Old lathe question
 

I've got an old Southbend lathe I recently took out of storage and set up.
Can anyone tell me what kind of oil to use in the lubrication reservoirs on
the bearings?

Thanks,
Walt

Old lathe question
 

Can anyone tell me what kind of oil to use in the lubrication reservoirs on the
bearings?


I'd use Heavy-Medium spindle oil.

Old lathe question
 

I'd use Heavy-Medium spindle oil.


Thanks. goingtogetspindleoil.mpg

Cheers,
Walt

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I'm guessing it's not super critical as my answer is different.

The south bend lathe works spindle oil (type "A") is light, the lightest
weight of the three flavors.

No idea how to convert that into some useful reference. It's definitely
loser to 3-in-1 than 30w in color & viscosity.

"WJ" wrote in message
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I've got an old Southbend lathe I recently took out of storage and set up.
Can anyone tell me what kind of oil to use in the lubrication reservoirs
on
the bearings?

Thanks,
Walt

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Bull****. Use 10 weight nondetergent. South Bend spindles can't stand heavy oil.

Grant

Peter H. wrote:

Can anyone tell me what kind of oil to use in the lubrication reservoirs on the
bearings?


I'd use Heavy-Medium spindle oil.

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Walt,

I've got an electronic copy of a SB lube chart if you would like it
(send me an e-mail and I'll send it right out). It describes what type
oil goes where. Also, on the Yahoo South Bend lathe forum FAQ they give
the following information:

Type A - Saybolt 100 -OR- ISO 22 (1 Qt.) e.g. "Mobil Velocite
Spindle bearing Oil No. 10"

Type B - Saybolt 150-240 -OR- ISO 32 - 46 (1 Qt.) e.g. "Turbine Oil,
SAE 10W to SAE 10"

Type C - Saybolt 250-500 -OR- ISO 68 (1 Gal) e.g. "non-detergent
multipurpose machine oil, SAE 20"

Way Oil - Saybolt 325 -OR- ISO 68 (1 Qt) e.g. "Way Lubricant, Oil base,
ISO 68 / SAE 20"

I highly recommend that you join this forum as there are a lot of folks
that subscribe to the site as there's a lot of good information within.

Dave Young

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In article , Grant Erwin says...

Bull****. Use 10 weight nondetergent. South Bend spindles can't stand heavy oil.

My personal preference: 0-30wt mobil one engine oil.

Jim

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In article ,
says...
Bull****. Use 10 weight nondetergent. South Bend spindles can't stand heavy oil.


Heavy spindle oil is ISO VG 22 which is approx SAE 10.

Ned Simmons

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ISO VG 22 (Mobil Velocite 10 or equiv) spindle or turbine oil which is about
SAE 5 (or SAE 10?), MSC sells Mobil Velocite 10 for ~$12/gallon, it is
useful around the house for other light lubrication too.

The other cups use ISO VG 32 or ISO VG46 hydraulic or R&O or circulating oil
(e.g. Mobil D.T.E. 24 or D.T.E. 25 or Shell Tellus 46) or ordinary SAE 20
*non-detergent* motor oil if I recall. I suspect these are not too critical.
This is also good gfor motor sleeve bearings and the like where the spindle
oil would be too light.

The ways want ISO VG 68 *way* oil, e.g. (Mobil Vactra #2 or Shell Tunna
T68) -- sticky, and smelly like gear oil, also ~$12 for a gallon jug of
Vactra from MSC.


"Peter H." wrote in message
...


Can anyone tell me what kind of oil to use in the lubrication reservoirs
on the
bearings?


I'd use Heavy-Medium spindle oil.

Old lathe question
 

I use red transmission fluid. Good for getting oil into the tight
spots and also cuts any residue from old oil. I use the kind you get
for around a $1 per quart.
Paul

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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:08:58 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote:
Peter H. wrote:
I'd use Heavy-Medium spindle oil.

Bull****. Use 10 weight nondetergent. South Bend spindles can't stand heavy oil.

Ah, Grant, Heavy-Medium spindle oil, ISO 22, is a bit lighter in viscosity than
SAE 10 weight motor oil, but has other properties that make it more suitable
for use as spindle oil than ordinary motor oil. It doesn't have the additives that
motor oils have to deal with acid combustion product blow by, it is more highly
refined, and it doesn't varnish up the way motor oil will after a few months
use. There's a reason the oil companies formulate different oils for different
purposes, and a reason that machine tool makers specify the oils that they
do rather than just telling you to use motor oil.

Gary

Old lathe question
 

I've got an old Southbend lathe I recently took out of storage and set up.
Can anyone tell me what kind of oil to use in the lubrication reservoirs on
the bearings?

Thanks,
Walt

I have using Oil of Olay on my machines spindles I sell. It's good on the ways
also after I file them true.
I sell many rebilded South Bent parts over and over again so call me if you
needing helping hands.
I miss old good days on Yahoo and Ebay selling and no hassles people blow up to
proportion.
I am here to help my frends.
Al

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In article , Gary Coffman says...

Ah, Grant, Heavy-Medium spindle oil, ISO 22, is a bit lighter in viscosity than
SAE 10 weight motor oil, but has other properties that make it more suitable
for use as spindle oil than ordinary motor oil. It doesn't have the additives
that
motor oils have to deal with acid combustion product blow by, it is more highly
refined, and it doesn't varnish up the way motor oil will after a few months
use.

All of this is completely true. However an old SB machine
has total-loss oiling, and motor oil used as a spindle
lube in them does not varnish up over time. Mobil One
motor oil (5-30 wt) performs better than the SB supplied
'correct' spindle oil, for me at least.

Jim

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I have using Oil of Olay on my machines spindles I sell.

LOL I bet that keeps them looking young and fresh...

Thanks for all the help, everyone.

Walt

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I also use Mobil One motor oil, in my 1939 SB with drip cup oilers (not the
wick type) and bronze bearings. seems to run just fine.

Brian


"jim rozen" wrote in message
...
In article , Gary Coffman
says...

Ah, Grant, Heavy-Medium spindle oil, ISO 22, is a bit lighter in
viscosity than
SAE 10 weight motor oil, but has other properties that make it more
suitable
for use as spindle oil than ordinary motor oil. It doesn't have the
additives
that
motor oils have to deal with acid combustion product blow by, it is more
highly
refined, and it doesn't varnish up the way motor oil will after a few
months
use.

All of this is completely true. However an old SB machine
has total-loss oiling, and motor oil used as a spindle
lube in them does not varnish up over time. Mobil One
motor oil (5-30 wt) performs better than the SB supplied
'correct' spindle oil, for me at least.

Jim

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:30:03 -0800, "WJ" brought
forth from the murky depths:


I have using Oil of Olay on my machines spindles I sell.

LOL I bet that keeps them looking young and fresh...

I'll never forget (forgive?) the commercial a few years ago.
It was for the "new, improved oil-free Oil of Olay" lotion.
thud


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Old lathe question
 

Mobil Velocite 10 (or equiv. ) spindle oil, ISO VG 22 (about SAE 5 to 10
wt). McMaster, Grainger or MSC all have it at about $12 for a gallon. SAE 5W
or 10W) weight non-detergent should work too.

Velocite 10 is heavy with respect to other spindle oils, e.g. Velocite 3,
and 6 (ISO VG 2 and 10 respectively) used for *really* fast spindles, but
very light compared to other machine oils, e.g. Mobil "DTE Light"
circulating oil is ISO VG 32 (~SAE 20 wt or ~ SAE 75W gear oil wt), "DTE
Heavy Medium" is ISO 68 (~ SAE 20 to 30 or ~SAE 80W), and "DTE Heavy" is ISO
100 (~SAE 30 wt or ~ SAE 85W wt).

The ISO viscosity grades are the nominal viscosities in centistokes at 40°C
(104°F), the SAE grades are based on the viscosity at 210°F or (with a W
suffix for winter) at 0°F -- or both, e.g. 20W-20 would have been tested at
both the low and high temperature viscosity ranges.

I'm not sure where the alternate set of SAE numbers for gear oils came
from -- maybe it was just to distinguish them from engine oils?


"Ned Simmons" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Bull****. Use 10 weight nondetergent. South Bend spindles can't stand
heavy oil.


Heavy spindle oil is ISO VG 22 which is approx SAE 10.

Ned Simmons