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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:33:03 -0600, "gfulton" wrote:
That's a reasonable opinion, John. But, from my experience, the most rabid Southern Baptist or Pentecostal wouldn't raise a pimple on a radical Islamist's ass. They pale to insignificance beside that level of absolute madness. It's a sight to behold, I'll tell you. Fundies of any stripe .. it's all similar superstitions for the gullible & weak-minded. They are much like wingers & gunnutz. The real issue is social control of nutcases. -- Cliff |
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Cliff wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:33:03 -0600, "gfulton" wrote: That's a reasonable opinion, John. But, from my experience, the most rabid Southern Baptist or Pentecostal wouldn't raise a pimple on a radical Islamist's ass. They pale to insignificance beside that level of absolute madness. It's a sight to behold, I'll tell you. Fundies of any stripe .. it's all similar superstitions for the gullible & weak-minded. They are much like wingers & gunnutz. The real issue is social control of nutcases. And therein lies the essence of the left wingnut psyche that paints them as fanatics of the most deluded persuasion. They believe all life's problems can be solved with "social controls". This is the very reason so many actors, musicians, and other "social elites" are left wingnuts. They, like you, quite *literally* live in a fantasy that seldom if ever allows them to see things for what they truly are. In fact the only difference between a rabidly left political hack like Jabba the Moore and you is he actually makes some coin at it, and you're embarrassing yourself in public for nothing. The right can be equally deceptive and twice as anal retentive, but at least their fanaticism has some level of grounding in reality and common sense. It's almost unheard of for a conservative to argue a point that doesn't have at least a fact or two floating around to back it up, which of course whips fact free left wingnuts into an even bigger froth when they try to defend themselves and their indefensible positions. There's nothing in this world that lays waste to a pillar of idealism, than a wrecking ball of fact. |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote:
The right can be equally deceptive and twice as anal retentive Found those "WMDs" yet? -- Cliff |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote:
The right can be equally deceptive and twice as anal retentive, but at least their fanaticism has some level of grounding in reality and common sense. Found those "WMDs" yet? It's almost unheard of for a conservative to argue a point that doesn't have at least a fact or two floating around to back it up Found those "WMDs" yet? How about "god"? -- Cliff |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote:
There's nothing in this world that lays waste to a pillar of idealism, than a wrecking ball of fact. Found those "WMDs" yet? Still stooped over? -- Cliff |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote:
In fact the only difference between a rabidly left political hack like Jabba the Moore The guy with the pointed questions about endless neocon lies? -- Cliff |
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Please read "America's Secret War - Inside the Hidden Worldwide Struggle
Between America and It's Enemies" by George Friedman [founder of STRATFOR]. Another book is "Disinformation" which takes on 20 myths. From your parroting, perhaps a nice book called "North Korea" by Bruce Cumings would be more to your liking. Or perhaps Noam Choamsky? How about the super researcher Michael Moore? Read "Do as I Say, Not As I Do". Please consider what a policeman does when confronted with a individual with a realistic looking weapon. If the perp makes a threatening move and the policeman has cause to believe he's in imminent danger, he can stop the threat. Saddam makes like he has WMD. He used them before. Why not again? In nautical terms, "Hoisted by your own petard". Cliff wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote: There's nothing in this world that lays waste to a pillar of idealism, than a wrecking ball of fact. Found those "WMDs" yet? Still stooped over? |
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In misc.survivalism J. Francis wrote:
The right can be equally deceptive and twice as anal retentive, but at least their fanaticism has some level of grounding in reality and common sense. Is that why they handle serpents and speak in tongues? Common sense you say? Tell Pat Robertson that he has common sense. And then while you are at it, tell George Bush. -- A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. --Edward R. Murrow |
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In misc.survivalism Louis Ohland wrote:
In nautical terms, "Hoisted by your own petard". They use petards on boats? Since when? Maybe you should get your other "facts" straight before you post again... -- A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. --Edward R. Murrow |
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In misc.survivalism J. Clarke wrote:
wrote: In misc.survivalism J. Francis wrote: The right can be equally deceptive and twice as anal retentive, but at least their fanaticism has some level of grounding in reality and common sense. Is that why they handle serpents and speak in tongues? Common sense you say? I'm sorry, but I don't see where that has anything to do with common sense or lack of same, nor what it has to do with the "right". I'm sorry. I suppose my comment could have been stronger had I referred to the purported "grounding in reality" of those who handle serpents. I'll stand corrected by you: All those who demonstrate their belief in supernatural intervention by risking death have common sense. Moreover, they have a strong grounding in reality. Hey - its only "common sense" that those with certain types of beliefs in certain supernatural forces will not get bitten, eh? That's how the "real world" works! Thanks for your correction. Tell Pat Robertson that he has common sense. He does. Don't confuse a con artist with a fool. I'll take your word for it. And then while you are at it, tell George Bush. Poor ol' George. I agree that he's not really up to the task with which he has been confronted but nobody else who wants the job looks to be any better. One main reason he is not up for the job is his lack of common sense. Can you admit that much? -- A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. --Edward R. Murrow |
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I put the term that I'm familiar with up first. Here's one to chew
on. Enjoy! http://www.editorscanberra.org/July02.htm#naut YMMV Hoisted by one's own petard The 'petard' was a small cask of black powder used to prime cannon fuses. During a battle a petard was stored alongside each gun. Occasionally, a careless crewman would set one off while lighting a fuse, thereby 'hoisting' himself in the air. The expression was used by English sailors describing the inept French gunners. Louis Ohland wrote: Please read "America's Secret War - Inside the Hidden Worldwide Struggle Between America and It's Enemies" by George Friedman [founder of STRATFOR]. Another book is "Disinformation" which takes on 20 myths. From your parroting, perhaps a nice book called "North Korea" by Bruce Cumings would be more to your liking. Or perhaps Noam Choamsky? How about the super researcher Michael Moore? Read "Do as I Say, Not As I Do". Please consider what a policeman does when confronted with a individual with a realistic looking weapon. If the perp makes a threatening move and the policeman has cause to believe he's in imminent danger, he can stop the threat. Saddam makes like he has WMD. He used them before. Why not again? In nautical terms, "Hoisted by your own petard". Cliff wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote: There's nothing in this world that lays waste to a pillar of idealism, than a wrecking ball of fact. Found those "WMDs" yet? Still stooped over? |
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Cliff wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote: In fact the only difference between a rabidly left political hack like Jabba the Moore The guy with the pointed questions about endless neocon lies? Im sorry? We're you trying to make yourself look like a fruitcake's inbred cousin by defending an attention whore like Moore that even most left wingnuts won't go near, or are you just following me around personally trying to dry hump my leg? *snicker* My accurate assessment of left wingnuttery must have truly struck a nerve, Cliff, for you to spaz out and reply to it 4 times... three with the same screeching, and two to the exact same passage. Thank you. It's always nice to be reminded you've done an excellent job. |
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J. Francis wrote:
which of course whips fact free left wingnuts into an even bigger froth when they try to defend themselves and their indefensible positions. There's nothing in this world that lays waste to a pillar of idealism, than a wrecking ball of fact. Tell us exactly why it is that you are frothing? I count 17 lines of your froth to 2 lines of Cliff's froth. You're one amazing cappuccino in response to Cliff's latte that's for sure. |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:45:03 GMT, "J. Francis"
wrote: Cliff wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote: In fact the only difference between a rabidly left political hack like Jabba the Moore The guy with the pointed questions about endless neocon lies? Im sorry? We're you trying to make yourself look like a fruitcake's inbred cousin by defending an attention whore like Moore that even most left wingnuts won't go near, or are you just following me around personally trying to dry hump my leg? *snicker* My accurate assessment of left wingnuttery must have truly struck a nerve, Cliff, for you to spaz out and reply to it 4 times... three with the same screeching, and two to the exact same passage. Thank you. It's always nice to be reminded you've done an excellent job. Clif the Noid..was my fan club until I kill filed him..now that I dont pay him any attention..its as I expected..he will find another high class opponent to try to get his 30 seconds of fame from. Looks like you are it. Gunner "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:40:57 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote: tell George Bush. Poor ol' George. I agree that he's not really up to the task with which he has been confronted Having another vacation crisis is he? Where to go or what to do? http://www.rappincowboy.com/uploaded...ing-709346.jpg -- Cliff |
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Louis Ohland wrote:
I put the term that I'm familiar with up first. Here's one to chew on. Enjoy! http://www.editorscanberra.org/July02.htm#naut YMMV Hoisted by one's own petard The 'petard' was a small cask of black powder used to prime cannon fuses. During a battle a petard was stored alongside each gun. Occasionally, a careless crewman would set one off while lighting a fuse, thereby 'hoisting' himself in the air. The expression was used by English sailors describing the inept French gunners. Will you be regaling us with the etymology of Brass Monkeys next? Sheesh, let it lie. TK -- At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence. |
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Nah, Brass Monkeys are not my forte. I'd say that I did my homework and
found two credible explanations, not that the question was really looking for clarification. Getting a bit despondent trying to find Sieg Super X3 mills... TDKozan wrote: Hoisted by one's own petard Will you be regaling us with the etymology of Brass Monkeys next? Sheesh, let it lie. |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:45:03 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote:
Cliff wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote: In fact the only difference between a rabidly left political hack like Jabba the Moore The guy with the pointed questions about endless neocon lies? Im sorry? We're you trying to make yourself look like a fruitcake's inbred cousin by defending an attention whore like Moore that even most left wingnuts won't go near, or are you just following me around personally trying to dry hump my leg? Found those "WMDs" yet? Moore seemed correct too ..... http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0517-35.htm *snicker* My accurate assessment of left wingnuttery must have truly struck a nerve, Cliff, for you to spaz out and reply to it 4 times... three with the same screeching, and two to the exact same passage. Yep. Wingers look pretty stupid by now, just as they did long ago. Found those "WMDs" yet? Thank you. It's always nice to be reminded you've done an excellent job. You keep bending over ... not a pretty picture. -- Cliff |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:52:38 +0100, Guido wrote:
J. Francis wrote: which of course whips fact free left wingnuts into an even bigger froth when they try to defend themselves and their indefensible positions. There's nothing in this world that lays waste to a pillar of idealism, than a wrecking ball of fact. Tell us exactly why it is that you are frothing? I count 17 lines of your froth to 2 lines of Cliff's froth. You're one amazing cappuccino in response to Cliff's latte that's for sure. He may be a tad upset about being so gullible ..... the "WMD" (and other) business may be sinking in. "May." When lies are plan #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 & #6 he's wondering about #7 .... -- Cliff |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote:
Guido wrote: which of course whips fact free left wingnuts into an even bigger froth when they try to defend themselves and their indefensible positions. There's nothing in this world that lays waste to a pillar of idealism, than a wrecking ball of fact. Tell us exactly why it is that you are frothing? I count 17 lines of your froth to 2 lines of Cliff's froth. You're one amazing cappuccino in response to Cliff's latte that's for sure. You poor, misguided fool. Did you bother investing a couple minutes in reading the subthread were replying to? Probably not, or you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself by missing Cliff's clownish 4-post spaz session, two of which were replies to the same quoted text. Your post was too good for only one reply VBG. Read for context .. What an amusing bit of irony... I whip Cliff onto a multi-post frenzy, and you try to "defend" him by becoming his dollop of whipped cream topping. *laugh* I smell old eggs .... -- Cliff |
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:04:06 -0700, TDKozan wrote:
Louis Ohland wrote: I put the term that I'm familiar with up first. Here's one to chew on. Enjoy! http://www.editorscanberra.org/July02.htm#naut YMMV Hoisted by one's own petard The 'petard' was a small cask of black powder used to prime cannon fuses. During a battle a petard was stored alongside each gun. Occasionally, a careless crewman would set one off while lighting a fuse, thereby 'hoisting' himself in the air. The expression was used by English sailors describing the inept French gunners. Will you be regaling us with the etymology of Brass Monkeys next? Sheesh, let it lie. TK Actually..no..a petard was a black powder device nailed to the gates or walls of a village/keep/castle, to blow a hole in the object..a breeching charge as it were. The nail type device it was attached to ...thats what was ment..when you were hung by the neck until dead, hanging from your own petard or blown to pieces by a short fuse. There is also some conjecture..that in French..petard is also used to describe a fart. Usually a load obnoxious one..that sickens even the fartee...hence..done in by your own fart. Shrug..pick one that tickles your fancy. The known facts point to the breeching charge. Isnt a mind full of trivia a wonderful thing to own? Gack..... Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Cliff wrote:
I smell old eggs .... Try bathing. Soap... water... I'm sure you've seen pictures... |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis" wrote:
Cliff wrote: I smell old eggs .... Try bathing. Soap... water... I'm sure you've seen pictures... He gave up on the rational bits. Found those "WMDs" yet? -- Cliff |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:00:02 GMT, "J. Francis"
wrote: Cliff wrote: I smell old eggs .... Try bathing. Soap... water... I'm sure you've seen pictures... Now if it were a smell of cottage cheese..or rising bread...he should use Vagistat. Gunner "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 |
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Gunner wrote:
There is also some conjecture..that in French..petard is also used to describe a fart. Usually a load obnoxious one..that sickens even the fartee...hence..done in by your own fart. Can't be that one. Everyone knows French **** don't stink. Just ask Chirac. |
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