiMax, which can blanket wider areas. It also faced questions over disappointing results from its Helio project, a wireless joint venture with SK Telecom of South Korea. The company has already committed to invest $220 million in Helio and has said it could spend another $50 million on the project, which was blamed for quarterly losses. In July, the company cut its fiscal year 2007 revenue estimate after reporting hefty losses related to the Helio project. The company said Tuesday it will close offices in Orlando, Fla., Knoxville, Tenn., Harrisburg, Pa., and San Francisco and "substantially reduce its presence" in Atlanta and Pasadena, Calif. EarthLink said it expects to save $25 million to $35 million through the rest of the year because of the restructuring. The company currently employs about 1,900 people. Shares rose 48 cents to close at $7.34 in Tuesday trading. The company also lowered its 2007 revenue outlook for the third time this year. EarthLink said it now expects sales of $1.19 billion to $1.21 billion - down from its previous forecast of $1.23 billion to $1.24 billion. The company said it expects a full-year loss of $79 million to $109 million, excluding restructuring charges. EarthLink also offered a warning for 2008, saying it expects subscriber additions to slow. The struggles were evident in the company's earnings. EarthLink posted a $16.3 million loss last quarter. Huff, who was appointed in June, is known by analysts for his willingness to cut loose unprofitable projects. He told reporters after he was named the company's leader that he would conduct a two- month review of the company's businesses aimed at "getting a very focused strategy." EarthLink is hardly alone in its struggles. Last August, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL decided to stop actively marketing Internet access and start giving away AOL.com e-mail accounts, software and other features once limited to paying customers. AOL is trying to attract more advertising dollars on its free sites by doing so. Meanwhile, United Online Inc., the company behind NetZero and Juno, has diversified by buying properties like United Airlines' MyPoints loyalty program and Classmates.com. Parent company Classmates Media Corp. recently filed for an initial public offering, though United Online would remain the controlling stockholder. ___ On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net On the subject of getting hosed by your ISP, take a look at this.... TMT Heavy Internet users unplugged by US cable company Sat Sep 8, 2:16 AM ET Several Internet users in the United States have been unplugged by their service provider because they download too much, a press report said here Friday. Cable Internet and entertainment provider Comcast "has punished some transgressors by cutting off their Internet service, arguing that excessive downloaders hog Internet capacity and slow down the network for other customers," the Washington Post reported. Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas told AFP the company was addressing "the problem of abusive activity that adversely impacts on everybody else's experience." "I can't give you a number" for clients who have been disconnected, said Douglas, while assuring that customers whose plugs were pulled are "very rare." According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four feature films a day to trigger a disconnection warning. Comcast gives customers a month to fix problems or upgrade their service before they are disconnected, the Washington Post said. An unplugged client in Rockville, a suburb of Washington, has filed a complaint with the county he lives in, saying his contract with his service provider states that he is entitled to unlimited Internet access, officials in Montgomery County said. A recent report by the ABI market research company warned that the growth in demand for "bandwidth-hungry services such as HDTV and online gaming is leading to a critical lack of capacity" in US cable operators' networks. "Cable TV operators trying to satisfy the increasing bandwidth demands of HDTV customers feel very much like the thrifty grocer who tried to cram ten pounds of potatoes into a five-pound bag," ABI research director Stan Schatt said last month. "The increasing bandwidth demands on cable operators will soon reach crisis stage, yet this is a  dirty little industry secret that no one talks about." What's your point? These idiots are like someone walking into an all you can eat buffet with a sleeping bag, and six months worth of clothes, then insisting they only have to pay once, till they leave. There was an idiot on another newsgroup bragging about using an unlimited bandwidth Usenet server account and broadband with multiple computers to download music and movies 24/7, and that he had downloaded over 10,000 movies. At his age, he could never watch all of them, let alone see how many are even watchable. Also, a lot of these heavy bandwidth users are spammers, or doing illegal activities online. Once again, you show everyone that you're 'Pro idiot' and 'Anti-business'. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh yes Michael...always a breath of sunshine. Do you always personally insult people? If so then you must be a joy to live with. "According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four feature films a day to trigger a disconnection warning. " I don't consider downloading four films a day excessive bandwidth usage but then again I am on a slow dialup so perhaps I am misinformed...what do you consider "reasonable bandwidth usage"? If you wished to purchase a half dozen metalworking videos via direct download, that purchase would trigger a disconnection warning. And when one considers that the industry considers on-demand video to be their next bread and butter....well as the article says....it's a "dirty little industry secret". TMT |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Sep 9, 2:04 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote: On Aug 28, 10:05 pm, Too_Many_Tools wrote: Well it is one of mine. I have been having a number of problems of late with them...can't find the email servers, pages not loading, dead time on the line and a live chat session that rivals the best comedy you see on the television..it was worthless. Now I see this in the new.... I think I will be shopping around for a new ISP...any suggestions? TMT EarthLink to cut 900 jobs, close offices By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer Tue Aug 28 Internet service provider EarthLink Inc. said Tuesday that it would cut 900 jobs - or about half its work force - and close four offices in an effort to reduce operating costs. EarthLink shares climbed 7 percent on the news. The moves come as the company continues struggling to generate revenues as dial-up access customers turn to high-speed alternatives from cable and phone companies. More actions could be announced by the year's end but no more cuts are expected, said Rolla P. Huff, the Atlanta-based company's president and chief executive. As part of the plan, EarthLink also said it will repurchase $200 million of its stock. "While we see this as an important first step in unlocking the underlying value that we believe is in our company, we are only eight weeks into the process of repositioning EarthLink for the future," he said. "These changes get our cost structure in line, but there is much more to do." Like many other Internet service providers with roots in dial-up access, EarthLink has sought to diversify its revenue base. EarthLink does resell some high-speed services, but phone companies in particular have been able to offer cut-rate prices, particularly as part of bundles with traditional long-distance and local calling plans. The company had counted on the right to sell customers access to citywide wireless networks in exchange for helping cities build the networks. But amid questions about customer demand and the technology's performance, EarthLink announced in April that it was reviewing new deployments while evaluating the performance of the current rollouts in four cities. Chicago officials said Tuesday that they will shelve a plan to blanket the city's 228 square miles with wireless broadband Internet because it is too costly and too few residents would use it. The city said its negotiations with private-sector partners, including EarthLink, have stalled because any citywide Wi-Fi system would require massive public financing. EarthLink's municipal Wi-Fi plans also face competition from an emerging technology known as WiMax, which can blanket wider areas. It also faced questions over disappointing results from its Helio project, a wireless joint venture with SK Telecom of South Korea. The company has already committed to invest $220 million in Helio and has said it could spend another $50 million on the project, which was blamed for quarterly losses. In July, the company cut its fiscal year 2007 revenue estimate after reporting hefty losses related to the Helio project. The company said Tuesday it will close offices in Orlando, Fla., Knoxville, Tenn., Harrisburg, Pa., and San Francisco and "substantially reduce its presence" in Atlanta and Pasadena, Calif. EarthLink said it expects to save $25 million to $35 million through the rest of the year because of the restructuring. The company currently employs about 1,900 people. Shares rose 48 cents to close at $7.34 in Tuesday trading. The company also lowered its 2007 revenue outlook for the third time this year. EarthLink said it now expects sales of $1.19 billion to $1.21 billion - down from its previous forecast of $1.23 billion to $1.24 billion. The company said it expects a full-year loss of $79 million to $109 million, excluding restructuring charges. EarthLink also offered a warning for 2008, saying it expects subscriber additions to slow. The struggles were evident in the company's earnings. EarthLink posted a $16.3 million loss last quarter. Huff, who was appointed in June, is known by analysts for his willingness to cut loose unprofitable projects. He told reporters after he was named the company's leader that he would conduct a two- month review of the company's businesses aimed at "getting a very focused strategy." EarthLink is hardly alone in its struggles. Last August, Time Warner Inc.'s AOL decided to stop actively marketing Internet access and start giving away AOL.com e-mail accounts, software and other features once limited to paying customers. AOL is trying to attract more advertising dollars on its free sites by doing so. Meanwhile, United Online Inc., the company behind NetZero and Juno, has diversified by buying properties like United Airlines' MyPoints loyalty program and Classmates.com. Parent company Classmates Media Corp. recently filed for an initial public offering, though United Online would remain the controlling stockholder. ___ On the Net: http://www.earthlink.net On the subject of getting hosed by your ISP, take a look at this.... TMT Heavy Internet users unplugged by US cable company Sat Sep 8, 2:16 AM ET Several Internet users in the United States have been unplugged by their service provider because they download too much, a press report said here Friday. Cable Internet and entertainment provider Comcast "has punished some transgressors by cutting off their Internet service, arguing that excessive downloaders hog Internet capacity and slow down the network for other customers," the Washington Post reported. Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas told AFP the company was addressing "the problem of abusive activity that adversely impacts on everybody else's experience." "I can't give you a number" for clients who have been disconnected, said Douglas, while assuring that customers whose plugs were pulled are "very rare." According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four feature films a day to trigger a disconnection warning. Comcast gives customers a month to fix problems or upgrade their service before they are disconnected, the Washington Post said. An unplugged client in Rockville, a suburb of Washington, has filed a complaint with the county he lives in, saying his contract with his service provider states that he is entitled to unlimited Internet access, officials in Montgomery County said. A recent report by the ABI market research company warned that the growth in demand for "bandwidth-hungry services such as HDTV and online gaming is leading to a critical lack of capacity" in US cable operators' networks. "Cable TV operators trying to satisfy the increasing bandwidth demands of HDTV customers feel very much like the thrifty grocer who tried to cram ten pounds of potatoes into a five-pound bag," ABI research director Stan Schatt said last month. "The increasing bandwidth demands on cable operators will soon reach crisis stage, yet this is a  dirty little industry secret that no one talks about." What's your point? These idiots are like someone walking into an all you can eat buffet with a sleeping bag, and six months worth of clothes, then insisting they only have to pay once, till they leave. There was an idiot on another newsgroup bragging about using an unlimited bandwidth Usenet server account and broadband with multiple computers to download music and movies 24/7, and that he had downloaded over 10,000 movies. At his age, he could never watch all of them, let alone see how many are even watchable. Also, a lot of these heavy bandwidth users are spammers, or doing illegal activities online. Once again, you show everyone that you're 'Pro idiot' and 'Anti-business'. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh yes Michael...always a breath of sunshine. Do you always personally insult people? If so then you must be a joy to live with. "According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four feature films a day to trigger a disconnection warning. " I don't consider downloading four films a day excessive bandwidth usage but then again I am on a slow dialup so perhaps I am misinformed...what do you consider "reasonable bandwidth usage"? If you wished to purchase a half dozen metalworking videos via direct download, that purchase would trigger a disconnection warning. And when one considers that the industry considers on-demand video to be their next bread and butter....well as the article says....it's a "dirty little industry secret". TMF Ok, whatever you say. You think you know it all, so there is no need to even talk to you. Goodbye, TMF. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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