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Tim May runs to the government for help...
"Lawrence Glickman" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:16:35 -0700, "PrecisionMachinisT" So shove this up your ass... ....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\.... *******WAD!!!*** You'll have to move your head out of the way to make room............ No yer mistaken, thats *your* head, IDIOT !!! Now go back to playing with your paranoid friends, Im getting bored..... Then do like you usually do. Wake up the dog. You are mistaken, I let sleeping dogs lie, unless they appear to be rabid. -- |
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Tim May runs to the government for help...
"Lawrence Glickman" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:16:35 -0700, "PrecisionMachinisT" So shove this up your ass... ....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\.... *******WAD!!!*** You'll have to move your head out of the way to make room............ No yer mistaken, thats *your* head, IDIOT !!! Now go back to playing with your paranoid friends, Im getting bored..... Then do like you usually do. Wake up the dog. Idiot........ Me and john shook the Nut Tree and poor Lawrence Glickman fell out and landed on his head......now he is all disorientated and confused--you better go an see a doctor in the morning Larry, you MIGHT have suffered a concussion.... G -- SVL |
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Tim May runs to the government for help...
"Lawrence Glickman" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:32:03 -0700, "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote: You are mistaken, I let sleeping dogs lie, unless they appear to be rabid. Take it easy. I'm only kidding. You too. See ya. -- SVL |
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Gunner: I'm back
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:41:12 -0700, Winston §mith
wrote: The age old question. No matter how smart you are, no matter how skilled you are, no matter how useful your services are, what make one person worth a thousand times more than another? supply and demand |
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Tim May runs to the government for help...
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:16:35 -0700, "PrecisionMachinisT"
So shove this up your ass... ....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\.... *******WAD!!!*** You'll have to move your head out of the way to make room............ No yer mistaken, thats *your* head, IDIOT !!! Now go back to playing with your paranoid friends, Im getting bored..... Then do like you usually do. Wake up the dog. |
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Tim May runs to the government for help...
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:32:03 -0700, "PrecisionMachinisT"
wrote: You are mistaken, I let sleeping dogs lie, unless they appear to be rabid. Take it easy. I'm only kidding. Lg |
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Gunner on Socialism and Socialized Medicine
"Sue" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 22:52:23 -0700, Bart Bailey wrote: In posted on Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:33:27 -0700, Tim May wrote: Begin: In article , Harold & Susan Vordos wrote: "Sue" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:30:13 -0700, "Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote: "Tim May" wrote in message t... In article , Harold & Susan Vordos wrote: snip----- Nitwit. You shouldn't be posting to Usenet. I assume you know that the word "gullible" is not in any dictionary in the English language? --Tim May Lighten up, Tim. We all get a turn in the barrel. Nitwit? Me? Welcome to the Nitwit Club. He's called me that so many times I must be president of the NC by now. G I've never denied it, BTW. Sue Hey, no fair!! I want to be pres! g Many are called, few are chosen. Most of you qualify for the Nitwit's Club, but only a handful are candidates for President. I'll announce the finalists in a few weeks. --Tim May Well, if I may invoke tenure here, I was nominated back pre-y2k for Tim's nitwit club. http://xrl.us/ca6c Yes, but is the job of president based on how early one was dubbed a nitwit or how often? I do believe I'd win based on the 2nd mentioned criteria. I'm waiting with great expectations to find out who is selected by the illustrious, great, good-looking, eminent, nice, kind, intelligent, wonderful, superior and wise in all things Mr. May. How's that for a campaign speech? ;o) Sue - nitwit extrordinaire Damn, there it goes. How can I stand up to that? :-) Harold |
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Gunner on Socialism and Socialized Medicine
Guido wrote in message ...
Tim May wrote: In article , Cliff Huprich wrote: Main Entry: gull·ible Variant(s): also gull.able /'g&-l&-b&l/ Function: adjective Date: 1818 See: Right-winger Another sucker. +10 to Cliffy for drawing out the predicable response. But it may have been a bit unfair. After all, fish have brains. Reminds me a bit of Cheney (in defense of the second ammendment) hunting peasants (they probably got confused a bit ...) http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=cheney+hunting+pheasants&spell=1 What next? Dairy cattle with pocket nukes? -- Cliff |
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Gunner on Socialism and Socialized Medicine
"Sue" wrote in message ... On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:17:54 -0700, "Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote: "Sue" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 22:52:23 -0700, Bart Bailey wrote: snip--- Well, if I may invoke tenure here, I was nominated back pre-y2k for Tim's nitwit club. http://xrl.us/ca6c Yes, but is the job of president based on how early one was dubbed a nitwit or how often? I do believe I'd win based on the 2nd mentioned criteria. I'm waiting with great expectations to find out who is selected by the illustrious, great, good-looking, eminent, nice, kind, intelligent, wonderful, superior and wise in all things Mr. May. How's that for a campaign speech? ;o) Sue - nitwit extrordinaire Damn, there it goes. How can I stand up to that? :-) You obviously have standards and I don't. G Sue Chuckle. Nope. Just a smaller vocabulary! g Harold |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
"Tim May" wrote in message ... In article , Dan Caster wrote: I don't have any doubts. Anyone can become rich in any time period if they work at it just a little. The Standard and Poors Index 500 has on the average returned about 10% per year. Some years much more, some years big losses, but an average of 10% per year compounded. The problem is most people do not save a percentage of what they earn. It doesn't even take any skill or luck. This is mostly the power of compounded interest, as you say. It's often more than just simple compounding, as it represents ownership in the future, and thus the amplification of wealth overall. For some here, it may be too late (too old, too much learned helplessness). But for any of you reading this who are under the age of 30, get out your calculator and see what the power of compounded interest is all about. I covered a lot of these points in a long article entitled "Life Choices." A lot of people seemed to have liked it. Survivalism is an important meme, or idea. But some of the most important parts of survival have to do with finding a solid career, not getting sucked under by deadweight spouses and friends, saving and investing, and pursuing work that is both rewarding and enriching. These are some of the themes covered by some of the writers we often cite here, folks like Robert Heinlein, Ayn Rand, and others. While they don't provide recipe books for how to find friends and spouses, what to do when a job lays you off, and similar "short term, self-help" advice, the messages are there if one fully absorbs the messages of achievement, self-reliance, and even "paranoia." One of my old bosses at Intel, the famous Andy Grove, had a saying which got a lot of attention, most negative (from the liberal press): "Only the paranoid survive." This means being paranoid about saving for a rainy day just as it means buying firearms, just as it means speculating about the consequences of a comet hitting the earth. Of course, losing a job is a lot more likely than a comet strike is, so it makes sense to prepare for this. I did so from my first months at Intel, building up my store of saved money, what we used to call " '**** you!' money," for obvious reasons. The people who couldn't escape the "company store" were the people who have never saved enough of this " '**** you!' money." Same as with people trapped in their jobs because they can't afford to break free, or to move from a dying town. Saving money is even more important that buying firearms. Heresy, to some, but absolutely true. --Tim May Tim, I was away for a couple of weeks when Gunner had his cardiac event. I read most of the thread when I returned, and your take on the whole situation really got me thinking. Along the way I started thinking "This guy didn't come out of a job shop, he came out of the computer industry. I see from your post above that I had the right idea. A lot of what you said I tend to agree with. Lots of people make really bad choices and the public, meaning all of us, pay for the consequences. Then you write this post about survivalism and saving for a rainy day. Again you sounded very plausible. Of course you were working for one of those companies whose rise was so meteoric that it WAS possible for the workers to be paid well enough to stash some away for the future. Then you mentioned Andy Grove and I realized you just don't get it. You see Andy Grove didn't get where he is today because of all the good choices he made. He got there along with Bill Gates, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, George Westinghouse, and a long list of others because of, by your definition, the BAD choices they made! They all took huge risks that ultimately paid off, and are lauded as heroes because they won. Along the way though thousands of others took the same risks, made the same decisions, and by the fickle finger of fate wound up in the poor house. So if these great men followed you advice this great country would surely be a third rate nation. One might even argue that the safety net of public health and welfare is what enables so many people to hurl themselves against immovable objects again and again, until some succeed in moving them. By your standard I too have made very bad choices. I have tried again and again to start a manufacturing business to produce machines I have invented. All the machines I have invented actually worked, and have been in commercial use for 2 to 18 years. I also tried other ways of doing it. I've tried to have others do the manufacturing, I've tried licensing, I've tried giving the designs away. Despite the fact that I've gotten help from numerous experts who all say I've done the right things I have still failed. Each time some killer asteroid that no business plan could predict has come along and wiped me out. Compared to many others in this group I am quite well paid right now. I own everything I have, no loans of any kind. I have some savings, but far too little to even think about retiring in another 15 years, at 65. I lost a hell of a lot of money in my previous ventures. I also worked for nothing for years at a time, more than once. I got my social security statement recently, what I eye opener! I hadn't even realized how little I made over the past 20 years! My dad had a heart valve replaced recently. He was very lucky, he had good insurance, and has a nice nest egg put away too. That isn't what makes him lucky though. While starting his business he had a severe stroke which ended his career. The only reason he wasn't completely wiped out was because I was old enough and worked hard enough to keep it going upwards. The stroke wasn't in his business plan, and no amount of insurance would have made any difference to the company's survival. It was pure dumb luck that kept it going. Of course that makes him a lucky guy instead of the schmuck who made bad choices and wound up on welfare. What about me? I worry about becoming disabled for even a short time. I'd be in deep **** in no time at all. I don't have a business of my own that will continue to pay me if I can't work. What about getting really sick, and needing hugely expensive treatments? I have often wondered if I'd have the guts to refuse the really expensive ones and just go quietly. It certainly would be far better for my family, at least my meager assets would survive to help the living. In the end Tim, I decided you are just a piece of **** for attacking Gunner the way you did. Gary H. Lucas |
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Gary H. Lucas wrote:
Tim, In the end Tim, I decided you are just a piece of **** for attacking Gunner the way you did. No doubt about that! -- Rick |
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Gary H. Lucas wrote:
In the end Tim, I decided you are just a piece of **** for attacking Gunner the way you did. Gary H. Lucas The timing of his attack pretty much established that for me. WRT our health care system, it's time we wake up and fix it, starting with our politicians who are owned lock, stock and barrel by the pharmaceutical firms and the insurance industry. |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
"Gary H. Lucas" wrote (Superfluous verbiage snipped) In the end Tim, I decided you are just a piece of **** for attacking Gunner the way you did. ( 20 words of wisdom not snipped) Mark Gary H. Lucas |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
On 5 Jul 2004 16:17:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel
wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Retief rista -- Tim was in the right place, at the right time, and with some careful thought (to minimize, but never eliminate luck), he was successful in his stocks. It appears that you are jealous that you weren't as 'lucky'. And yet another from Carl. Gunner That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
In article , Gunner
wrote: On 5 Jul 2004 16:17:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Retief rista -- Tim was in the right place, at the right time, and with some careful thought (to minimize, but never eliminate luck), he was successful in his stocks. It appears that you are jealous that you weren't as 'lucky'. And yet another from Carl. Luck is not the factor. Plenty of people--many tens of millions--have savings, choose to obtain health insurance, and are not dependent on the State for their wife's care, their son's care, and on not paying all that they owe to hospitals, nurses, doctors, etc. who treat them. They choose to buy health insurace and have savings ahead of buying the extensive arsenal of high caliber weapons which CanopyCo. said he saw recently at Gunner's workshop. Of course, many tens of millions of Americans are quite a bit like Gunner: no savings, choose not to buy health insurance, have wives and children who watch t.v. and hang out in bars instead of working, and so on. The first category form the "basically prepared." Maybe not wealthy, but basically prepared. Prepared for health setbacks, job losses, etc. The second catgory form the "basically deadbeats." The famed "one paycheck away from being homeless" people who spend what they earn as soon as they get it, who buys rifles and handguns instead of squirreling away money or buying insurance, who complain that "there are no good jobs!" (because "Clinton exported them," or "Bush exported them," depending on their slant). More and more Americans, both left-wing welfare types and right-wing blue collar types, and even some laid-off CEOs and executives (watch CNN's Lou Dobbs for his New Protectionist commie crap), are drifting into the second category, nattering about the need for "a social safety net" (tax those who saved and bought insurance to pay for those who didn't), protectionism (have men with guns tell us who we may buy from), and "basic healthcare" (socialized medicine). It's a far worse danger than what we face from the Iraqi and Afghan freedom fighters who want their countries back from under the boot of the Americans. --Tim May |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:22:06 -0700, Tim May
wrote: Luck is not the factor. Plenty of people--many tens of millions--have savings, choose to obtain health insurance, and are not dependent on the State for their wife's care, their son's care, and on not paying all that they owe to hospitals, nurses, doctors, etc. who treat them. They choose to buy health insurace and have savings ahead of buying the extensive arsenal of high caliber weapons which CanopyCo. said he saw recently at Gunner's workshop. Of course, many tens of millions of Americans are quite a bit like Gunner: no savings, choose not to buy health insurance, have wives and children who watch t.v. and hang out in bars instead of working, and so on. The first category form the "basically prepared." Maybe not wealthy, but basically prepared. Prepared for health setbacks, job losses, etc. The second catgory form the "basically deadbeats." The famed "one paycheck away from being homeless" people who spend what they earn as soon as they get it, who buys rifles and handguns instead of squirreling away money or buying insurance, who complain that "there are no good jobs!" (because "Clinton exported them," or "Bush exported them," depending on their slant). More and more Americans, both left-wing welfare types and right-wing blue collar types, and even some laid-off CEOs and executives (watch CNN's Lou Dobbs for his New Protectionist commie crap), are drifting into the second category, nattering about the need for "a social safety net" (tax those who saved and bought insurance to pay for those who didn't), protectionism (have men with guns tell us who we may buy from), and "basic healthcare" (socialized medicine). It's a far worse danger than what we face from the Iraqi and Afghan freedom fighters who want their countries back from under the boot of the Americans. --Tim May Cliff-Glick Syndrome has taken a major blow? Cliff? Glickman? Where are you? |
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Sue wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:22:06 -0700, Tim May wrote: In article , Gunner wrote: On 5 Jul 2004 16:17:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Retief rista -- Tim was in the right place, at the right time, and with some careful thought (to minimize, but never eliminate luck), he was successful in his stocks. It appears that you are jealous that you weren't as 'lucky'. And yet another from Carl. [cut timmie's blather] Sometimes they *think* they are prepared, but things go to hell anyway. I've had clients in the evil welfare office who did everything you say they should. One particular case comes to mind (although this is only one of many) where dad had a good job, they were buying their house, had lots of savings, investments and so forth, one child still at home and one adult child. Dad had a massive heart attack, couldn't work, couldn't afford health insurance (Cobra) after they had run through all their savings and investments. Mom couldn't work because dad then had a stroke and couldn't be left alone. Private in home health nurse cost would have been more than mom could have earned. All they wound up with was his Social Security disability and small amount for her and the child. They sold their house (hadn't had it for very long so not much equity) and moved in with their married child. All they got from welfare was MediCal. Sometimes things just go to hell; it can happen to anyone who isn't "wealthy" like you are. Sue The right (or wrong) set of circumstances, and just about anyone can be out on the street. Don't matter how rich & famous (infamous?) someone may be, the only gaurantee is death. Any day, any moment, no certainty of seeing the day's end. Nor of being healthy and with a roof if it does come. michael |
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In article , "ATP"
writes: WRT our health care system, it's time we wake up and fix it, starting with our politicians who are owned lock, stock and barrel by the pharmaceutical firms and the insurance industry. Do you have anything else against the shrub? Recall how Gunner & his ilk took it when the Clintons suggested doing something? Or Kennedy (and probably others) before that? -- Cliff |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
On 6 Jul 2004 13:28:37 GMT, Carl Nisarel
wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Sue rista -- Sometimes things just go to hell; ... It's a lot easier for things to "just go to hell" for people like Mark who live paycheck to paycheck. Finally a bit of truth from Carl. Shall we set this in stone for posterity? Gunner That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:02:14 GMT, Gunner
calmly ranted: On 5 Jul 2004 16:17:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Retief rista -- Tim was in the right place, at the right time, and with some careful thought (to minimize, but never eliminate luck), he was successful in his stocks. It appears that you are jealous that you weren't as 'lucky'. And yet another from Carl. I'm surprised you haven't yet plonked Tim, Carl, and Lennie. They're hell on stents, dude. --- Chaos, panic, and disorder--my work here is done. http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development |
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On 6 Jul 2004 19:13:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel
wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 6 Jul 2004 13:28:37 GMT, Carl Nisarel Bjórrúnar skaltu Sue rista -- Sometimes things just go to hell; ... It's a lot easier for things to "just go to hell" for people like Mark who live paycheck to paycheck. Finally a bit of truth from Carl. You are, as usual, delusional, Mark. "truth" is not defined as 'Mark agrees with the statement' And yet another. Gunner "The entire population of Great Britain has been declared insane by their government. It is believed that should any one of them come in possession of a firearm, he will immediately start to foam at the mouth and begin kiling children at the nearest school. The proof of their insanity is that they actually believe this." -- someone in misc.survivalism |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:18:51 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 23:02:14 GMT, Gunner calmly ranted: On 5 Jul 2004 16:17:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Retief rista -- Tim was in the right place, at the right time, and with some careful thought (to minimize, but never eliminate luck), he was successful in his stocks. It appears that you are jealous that you weren't as 'lucky'. And yet another from Carl. I'm surprised you haven't yet plonked Tim, Carl, and Lennie. They're hell on stents, dude. I killfiled Tubby Tim a couple weeks ago. Cattle is moderately entertaining..and Lennie..well...Lennie is the reason that folks go to the car races..sooner or later there is gonna be a hell of a wreck and I want to be there to watch it when it happens. And sooner or later Lennie does involve himself in a wreck. Sad..but interesting. Sorta like watching a retarded kid trying to eat an icecream cone for the first time.... Gunner --- Chaos, panic, and disorder--my work here is done. http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development "The entire population of Great Britain has been declared insane by their government. It is believed that should any one of them come in possession of a firearm, he will immediately start to foam at the mouth and begin kiling children at the nearest school. The proof of their insanity is that they actually believe this." -- someone in misc.survivalism |
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On 7 Jul 2004 01:54:13 GMT, Carl Nisarel
wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 6 Jul 2004 19:13:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 6 Jul 2004 13:28:37 GMT, Carl Nisarel Bjórrúnar skaltu Sue rista -- Sometimes things just go to hell; ... It's a lot easier for things to "just go to hell" for people like Mark who live paycheck to paycheck. Finally a bit of truth from Carl. You are, as usual, delusional, Mark. "truth" is not defined as 'Mark agrees with the statement' And yet another. How cute! Mark's following me around like a little puppy. I just had to find out where the stink was coming from. Gunner "The entire population of Great Britain has been declared insane by their government. It is believed that should any one of them come in possession of a firearm, he will immediately start to foam at the mouth and begin kiling children at the nearest school. The proof of their insanity is that they actually believe this." -- someone in misc.survivalism |
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On 6 Jul 2004 13:28:37 GMT, Carl Nisarel
wrote: It's a lot easier for things to "just go to hell" for people like Mark who live paycheck to paycheck. Sure. And most of us have lived paycheck to paycheck at one time or another. But few had time during those periods to spend all day on Usenet lecturing on what's wrong with nearly everybody and everything. That's beyond goofy and well into weird. How weird? Well, we need a benchmark of weirdness, so we'll start here http://www.ucomics.com/newsoftheweird/index.phtml It's a collection of weird news articles, often featuring such items as the tale of the vocal poster-girl for a church-sponsored abstinence program.... who suddenly finds herself embarrassingly pregnant. Here's a sample - "In March, Awards World magazine sponsored the inaugural "Awards Awards" at London's Dorchester Hotel, handing out awards to members of the British awards-presentation industry for the year's best awards shows. Spokesperson Barbara Buchanan explained, "Everybody likes to win an award," even the people who give out awards (who staged ceremonies for about 1,000 major presentations in Britain last year). Although Buchanan called this year's program a success, she said it is disqualified from receiving any awards at next year's Awards Awards. [BBC News, 3-5-04]" Now, let's see if the following item might fit in at the site. "Using the frequently weird medium of Usenet, a California man is attempting to set a record for the most opinions *and* the most contradictions... ever. His campaign strategy is simple. For instance, while personally a wealth-challenged individual, he prefers to lecture on macroeconomics. He writes that he's knowledgeable about medical matters, yet cannot see the connection between a Dale Gribble lifestyle and hospital bills. A self-professed survivalist, he's fiercely critical of society's loss of self-reliance, while at the same time three generations of his own family require public assistance to the tune of a half-million dollars and counting. As if all this weren't enough to qualify for the record, the fellow seeks to clinch the title by claiming (from atop an office chair) that he's a "workaholic" and "well-grounded in reality", all the while obviously spending a huge portion of his life online, and posting his views hundreds of times per week." Yup. That's weirder than the Awards Awards and the pregnant abstinence spokesgirl put together. :-) Wayne |
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On 7 Jul 2004 13:37:50 GMT, Carl Nisarel
wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 7 Jul 2004 01:54:13 GMT, Carl Nisarel wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 6 Jul 2004 19:13:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 6 Jul 2004 13:28:37 GMT, Carl Nisarel Bjórrúnar skaltu Sue rista -- Sometimes things just go to hell; ... It's a lot easier for things to "just go to hell" for people like Mark who live paycheck to paycheck. Finally a bit of truth from Carl. You are, as usual, delusional, Mark. "truth" is not defined as 'Mark agrees with the statement' And yet another. How cute! Mark's following me around like a little puppy. I just had to find out where the stink was coming from. It seems that you aren't house-trained. And yet another Gunner "The entire population of Great Britain has been declared insane by their government. It is believed that should any one of them come in possession of a firearm, he will immediately start to foam at the mouth and begin kiling children at the nearest school. The proof of their insanity is that they actually believe this." -- someone in misc.survivalism |
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Cliff Huprich wrote:
In article , "ATP" writes: WRT our health care system, it's time we wake up and fix it, starting with our politicians who are owned lock, stock and barrel by the pharmaceutical firms and the insurance industry. Do you have anything else against the shrub? Recall how Gunner & his ilk took it when the Clintons suggested doing something? Or Kennedy (and probably others) before that? I think it goes beyond the shrub, although the right wing spin machine has certainly distorted the issue for the majority of feeble minded dittoheads and the like. |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
On 7 Jul 2004 16:06:30 GMT, Carl Nisarel
wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 7 Jul 2004 13:37:50 GMT, Carl Nisarel wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 7 Jul 2004 01:54:13 GMT, Carl Nisarel wrote: Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 6 Jul 2004 19:13:36 GMT, Carl Nisarel Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista -- On 6 Jul 2004 13:28:37 GMT, Carl Nisarel Bjórrúnar skaltu Sue rista -- Sometimes things just go to hell; ... It's a lot easier for things to "just go to hell" for people like Mark who live paycheck to paycheck. Finally a bit of truth from Carl. You are, as usual, delusional, Mark. "truth" is not defined as 'Mark agrees with the statement' And yet another. How cute! Mark's following me around like a little puppy. I just had to find out where the stink was coming from. It seems that you aren't house-trained. And yet another mess from Gunner. BAD PUPPY! A Y A Gunner "The entire population of Great Britain has been declared insane by their government. It is believed that should any one of them come in possession of a firearm, he will immediately start to foam at the mouth and begin kiling children at the nearest school. The proof of their insanity is that they actually believe this." -- someone in misc.survivalism |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 21:10:44 GMT, "ATP"
wrote: Cliff Huprich wrote: In article , "ATP" writes: WRT our health care system, it's time we wake up and fix it, starting with our politicians who are owned lock, stock and barrel by the pharmaceutical firms and the insurance industry. Do you have anything else against the shrub? Recall how Gunner & his ilk took it when the Clintons suggested doing something? Or Kennedy (and probably others) before that? I think it goes beyond the shrub, although the right wing spin machine has certainly distorted the issue for the majority of feeble minded dittoheads and the like. Speaking of which..how do you lefties like the Centrist candidates (quote from Hillary Bitch)? #1 Most liberal Democrat Kerry + #4 most Liberal Democrat Edwards = Centrist? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! Gunner "The entire population of Great Britain has been declared insane by their government. It is believed that should any one of them come in possession of a firearm, he will immediately start to foam at the mouth and begin kiling children at the nearest school. The proof of their insanity is that they actually believe this." -- someone in misc.survivalism |
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Tim May, was it "luck" (was Gunner: I'm back)
It being a dull day, I decide to respond to what Gunner
fosted Thu, 08 Jul 2004 04:51:27 GMT on misc.survivalism , viz: Speaking of which..how do you lefties like the Centrist candidates (quote from Hillary Bitch)? #1 Most liberal Democrat Kerry + #4 most Liberal Democrat Edwards = Centrist? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! For what the Democrat party base has become - John & John are the "centrists". Sheesh, a gold digging war criminal and a trial lawyer. What a pair. "John John is a no-no!" tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich "Do not argue with the forces of nature, for you are small, insignificant, and biodegradable." |
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