I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

walt
'91 fxr

"wallster" wrote in message
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I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please
feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

LOL, man that's small... looking at the pic w/ engine it's like "wow you
gotta sit WAY back there?!" then you remember the scale!

Tim

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Tooo coooool!

Pedroman
"Tim Williams" wrote in message
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"wallster" wrote in message
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I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please
feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

LOL, man that's small... looking at the pic w/ engine it's like "wow you
gotta sit WAY back there?!" then you remember the scale!

Tim

--
"I've got more trophies than Wayne Gretsky and the Pope combined!"
- Homer Simpson
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

You mention "trees" cut from a laser. What part is that? I am cycle
illiterate...

Stephen R.



"wallster" wrote in message
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I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please
feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

walt
'91 fxr

"S R" no email @ no spam.com wrote in message
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You mention "trees" cut from a laser. What part is that? I am cycle
illiterate...

Stephen R.


the triple trees are the upper and lower sections of the front fork that
holds the two side tubes that extend to the front wheel, then it attaches to
the frame at the neck. Because they are made from 3/16" steel, my plasma
cutter wouldn't cut them accuratly, so a laser cutting machine does a
cleaner job.

walt

Very slick Walt. Thank you for sharing.

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:12 -0400, "wallster"
wrote:

I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

walt
'91 fxr

"wallster" wrote in message
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I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please
feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

walt
'91 fxr

Geesus. Too much Amarican Chopper dude.
I think the pull start handle needs to be a lillte
bigger. no, seriously, this is a VERY? cool
project, and it looks "clean". So tell me, would
a 5-HP engine like that pull around a 205 Lb
40-year adult ? I've been dieing to have either
a mini-bike like that or a go-cart.

Mr Wizzard wrote in message
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"wallster" wrote in message
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I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please
feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

walt
'91 fxr

Geesus. Too much Amarican Chopper dude.
I think the pull start handle needs to be a lillte
bigger. no, seriously, this is a VERY? cool
project, and it looks "clean". So tell me, would
a 5-HP engine like that pull around a 205 Lb
40-year adult ? I've been dieing to have either
a mini-bike like that or a go-cart.

i hope it does... i'm a 41 year old 215 pounder and i plan on wheelin'
around the neighborhood on it soon.
thanks,
walt

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:12 -0400, "wallster" wrote:
I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

That's a big pull rope handle, dude. :-)

Actually looks like a cool project.

Gary

Way too cool Walt !!!

You have provided the inspiration for my son and I to build one !!

What kind of pipe bender do you use ?? I will either have to buy a bender
or
maybe just buy a Frame already made....Ebay has a ton of them.

BTW - your frame looks even nicer than some I saw on Ebay....Do I smell a
moneymaking opportunity ???

Later, Jeff

Gary Coffman wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:12 -0400, "wallster" wrote:
I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

That's a big pull rope handle, dude. :-)

Actually looks like a cool project.

Gary

Thanks Gary, the recoil handle is a monster. This engine came off of
an old snowblower and that was the original handle, i guess i better
change it. I have been consumed with this dumb project, looks simple
but there was alot of work involved so far. The real fun part was all
the tig welding, i could do that all day!

walt

On 19 Jun 2004 22:10:18 -0700, (wallster) wrote:
Gary Coffman wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:12 -0400, "wallster" wrote:
I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

That's a big pull rope handle, dude. :-)

Actually looks like a cool project.

Gary

Thanks Gary, the recoil handle is a monster. This engine came off of
an old snowblower and that was the original handle, i guess i better
change it. I have been consumed with this dumb project, looks simple
but there was alot of work involved so far. The real fun part was all
the tig welding, i could do that all day!

Don't you *dare* remove that handle. That just *makes* the whole
project. It is just absurd enough to work visually.

Gary

"Jeff Sellers" wrote in message
...
Way too cool Walt !!!

You have provided the inspiration for my son and I to build one !!

What kind of pipe bender do you use ?? I will either have to buy a
bender
or
maybe just buy a Frame already made....Ebay has a ton of them.

BTW - your frame looks even nicer than some I saw on Ebay....Do I smell a
moneymaking opportunity ???

Later, Jeff

Hey Jeff, i used a cheap pipe bender HF (the press with a mandrel type) and
some oxy acetylene in spots. It worked okay but a nice hydraulic hossfeld
bender would be great to own (someday) The frame itself is black pipe,
(.500" id) that i tack welded with a mig, then tig welded all the joints.
The neck was from an old bicycle that i adapted. The forks are .750" id
black pipe (I inserted .750" cold rolled round bar into it for strength)
The ebay frames would be easier, but i wanted something that looked like a
real miniature chopper. I dont think i'll make another though, this was just
one of those wacky ideas that i had to follow up on, kinda like the 4'
housefly i made and mounted on my mini-barn...
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/.../housefly4.jpg
....i think i've got issues!!
Good luck with your new project!

walt

"Gary Coffman" wrote in message
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On 19 Jun 2004 22:10:18 -0700, (wallster) wrote:
Gary Coffman wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:12 -0400, "wallster"
wrote:
I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project,
please feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

That's a big pull rope handle, dude. :-)

Actually looks like a cool project.

Gary

Thanks Gary, the recoil handle is a monster. This engine came off of
an old snowblower and that was the original handle, i guess i better
change it. I have been consumed with this dumb project, looks simple
but there was alot of work involved so far. The real fun part was all
the tig welding, i could do that all day!

Don't you *dare* remove that handle. That just *makes* the whole
project. It is just absurd enough to work visually.

Gary

I agree with Gary! It sets off the bike. I stayed up all night planning to
build me a bike now. My wife will hate you by the time I am done. Is the
black pipe rigid enough to hold? I have made several things with black pipe
and it work great for the projects that I used it for, but for a frame I
would think you would want something that did not have the malleability
issues BP has. Keep us posted on this as I will be building one too!

Scott Young

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:08:43 -0400, "wallster"
calmly ranted:

one of those wacky ideas that i had to follow up on, kinda like the 4'
housefly i made and mounted on my mini-barn...
http://www.metalworking.com/DropBox/.../housefly4.jpg
...i think i've got issues!!

Granted, but they're fun issues! I'll bet that thing gets
lots of tripletakes. Whatta hoot!


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I agree with Gary! It sets off the bike. I stayed up all night planning
to
build me a bike now. My wife will hate you by the time I am done. Is the
black pipe rigid enough to hold? I have made several things with black
pipe
and it work great for the projects that I used it for, but for a frame I
would think you would want something that did not have the malleability
issues BP has. Keep us posted on this as I will be building one too!

Scott Young


I was gonna use some chrome moly pipe but because of the design of this
particular frame (small and tight) bp will be fine (plus i'm cheap, wanted
to do this on a budget). The only area the bp was going to be a possible
problem was with the fork down tubes, that's why i inserted round bar to
reinforce it. The largest area of weight (me) will be over the rear wheel
where there's vertical pipe and steel plates that will support me. I
wouldn't take it off roadin' (ground clearance is about 3") but for just
goofing around, it will be fine. It's kind of a cool visual thing as well,
it will most likely sit in the garage 95% of the time.
walt

Thanks for the info, Walt !!

I'm leaning towards the purchased frame and then doin some OCC kind of
customizing on it. This way will be a bit quicker and I won't have to rush
out and buy a pipe bender. I also have my eyes on the Hossfeld.... if you
haven't already, send for their catalog. It makes for some pretty good
drool..Ooops, I mean reading.

And FWIW, I too dig the starter handle


Jeff






"wallster" wrote in message
...


I agree with Gary! It sets off the bike. I stayed up all night
planning
to
build me a bike now. My wife will hate you by the time I am done. Is
the
black pipe rigid enough to hold? I have made several things with black
pipe
and it work great for the projects that I used it for, but for a frame I
would think you would want something that did not have the malleability
issues BP has. Keep us posted on this as I will be building one too!

Scott Young


I was gonna use some chrome moly pipe but because of the design of this
particular frame (small and tight) bp will be fine (plus i'm cheap, wanted
to do this on a budget). The only area the bp was going to be a possible
problem was with the fork down tubes, that's why i inserted round bar to
reinforce it. The largest area of weight (me) will be over the rear wheel
where there's vertical pipe and steel plates that will support me. I
wouldn't take it off roadin' (ground clearance is about 3") but for just
goofing around, it will be fine. It's kind of a cool visual thing as well,
it will most likely sit in the garage 95% of the time.
walt

"wallster" wrote in message
...


I agree with Gary! It sets off the bike. I stayed up all night
planning
to
build me a bike now. My wife will hate you by the time I am done. Is
the
black pipe rigid enough to hold? I have made several things with black
pipe
and it work great for the projects that I used it for, but for a frame I
would think you would want something that did not have the malleability
issues BP has. Keep us posted on this as I will be building one too!

Scott Young


I was gonna use some chrome moly pipe but because of the design of this
particular frame (small and tight) bp will be fine (plus i'm cheap, wanted
to do this on a budget). The only area the bp was going to be a possible
problem was with the fork down tubes, that's why i inserted round bar to
reinforce it. The largest area of weight (me) will be over the rear wheel
where there's vertical pipe and steel plates that will support me. I
wouldn't take it off roadin' (ground clearance is about 3") but for just
goofing around, it will be fine. It's kind of a cool visual thing as well,
it will most likely sit in the garage 95% of the time.
walt



Caught my eye in the paper today...


http://www.detnews.com/2004/commutin...a06-188685.htm

Rick wrote in message
news

"wallster" wrote in message
...


I agree with Gary! It sets off the bike. I stayed up all night
planning
to
build me a bike now. My wife will hate you by the time I am done. Is
the
black pipe rigid enough to hold? I have made several things with
black
pipe
and it work great for the projects that I used it for, but for a frame
I
would think you would want something that did not have the
malleability
issues BP has. Keep us posted on this as I will be building one too!

Scott Young


I was gonna use some chrome moly pipe but because of the design of this
particular frame (small and tight) bp will be fine (plus i'm cheap,
wanted
to do this on a budget). The only area the bp was going to be a possible
problem was with the fork down tubes, that's why i inserted round bar to
reinforce it. The largest area of weight (me) will be over the rear
wheel
where there's vertical pipe and steel plates that will support me. I
wouldn't take it off roadin' (ground clearance is about 3") but for just
goofing around, it will be fine. It's kind of a cool visual thing as
well,
it will most likely sit in the garage 95% of the time.
walt



Caught my eye in the paper today...


http://www.detnews.com/2004/commutin...a06-188685.htm



I was at a motorcycle rally last weekend and there was some guy and his kid
zipping around on those small racers. I thought it was a major accident
waiting to happen. People were almost getting hit by this goofball. I guess
it's the nut behind the bars that causes these problems, a little common
sense goes a long way.
As far as me riding this in the neighborhood, my neighbors have gotten used
to me rebuilding and fixing motorcycles and "road testing them" plus, i
built a minibike from used parts a while ago for my kids when they were
younger. We still have a go kart my 14 year old got for her first
communion... just thank God, you're not one of my neighbors!
(i bribe them with draft beer... it works!)

walt

"wallster" wrote in message
...

Rick wrote in message
news

"wallster" wrote in message
Caught my eye in the paper today...


http://www.detnews.com/2004/commutin...a06-188685.htm



I was at a motorcycle rally last weekend and there was some guy and his
kid
zipping around on those small racers. I thought it was a major accident
waiting to happen. People were almost getting hit by this goofball. I
guess
it's the nut behind the bars that causes these problems, a little common
sense goes a long way.
As far as me riding this in the neighborhood, my neighbors have gotten
used
to me rebuilding and fixing motorcycles and "road testing them" plus, i
built a minibike from used parts a while ago for my kids when they were
younger. We still have a go kart my 14 year old got for her first
communion... just thank God, you're not one of my neighbors!
(i bribe them with draft beer... it works!)

walt


That would be cool with me-these kids around here don't make anything. When
I was their age I was putting a lawnmower motor on just about anything I
could find. Still remember my first go kart, with a Reo engine.

Sure wore out a lot of shoes : )

Its actually further along and the web page is out of date:
http://members.cox.net/escarcega-pho...er/minichopper

Its been fun but a lot of work and lots of details being worked out now.

More ideas can be had from:
http://www.customminibikes.com/

I bought their forks/trees/risers and built the rest from there.

Our bike has a new 90cc Huawei engine, Honda sold their tooling to Korea
for the 90-110cc engine. They are identical. Its a 3 speed with automatic
clutch and electric start. The engine show on the web page IS the Honda out
of the passport, but a good deal came along on the Huawei, so I opted for
brand new. It started out as a father/son project but now its just my
project. I need to finish mock up and get it to the painters. I'll show it
off and then sell it to recoup my investment.....

Marty

Marty Escarcega wrote in
:

Its actually further along and the web page is out of date:
http://members.cox.net/escarcega-pho...er/minichopper

Its been fun but a lot of work and lots of details being worked out
now.

More ideas can be had from:
http://www.customminibikes.com/

I bought their forks/trees/risers and built the rest from there.

Our bike has a new 90cc Huawei engine, Honda sold their tooling to
Korea for the 90-110cc engine. They are identical. Its a 3 speed with
automatic clutch and electric start. The engine show on the web page
IS the Honda out of the passport, but a good deal came along on the
Huawei, so I opted for brand new. It started out as a father/son
project but now its just my project. I need to finish mock up and get
it to the painters. I'll show it off and then sell it to recoup my
investment.....

Marty


Oh yea, still pricey too, watch out for all the little nickel and dime
parts. Sprockets, hubs cables seat material etc. Don't even think of
starting unless you have at least $500 to get going with.....
Much depends on what you already have and how elaborate you want to
go....I'm in OVER double that amount and not finished yet..

That would be cool with me-these kids around here don't make anything.
When
I was their age I was putting a lawnmower motor on just about anything I
could find. Still remember my first go kart, with a Reo engine.

Sure wore out a lot of shoes : )


yeah me too! we used to use scrap wood we scrounged in our garages and make
these go karts (had alot of ****ed off Fathers when they're lawn mowers were
missing wheels!) then graduated to mini bikes, custom bicycles, whatever we
could throw together on a hot summer day, couldn't keep us from building
something. My favorite memory of those huge go karts was the steering
system. We would use an old broom handle fed through a drilled hole in a two
by four and another at the end. The front axle had rope attached to each
side and wrapped around the broom handle (steering column) it actually
worked, not very well, but it worked!
Funny how kids dont make stuff like they used too anymore... i think because
we were told to "go out and play", afterall, nothing but soap opera on tv
back then.
walt

Oh yea, still pricey too, watch out for all the little nickel and dime
parts. Sprockets, hubs cables seat material etc. Don't even think of
starting unless you have at least $500 to get going with.....
Much depends on what you already have and how elaborate you want to
go....I'm in OVER double that amount and not finished yet..

Marty, i had seen your site when i got this brilliant idea of building this.
Your's is WAY more defined than mine. I wanted to build something cool for
as little as possible. (I have thousands invested in my harley... no sense
having the Mrs. kill me for building a high budget mini-bike)
I fell into a couple hundred bucks and this sounded like fun. With all my
parts aquired and paid for, i have a final build tally of $330.95
As far as the painter, "Mr spray can" did the job in flat black for under
$4.00!!
Cant wait to see your finished project, awesome so far!!

walt

"wallster" wrote in message
...



That would be cool with me-these kids around here don't make anything.
When
I was their age I was putting a lawnmower motor on just about anything I
could find. Still remember my first go kart, with a Reo engine.

Sure wore out a lot of shoes : )


yeah me too! we used to use scrap wood we scrounged in our garages and
make
these go karts (had alot of ****ed off Fathers when they're lawn mowers
were
missing wheels!) then graduated to mini bikes, custom bicycles, whatever
we
could throw together on a hot summer day, couldn't keep us from building
something. My favorite memory of those huge go karts was the steering
system. We would use an old broom handle fed through a drilled hole in a
two
by four and another at the end. The front axle had rope attached to each
side and wrapped around the broom handle (steering column) it actually
worked, not very well, but it worked!
Funny how kids dont make stuff like they used too anymore... i think
because
we were told to "go out and play", afterall, nothing but soap opera on tv
back then.
walt


My linkage was angle iron and a bell crank. There was no such thing as
welding for us, and the only power tool we had was a 1/4" electric drill.
Any larger holes were filed out after we rounded it with the bit as much as
we could. I can remember when someone actually bought a Comet clutch for $10
dollars-until then everything was belt drive with a tensioner (if you were
lucky-most things were push starts)

We also used to pound a wood roller from a reel-type lawn mower onto the
shaft of an engine and clamp it to the frame of a bicycle right behind the
seat. The roller would rub the tire and off we would go. Seems like we
always came up with something fun to do about 2 weeks before school started
again...

My linkage was angle iron and a bell crank. There was no such thing as
welding for us, and the only power tool we had was a 1/4" electric drill.
Any larger holes were filed out after we rounded it with the bit as much
as
we could. I can remember when someone actually bought a Comet clutch for
$10
dollars-until then everything was belt drive with a tensioner (if you were
lucky-most things were push starts)

We also used to pound a wood roller from a reel-type lawn mower onto the
shaft of an engine and clamp it to the frame of a bicycle right behind the
seat. The roller would rub the tire and off we would go. Seems like we
always came up with something fun to do about 2 weeks before school
started
again...


yep, we only had a drill as well. We used to just push each other around on
those beasts until we aquired an engine with a centrifical clutch...
That's funny about the two weeks before school started, wasn't that the
truth!, we would have all failed elementary school if it didn't get cold in
the fall, that was about the only thing that kept us indoors for an hour or
so.

walt

(wallster) wrote in message . com...
Gary Coffman wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:12 -0400, "wallster" wrote:
I've talked about it for weeks and finally started this project, please feel
free to give me you're input.
http://www.geocities.com/weldingwalt/mini-bike.html

That's a big pull rope handle, dude. :-)

Actually looks like a cool project.

Gary

Thanks Gary, the recoil handle is a monster. This engine came off of
an old snowblower and that was the original handle, i guess i better
change it. I have been consumed with this dumb project, looks simple
but there was alot of work involved so far. The real fun part was all
the tig welding, i could do that all day!

walt

Man, that is one of the coolest things I've seen in a L O N G time.
Great Job!

Ben
FXDWG

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:33:35 GMT, "Rick" wrote:

We also used to pound a wood roller from a reel-type lawn mower onto the
shaft of an engine and clamp it to the frame of a bicycle right behind the
seat. The roller would rub the tire and off we would go. Seems like we
always came up with something fun to do about 2 weeks before school started
again...

Take a look at the following link if you'd like to see what can be put
together from this parts list;

- Chinese bicycle
- chain-saw motor
- plastic bottle for fuel tank
- bent pipe from a bed frame for the exhaust. And what have you got?


http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,...5a4560,00.html

.@. wrote in message ...
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:33:35 GMT, "Rick" wrote:

We also used to pound a wood roller from a reel-type lawn mower onto the
shaft of an engine and clamp it to the frame of a bicycle right behind
the
seat. The roller would rub the tire and off we would go. Seems like we
always came up with something fun to do about 2 weeks before school
started
again...

Take a look at the following link if you'd like to see what can be put
together from this parts list;

- Chinese bicycle
- chain-saw motor
- plastic bottle for fuel tank
- bent pipe from a bed frame for the exhaust. And what have you got?


http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,...5a4560,00.html

"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they
will surprise you with their ingenuity. "

-George S. Patton

wallster wrote:

As far as me riding this in the neighborhood, my neighbors have gotten
used to me rebuilding and fixing motorcycles and "road testing them"
plus, i built a minibike from used parts a while ago for my kids when

On the other extreme, did anyone see the Monster Garage episode where they
built a bike (trike actually) out of a Peterbilt engine and rear axle?

Jerry Gardner wrote in message
...
wallster wrote:

As far as me riding this in the neighborhood, my neighbors have gotten
used to me rebuilding and fixing motorcycles and "road testing them"
plus, i built a minibike from used parts a while ago for my kids when

On the other extreme, did anyone see the Monster Garage episode where they
built a bike (trike actually) out of a Peterbilt engine and rear axle?

i saw that and thought that thing was freakin awesome! the only problem was
that the driver (rider?) couldn't see to the right because of the engine.
Practical? no... but damn cool sounding and looking!!
That crew was very talented.
walt

You mention "trees" cut from a laser. What part is that? I am cycle
illiterate...


Stephen,
When referring to a "tree" on motorcycles they are talking about the two pieces
that connect the front forks to the frame.
Dennis