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Lane June 27th 04 05:52 PM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 
As a hobby I make items out of copper and manage to sell a few items a year.
I've recently had an inquiry for one of my items but with some
modifications. I've made a few copper pyramids for people that believe in
such things to be used in meditation and other metaphysical/mystical uses.
You can see a picture at
http://www.copperaccents.com/Product...r_Pyramid.html

I've had requests to make one that comes apart for traveling as well as a
smaller version that comes apart. The only way I can think of doing this is
to have the four corner pieces cast with male stubs that the copper tubing
would slide over. However I have no means of doing any casting, plus I've
heard of some inherent problems with melting and casting copper as opposed
to aluminum which is easy to do.

Anyone care to share ideas that come to mind on this? Thanks as always for
sharing your vast amount of knowledge on the subject of metalworking. I've
learned a lot on this NG, political posts notwithstanding.

Lane




Jeff Wisnia June 27th 04 06:06 PM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 


Lane wrote:

As a hobby I make items out of copper and manage to sell a few items a year.
I've recently had an inquiry for one of my items but with some
modifications. I've made a few copper pyramids for people that believe in
such things to be used in meditation and other metaphysical/mystical uses.
You can see a picture at
http://www.copperaccents.com/Product...r_Pyramid.html

I've had requests to make one that comes apart for traveling as well as a
smaller version that comes apart. The only way I can think of doing this is
to have the four corner pieces cast with male stubs that the copper tubing
would slide over. However I have no means of doing any casting, plus I've
heard of some inherent problems with melting and casting copper as opposed
to aluminum which is easy to do.

Anyone care to share ideas that come to mind on this? Thanks as always for
sharing your vast amount of knowledge on the subject of metalworking. I've
learned a lot on this NG, political posts notwithstanding.

Lane




Very appealing looking item, restfull on the eyes.

Yours might be a good application for some rare earth supermagnets
grabbing each other or steel tabs soldered to the copper.

Then you could advertise that the sculpture also provides magnetic
energy with all it's supposed healing powers. G

Jeff (Who thinks your first idea is pretty good. You could probably make
up the "three ended dowels" you need by fold forming them from heavy
copper wire, with maybe a little solder flowed on to keep them from
unfolding.)


--

Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"If you can smile when things are going wrong, you've thought of someone
to blame it on."


axolotl June 27th 04 06:41 PM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 
Lane wrote:

copper pyramids for people that believe in
such things to be used in meditation and other metaphysical/mystical uses.


Anyone care to share ideas that come to mind on this?


I'm not sure you would want to hear it. Probably something about
profiting from the afflicted. But if Glaxo Pharm can do it, so can you.

In other business, take a length a round copper bar the OD of the
tubing, and turn the ends down to the ID. Put a 90 degree bend in the
rod. Next- 1) profile a piece of ID sized rod to mate with the corner
bend at the proper angle. Solder. OR 2) Fixture the bent rod to put a
countersink (with an endmill)in at the proper angle. Solder on ID
diameter stud. I will leave it to others to provide copper machining
tips. I have found it to be the worst stuff to try to machine.

Or just make sheet metal corners as you do for the top, and solder
straps inside the corners that the tubing slides into. Call the corners
"power concentrators".

Kevin Gallimore


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jim rozen June 27th 04 07:17 PM

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In article , Lane says...

http://www.copperaccents.com/Product...r_Pyramid.html


Wow. P. T. Barnum really *was* right!

Jim

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Grant Erwin June 27th 04 08:30 PM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 
Forge the corner pieces from bronze? I hear bronze forges OK .. - GWE

Lane wrote:

As a hobby I make items out of copper and manage to sell a few items a year.
I've recently had an inquiry for one of my items but with some
modifications. I've made a few copper pyramids for people that believe in
such things to be used in meditation and other metaphysical/mystical uses.
You can see a picture at
http://www.copperaccents.com/Product...r_Pyramid.html

I've had requests to make one that comes apart for traveling as well as a
smaller version that comes apart. The only way I can think of doing this is
to have the four corner pieces cast with male stubs that the copper tubing
would slide over. However I have no means of doing any casting, plus I've
heard of some inherent problems with melting and casting copper as opposed
to aluminum which is easy to do.

Anyone care to share ideas that come to mind on this? Thanks as always for
sharing your vast amount of knowledge on the subject of metalworking. I've
learned a lot on this NG, political posts notwithstanding.

Lane





Leon Heller June 27th 04 09:37 PM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 
"Lane" lane_nospam@copperaccents_dot_com wrote in message
...
As a hobby I make items out of copper and manage to sell a few items a

year.
I've recently had an inquiry for one of my items but with some
modifications. I've made a few copper pyramids for people that believe in
such things to be used in meditation and other metaphysical/mystical uses.
You can see a picture at
http://www.copperaccents.com/Product...r_Pyramid.html


Isn't it a bit small? I thought one had to sit inside the pyramid to benefit
from its miraculous properties. 8-)
It should be OK for sharpening razor blades, purifying water, etc.:

http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/pyramideffects.html

Perhaps it will also sharpen drills, lathe tools, etc. and we can throw away
our grinders. 8-)

Leon



Lane June 28th 04 12:05 AM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 

"Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message
...
Very appealing looking item, restfull on the eyes.

Yours might be a good application for some rare earth supermagnets
grabbing each other or steel tabs soldered to the copper.

Then you could advertise that the sculpture also provides magnetic
energy with all it's supposed healing powers. G

Jeff (Who thinks your first idea is pretty good. You could probably make
up the "three ended dowels" you need by fold forming them from heavy
copper wire, with maybe a little solder flowed on to keep them from
unfolding.)

Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)



Some interesting ideas that I'll have to play with. Thanks Jeff.



Lane June 28th 04 12:07 AM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 

"axolotl" wrote in message
...

copper pyramids for people that believe in
such things to be used in meditation and other metaphysical/mystical

uses.

Anyone care to share ideas that come to mind on this?


I'm not sure you would want to hear it. Probably something about
profiting from the afflicted. But if Glaxo Pharm can do it, so can you.


In other business, take a length a round copper bar the OD of the
tubing, and turn the ends down to the ID. Put a 90 degree bend in the
rod. Next- 1) profile a piece of ID sized rod to mate with the corner
bend at the proper angle. Solder. OR 2) Fixture the bent rod to put a
countersink (with an endmill)in at the proper angle. Solder on ID
diameter stud. I will leave it to others to provide copper machining
tips. I have found it to be the worst stuff to try to machine.

Or just make sheet metal corners as you do for the top, and solder
straps inside the corners that the tubing slides into. Call the corners
"power concentrators".

Kevin Gallimore


Kevin
Their money is as green as anyone's. Besides they came to me asking for the
product.
Thanks for some good ideas that I will kick around.

Lane



Leo Lichtman June 28th 04 03:11 AM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 
I suggest standing it on a mirror to double its effectiveness. 2 x 0 = ?



jtaylor June 28th 04 12:36 PM

Ideas needed for take a part joints
 

Lane lane_nospam@copperaccents_dot_com wrote in message
...

"axolotl" wrote in message
...

copper pyramids for people that believe in
such things to be used in meditation and other metaphysical/mystical

uses.


Their money is as green as anyone's. Besides they came to me asking for

the
product.
Thanks for some good ideas that I will kick around.


Emperor Vespasian, to his son Titus, when asked if the tax he levied on
public toilets in Rome was appropriate for his position:

"Pecunia non olet"

Money doesn't smell.



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