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Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is! http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh

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Does not explain what you do, what you do WELL, what you WANT to do,
what you WANT to do WELL, and the difference between all these.

No pics.

Usual comments about lousy navigation.

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Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh

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Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


Well, I have a comment, Leigh. When I go look at your ebay auctions, the
location shows up as "United States" when I'm looking at all the auctions at
once. A newish ebay feature allows you to show the location and even sort by
location, and there must be some trap when you are entering an auction which
makes it show up as "United States" instead of "Costa Mesa, CA" which is of
course where you are. So take a look at that.

For everyone else, Leigh is a good guy to buy from in my experience; also looks
to me to be a pretty fair machinist.

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On 1 May 2006 13:11:17 -0700, wrote:

Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh



Much better!!!

Im still not sure what "cat ruck man" stands for though.


Gunner, ducking and running


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As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
in biological Marxism." Big Pete, famous Usenet Racist
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Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


Equipment list - 404
about: Eye cancer! Blue letters on red background.

And what do you do?


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Hmmm..... I look at Leighs email addy more as ca truck man myself,
which would be a california trucker man............


On Mon, 01 May 2006 21:34:37 GMT, Gunner
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On 1 May 2006 13:11:17 -0700, wrote:

Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


Much better!!!

Im still not sure what "cat ruck man" stands for though.


Gunner, ducking and running


"I think this is because of your belief in biological Marxism.
As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
in biological Marxism." Big Pete, famous Usenet Racist


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Gunner wrote:
On 1 May 2006 13:11:17 -0700, wrote:

Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to
include the web address when I am asking you to critique the web
design. Here it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh



Much better!!!

Im still not sure what "cat ruck man" stands for though.


CA Truck Man.


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Gunner wrote:

Im still not sure what "cat ruck man" stands for though.


But you know what ruck is (from rucksack AKA backback). So he's one with
a cat on his back. Only knew that with old long haired wimen. But ...

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On 1 May 2006 13:11:17 -0700, wrote:

Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


Stop using an AOL member page for a company web page- no matter how
professional your company is, the AOL page and e-mail address makes it
look like you're a cheapskate working out of a toolshed.
Real companies use their company name as their domain name.

-Carl
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Much better!!!

Im still not sure what "cat ruck man" stands for though.


Gunner, ducking and running



You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin



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According to :
Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is! http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm


O.K. I can do more with that. :-)


The first thing that I notice is that the "back" link from the
machines-for-sale page is pointing somewhere wrong.

I note that that page appears to be a single page with multiple
entry points -- you might want to break it up into multiple pages so
when it grows it does drown someone in lathes who is looking for a drill
press. Download time can be a killer, as is the case in the pages of at
least one of the sites which sells VFDs and motors.

Of course, some of the other links don't go anywhere yet as
well, but the "back" links should be fixed early. Of course, the
browser's own back arrow will still work -- unless someone gets passed a
link to a sub-page and they want to see what else you offer -- or how to
contact you. "Equipment list" is one which leads nowhere, instead of to
an "under construction" page.

FWIW -- I'm visitor 114 -- and visitor 117. :-)

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On Tue, 02 May 2006 02:47:20 GMT, Carl Byrns
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On 1 May 2006 13:11:17 -0700, wrote:

Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


Stop using an AOL member page for a company web page- no matter how
professional your company is, the AOL page and e-mail address makes it
look like you're a cheapskate working out of a toolshed.
Real companies use their company name as their domain name.

-Carl


Leigh is probably proofing the site before putting up on his
domain..if www.marmachine.com is his.

Remember..he is asking for critque.

Gunner

"I think this is because of your belief in biological Marxism.
As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
in biological Marxism." Big Pete, famous Usenet Racist
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In article .com,
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Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


Looks pretty amateur. Are you a pro machinist or an amateur? How do you
want to come across? (Yes, these are rhetorical questions.) I would
suggest you hire a pro designer and a copy writer.

Some specifics:

The "about" graf should be on the opening page. If the visitor doesn't
"get" what you do from the first page, they probably won't bother
looking further.

Bad nav/missing links as others noted. You also need your own domain.

Each page should have consistent elements. As a starting point, think in
terms of a "letterhead."

Mar Machine logo should be anti-aliased, it's got the jaggies.

Are the "products" you manufacture important? If so, why are they at the
bottom of the page? I would move them to a more prominent place (maybe
the home page) and add pictures.

No pictures anywhere on the site.

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I think he meant to write "cat duck man", but mistyped it.

I think it refers to some hideous cross-breeding experiments he tried
in his crazy youth, but I could be wrong.

Or maybe it was "CA duck man", a reference to his favorite animated
show. Duckman Rocks!

Jeff Polaski

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On 1 May 2006 13:11:17 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth:

Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

That's a wee bit different from the 2003 site start, Leigh. g


Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


So, is Pete working off a machinery purchase by trading the site work?
If not, I might be talked into it. (Web development is my day job.)

Remind Pete never to enlarge a graphic via HTML, it makes even more
jaggy, such as the header graphic below:
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/ma...ELLANEOU-25431


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John Martin wrote:

You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin


I thought that was a "scrum".


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Gary Brady wrote:

I thought that was a "scrum".



That's an anatomical part.
Randy
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 13:49:05 GMT, Gary Brady
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John Martin wrote:

You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin


I thought that was a "scrum".


Yup. Loose ruck is similar when you're fighting over a loose ball.
That happens a lot, because once you're tackled, you have to drop the
ball. If you don't, they're free to fight for the ball while you're
still hanging onto it.

Pete Keillor (3 yrs. at tighthead prop)
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On Tue, 02 May 2006 09:42:24 GMT, Gunner
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On Tue, 02 May 2006 02:47:20 GMT, Carl Byrns
wrote:

On 1 May 2006 13:11:17 -0700, wrote:

Ok! So I'm stupid. I think it would be somewhat intelligent to include
the web address when I am asking you to critique the web design. Here
it is!
http://members.aol.com/catruckman/marmach/marmach.htm

Sorry for wasting your time on the first post. Leigh


Stop using an AOL member page for a company web page- no matter how
professional your company is, the AOL page and e-mail address makes it
look like you're a cheapskate working out of a toolshed.
Real companies use their company name as their domain name.

-Carl


Leigh is probably proofing the site before putting up on his
domain..if www.marmachine.com is his.

Remember..he is asking for critque.


Which is what he got. If he had said he was going to use
www.marmachine.com , fine and dandy. Other folks have already pointed
out the graphics and functionality problems- my beef is that a home
page looks cheap.

-Carl
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 13:49:05 GMT, Gary Brady
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John Martin wrote:

You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin


I thought that was a "scrum".


So did I. Least last time I played rugby. Albeit quite some years ago.

This of course is somewhat similiar to the same tactic employed by
politicians, but that term is "scum"

Gunner

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As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
in biological Marxism." Big Pete, famous Usenet Racist


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On Sat, 06 May 2006 10:26:09 -0400, Pete Keillor
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 13:49:05 GMT, Gary Brady
wrote:

John Martin wrote:

You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin


I thought that was a "scrum".


Yup. Loose ruck is similar when you're fighting over a loose ball.
That happens a lot, because once you're tackled, you have to drop the
ball. If you don't, they're free to fight for the ball while you're
still hanging onto it.

Pete Keillor (3 yrs. at tighthead prop)


Is that somehow related to "ruckus"?

Gunner

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As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 22:14:00 GMT, Gunner
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 13:49:05 GMT, Gary Brady
wrote:

John Martin wrote:

You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin


I thought that was a "scrum".


So did I. Least last time I played rugby. Albeit quite some years ago.

This of course is somewhat similiar to the same tactic employed by
politicians, but that term is "scum"

Gunner

You a old rugby player, too? That explains a lot.

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On Sat, 06 May 2006 18:23:33 -0400, Pete Keillor
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 22:14:00 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Sat, 06 May 2006 13:49:05 GMT, Gary Brady
wrote:

John Martin wrote:

You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin

I thought that was a "scrum".


So did I. Least last time I played rugby. Albeit quite some years ago.

This of course is somewhat similiar to the same tactic employed by
politicians, but that term is "scum"

Gunner

You a old rugby player, too? That explains a lot.

Pete Keillor



Well..I sorta dabbled at it. But rodeo was more fun and Im not much of
a team player..shrug, and frankly..riding bulls and broncs was safer.

Gunner

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As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 06:01:03 GMT, Gunner
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 18:23:33 -0400, Pete Keillor
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 22:14:00 GMT, Gunner
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snip
So did I. Least last time I played rugby. Albeit quite some years ago.

This of course is somewhat similiar to the same tactic employed by
politicians, but that term is "scum"

Gunner

You a old rugby player, too? That explains a lot.

Pete Keillor



Well..I sorta dabbled at it. But rodeo was more fun and Im not much of
a team player..shrug, and frankly..riding bulls and broncs was safer.

Gunner


I never was that big of a team player, either. Maybe it was the beer
and parties... and my size 8 head is hard as hell. That's why I
played prop.

As far as rodeo, I grew up working with cows (as well as rice and
cropdusting), but never had an urge to get on one of the damn things,
and I think you can take your tongue out of your cheek now as far as
it being safer. My brother jumped down in the loading chute to kick a
yearling in the rear to get it to move. It moved, alright. It
managed to turn around and ran right over him. I remember him being a
bit sorer than I ever was after a rugby game.

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xray wrote:

I Know there is a long history in the groups, but maybe we could start a
new trend here?


Filter as soon as you find a Gunner's answers in the third row.

No need to answer, I did it right now. :-)


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On Sun, 07 May 2006 07:47:32 -0400, Pete Keillor
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 06:01:03 GMT, Gunner
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 18:23:33 -0400, Pete Keillor
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 22:14:00 GMT, Gunner
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snip
So did I. Least last time I played rugby. Albeit quite some years ago.

This of course is somewhat similiar to the same tactic employed by
politicians, but that term is "scum"

Gunner

You a old rugby player, too? That explains a lot.

Pete Keillor



Well..I sorta dabbled at it. But rodeo was more fun and Im not much of
a team player..shrug, and frankly..riding bulls and broncs was safer.

Gunner


I never was that big of a team player, either. Maybe it was the beer
and parties... and my size 8 head is hard as hell. That's why I
played prop.

As far as rodeo, I grew up working with cows (as well as rice and
cropdusting), but never had an urge to get on one of the damn things,
and I think you can take your tongue out of your cheek now as far as
it being safer. My brother jumped down in the loading chute to kick a
yearling in the rear to get it to move. It moved, alright. It
managed to turn around and ran right over him. I remember him being a
bit sorer than I ever was after a rugby game.

Pete


G

Well..with rodeo..you only got one citter trying to kill you..and in
rugby..you got the other team, and occasionally some of your own..and
they tend to out weigh most bulls and broncs. And while Ive been a
tad hurt here and there...Ive never had a bull punch me. And you only
gotta play for 8 seconds.



Gunner

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As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 07:15:06 -0700, xray
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 07:47:32 -0400, Pete Keillor
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s far as rodeo, I grew up working with cows (as well as rice and
cropdusting), but never had an urge to get on one of the damn things,
and I think you can take your tongue out of your cheek now as far as
it being safer.


Ummm. When the conversation seems to be taking a fork this far Off
Topic, it might be a nice courtesy to change something in the title to
branch it off from the original.

I Know there is a long history in the groups, but maybe we could start a
new trend here?

Doubt it'll catch on, but it might help separate the wheat from the
chaff.



Separating the wheat from the chaff? Simple squirrel cage fan and
some vibrating screens works pretty well for that.

See...right back on metal working content.

Gunner

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As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural
patterns relating to race would cause a conflict with your belief
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Gary Brady wrote:
John Martin wrote:

You're not getting out enough, Gunner. Ruck is a rugby term - it's
when the forwards all lock up together over the ball and try to push
the other team off it.

I'll be damned if I know how he gets cats to do it, though.

John Martin


I thought that was a "scrum".


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When I started playing in 1964 (prop and second row), scrum was applied
to the forwards in general, and to when they formed up over the ball -
a formal scrum or a loose scrum. Ruck seems to have taken over, at
least for the loose scrum.

John Martin

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Though others have said the same, but I will add that more pics are
needed. How one can think that someone will become interested in a
several hundred (or thousand) dollar item without photos has always
been a mystery to me. You are *selling*, are you not?

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