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[email protected] August 23rd 07 04:06 PM

Rust removal
 
http://www.wr6wr.com/newSite/article...06/wp0906.html
Haven't tried it.
I'm using the ZEP rust remover from Home Depot. It's working well.
Need to find more things to derust and see how long it lasts. Haven't
been able to find any info on it.
Karl


Karl Townsend August 23rd 07 05:54 PM

Rust removal
 

http://www.wr6wr.com/newSite/article...06/wp0906.html


That's a sweet solution, VBG



[email protected] August 23rd 07 09:11 PM

Rust removal
 
On Aug 23, 7:06 am, " wrote:
http://www.wr6wr.com/newSite/article...06/wp0906.html
Haven't tried it.
I'm using the ZEP rust remover from Home Depot. It's working well.
Need to find more things to derust and see how long it lasts. Haven't
been able to find any info on it.
Karl


How interesting. I will certainly give it a try. My wife uses molasses
in breadmaking, so buys it in bulk. Cheaper still that way. Takes a
quart jar to the local health food store and they fill it.

Thanks,
Paul, KD7HB


[email protected] August 24th 07 12:58 PM

Rust removal
 
Let us know how it works.
Karl

On Aug 23, 9:11 am, wrote:
On Aug 23, 7:06 am, " wrote:

http://www.wr6wr.com/newSite/article...06/wp0906.html
Haven't tried it.
I'm using the ZEP rust remover from Home Depot. It's working well.
Need to find more things to derust and see how long it lasts. Haven't
been able to find any info on it.
Karl


How interesting. I will certainly give it a try. My wife uses molasses
in breadmaking, so buys it in bulk. Cheaper still that way. Takes a
quart jar to the local health food store and they fill it.

Thanks,
Paul, KD7HB




Martin H. Eastburn August 25th 07 02:51 AM

Rust removal
 
Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.

Might be that the brand of black strap is containing sulfur - common.
Most state de-sulfurized.

I bet the de version wouldn't work.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
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TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
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Karl Townsend wrote:
http://www.wr6wr.com/newSite/article...06/wp0906.html


That's a sweet solution, VBG



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Karl Townsend August 25th 07 03:08 AM

Rust removal
 

Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.


I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure most drain cleaners are strong
caustics, not acids

Karl



Ignoramus2733 August 25th 07 03:37 AM

Rust removal
 
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:08:33 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote:

Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.


I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure most drain cleaners are strong
caustics, not acids


There are both lye based as well as sulphuric acid based cleaners.
Your Ace Hardware probably has a bottle of concentrated, 80%, sulfuric
acid, sold as drain cleaner, that you can buy and use as drain
cleaner. It is very serious stuff and works very well. Dissolves human
hair, etc. Such a bottle lives on a shelf in my garage and I can
attest to its efficacy. It converts at least a part of the scum from
drains, into stinky H2S.

i

Martin H. Eastburn August 25th 07 03:42 AM

Rust removal
 
This isn't the kiddie stuff in the shopping centers -

This stuff is the real nasty stuff that eats drains if it has to.

Limited use from a plummer section.

It is used to dissolve proteins and fat/grease and melt it by a reactive
hot solution. I keep it out of the shop.

Puts a nice gray surface on scale iron - taking the scale off.

Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Karl Townsend wrote:
Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.


I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure most drain cleaners are strong
caustics, not acids

Karl



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Martin H. Eastburn August 25th 07 03:45 AM

Rust removal
 
Normally it is lye and has and and converts grease into 'soap'.
When Drain-O and such doesn't work - the plummer pulls out the big Bomb.

Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Karl Townsend wrote:
Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.


I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure most drain cleaners are strong
caustics, not acids

Karl



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clare at snyder.on.ca August 25th 07 03:49 AM

Rust removal
 
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:08:33 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:


Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.


I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure most drain cleaners are strong
caustics, not acids

Karl

I have some that is straight H2SO4. Mpst, however is Caustic Soda in
some form.

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Martin H. Eastburn August 25th 07 04:08 AM

Rust removal
 
And one drains lots of water afterwards less drains are messed up.

I remember when the cast iron pipe that ran overhead in the physics department
split open. Seems that for years a slow and ever present drip of acid from
all work stations (chemistry lab) above us ate the bottom of the pipe out.

Replaced it with Quartz that is really protective.

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Ignoramus2733 wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:08:33 -0500, Karl Townsend wrote:
Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.

I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure most drain cleaners are strong
caustics, not acids


There are both lye based as well as sulphuric acid based cleaners.
Your Ace Hardware probably has a bottle of concentrated, 80%, sulfuric
acid, sold as drain cleaner, that you can buy and use as drain
cleaner. It is very serious stuff and works very well. Dissolves human
hair, etc. Such a bottle lives on a shelf in my garage and I can
attest to its efficacy. It converts at least a part of the scum from
drains, into stinky H2S.

i


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Ignoramus2733 August 25th 07 04:40 AM

Rust removal
 
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:08:08 -0500, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
And one drains lots of water afterwards less drains are messed up.


yes, though it applies less to plastic piping.

I remember when the cast iron pipe that ran overhead in the physics department
split open. Seems that for years a slow and ever present drip of acid from
all work stations (chemistry lab) above us ate the bottom of the pipe out.

Replaced it with Quartz that is really protective.


This 80% stuff is very scary. I am afraid that they may stop selling
it.

i

Gerald Miller August 26th 07 04:12 AM

Rust removal
 
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:49:34 -0400, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:08:33 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:


Since H2So4 does a nice job - I use professional plummer drain cleaner -
strong solution of H2So4.


I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure most drain cleaners are strong
caustics, not acids

Karl

I have some that is straight H2SO4. Mpst, however is Caustic Soda in
some form.

IIRC some of the drain cleaners used to be lye with flakes of
aluminium included to create a foaming action - didn't help much when
the no slope drain from the kitchen sink in the mobile home was 95%
full of compacted coffee grounds. Much work with the plunger,
particularly on the pull stroke got things moving again.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


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