Ok,

My appologies for yelling wolf -

even though there really was a wolf!


I've been on the phone with earthlink for an hour.

I've been unable to use the earthlink news server for a nearly a month.
Since we moved to the new house, in fact.

So I've been using the verizon news server - since it was actually
working...


But Gunner posted that he was using EL and didn't see anything. (?)


So I got on the phone to the trolls (tm).


I finally got to talk to a (drum roll please) Master Technician -
who actually knew what a news group was (yea team).

But he was also unable to fix it, so they hooked me up with Alice.

Maybe you've heard of Alice?

Alice took me through the looking glass
(actually highly polished stainless steel -
a huge stretch to get this one kinda sorta on topic)

and

Lo and Behold

Alice made it work!

So I can use the earthlink news servers again!

(They are messing around with the servers again)


And even better!

No massive amounts of random garbage floating in this group!


But - it really did happen.

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
t...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

I LIKE IT!!!!


Gunner

On Aug 14, 3:37 am, "Tom Gardner" wrote:
"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message

...



cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

Just great

I cant wait till someone tells me about the "Machinist episode" of CSI

cavelamb himself wrote:

Ok,

My appologies for yelling wolf -

even though there really was a wolf!

I've been on the phone with earthlink for an hour.

I've been unable to use the earthlink news server for a nearly a month.
Since we moved to the new house, in fact.

So I've been using the verizon news server - since it was actually
working...

But Gunner posted that he was using EL and didn't see anything. (?)

So I got on the phone to the trolls (tm).

I finally got to talk to a (drum roll please) Master Technician -
who actually knew what a news group was (yea team).

But he was also unable to fix it, so they hooked me up with Alice.

Maybe you've heard of Alice?

Alice took me through the looking glass
(actually highly polished stainless steel -
a huge stretch to get this one kinda sorta on topic)

and

Lo and Behold

Alice made it work!

So I can use the earthlink news servers again!

(They are messing around with the servers again)

And even better!

No massive amounts of random garbage floating in this group!

But - it really did happen.

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.


You are no longer on the Earthlink news server. Look at the header
of your message, and you'll see that you are using Supernews. Earthlink
outsourced their Usenet service, and are to shut down their old farm
very soon.

news.east.earthlink.net & news.west.earthlink.net redirect you to
Supernews.

news.earthlink.net still points to the soon to be shut down server farm
that Earthlink ran for several years.

There is one more name that redirects you to supernews, but I can't
remember it at the moment.

You might want to subscribe to the Earthlink only newsgroup at:
news:earthlink.support.usenet where the changes and updates are being
discussed.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

" If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are
plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable
evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

Just great

I cant wait till someone tells me about the "Machinist episode" of CSI


Watch the ending of Patton, it was an accident.

Best Regards
Tom.

"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

You are no longer on the Earthlink news server. Look at the header
of your message, and you'll see that you are using Supernews. Earthlink
outsourced their Usenet service, and are to shut down their old farm
very soon.

news.east.earthlink.net & news.west.earthlink.net redirect you to
Supernews.

news.earthlink.net still points to the soon to be shut down server farm
that Earthlink ran for several years.

There is one more name that redirects you to supernews, but I can't
remember it at the moment.

You might want to subscribe to the Earthlink only newsgroup at:
news:earthlink.support.usenet where the changes and updates are being
discussed.



Bingo!
I had news. without east. or west.
Mine just turned off a few weeks back.



Michael, thanks so much for the link.



Richard

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, "Tom
Gardner" quickly quoth:


"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
t...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

Having just reread John Ross' _Unintended Consequences_, I
rediscovered several more ways to quickly remove vermin. I
particularly liked the 'poke a chopstick through the eye socket into
the brain and stir' method and feel it should be used for spammers and
DOS initiators.

--
Every day above ground is a Good Day(tm).
-----------

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
t...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

Why not just propel the offender?

--

Boris Mohar



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:16:09 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
. net...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are
plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable
evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

I LIKE IT!!!!


Gunner


Well, you're easy...

Sigh...all the girls say so.......


Gunner

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
et...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are
plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable
evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

I LIKE IT!!!!


Gunner


Well, you're easy...

Tom Gardner wrote:

Well, you're easy...


And you're jealous!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Larry Jaques wrote:

Having just reread John Ross' _Unintended Consequences_, I
rediscovered several more ways to quickly remove vermin. I
particularly liked the 'poke a chopstick through the eye socket into
the brain and stir' method and feel it should be used for spammers and
DOS initiators.


That only works if they actually have brains.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

cavelamb himself wrote:

Bingo!
I had news. without east. or west.
Mine just turned off a few weeks back.

Michael, thanks so much for the link.


You're welcome. The other Earthlink-Supernews server names a

news.east.earthlink.net or
news.west.earthlink.net or
nntp.earthlink.net or
earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net
demonews.mindspring.com

and maybe a few others. There were a lot of names set up during
testing, and some have leaked out.

nntp.earthlink.net is supposed to be the 'preferred' server name, but
news.east.earthlink.net or news.west.earthlink.net are supposed to
remain active.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Tom Gardner wrote:

Well, you're easy...


And you're jealous!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

You're another one I wouldn't want on the wrong side of me...you and Gunner
could be too devious if so inclined, to be sure.

Tom Gardner wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Tom Gardner wrote:

Well, you're easy...


And you're jealous!

You're another one I wouldn't want on the wrong side of me...you and Gunner
could be too devious if so inclined, to be sure.


Tom, you have absolutely nothing to worry about with me, unless you
try really hard to **** me off. I have a VERY warped sense of humor
that won't stay in its cage.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Tom Gardner wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Tom Gardner wrote:

Well, you're easy...


And you're jealous!

You're another one I wouldn't want on the wrong side of me...you and
Gunner
could be too devious if so inclined, to be sure.


Tom, you have absolutely nothing to worry about with me, unless you
try really hard to **** me off. I have a VERY warped sense of humor
that won't stay in its cage.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

I'm sure I could never **** you off, we're too aligned. AND, you're far
away.

Tom Gardner wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Tom Gardner wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Tom Gardner wrote:

Well, you're easy...


And you're jealous!

You're another one I wouldn't want on the wrong side of me...you and
Gunner
could be too devious if so inclined, to be sure.


Tom, you have absolutely nothing to worry about with me, unless you
try really hard to **** me off. I have a VERY warped sense of humor
that won't stay in its cage.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

I'm sure I could never **** you off, we're too aligned. AND, you're far
away.


I used to live about two or three hours away from your front door.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:



If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

Hmm. An ice cube launcher? Laser vaporizer?

RWL

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Tue, 14 Aug 2007
09:53:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:16:09 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
.net...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are
plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable
evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

I LIKE IT!!!!


Gunner


Well, you're easy...

Sigh...all the girls say so.......

I've heard that they say you start out easy, but then you go all
difficult on them. Difficult, hard, they weren't too coherent.


pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:51:26 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
Gunner Asch wrote on Tue, 14 Aug 2007
09:53:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:16:09 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:37:27 -0700, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message
y.net...
cavelamb himself writes:

Last night was a real nightmare.

And a lot of guys who are not able to fix their servers are really
getting shafted.

Especially the dial-up guys.

On rec.arts.sf.written (another newsgroup I follow, which is being hit
much more heavily than this one), one of the regulars lamented the
fact that it's still illegal to shoot assholes like the one
responsible for this on sight.

I responded that it's getting harder and harder to find a jury willing
to convict.

If you get arrested for a shooting, you're doing it wrong! There are
plenty
of ways to propel a projectile noiselessly and leave no traceable
evidence.
Don't think of it as a shooting, think of it as an engineering challenge.

I LIKE IT!!!!


Gunner


Well, you're easy...

Sigh...all the girls say so.......

I've heard that they say you start out easy, but then you go all
difficult on them. Difficult, hard, they weren't too coherent.


pyotr

VBSEG

Gunner