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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 03:45:30 -0800, Jim Dauen
wrote: [i] Excitable Boy wrote: Jim Dauen wrote in message ... And then there is there are now the testimonies of the people aboard the River boat that were there during the action in which Kerry got his silver star. Karl Rove was there, too ? Wow, what a coincidence. I have been researching Kerry's votes in the Senate since his first win in 1982. Well there are two things that stand out. First is Kerry missed 56% of all the votes. You talk about G.W. Bush being AWOL it appears by his voting record that Kerry has been AWOL from the Senate for 12 of his 24 years. During the debate on the 87 billion aid package to Iraq after the war, John F. Kerry made many speeches in opposition to the aid package. When the vote was finally taken what was his vote, (Teddy Kennedy voted for the aid) as usual Kerry was absent. (Boston Globe article Susan Milligan Staff reporter) John F. Kerry killed in committee the senate bill that would have enacted HR2833 (Human Rights for Viet Nam) which passed the House of Representatives by a margin of 418 to 0. Could it be that his wife's commercial interests and his own through the firm of Colliers International LTD. (Which has the sole real estate, Banking and trading rights between the United States and with Viet Nam) may have determined his actions. (Letter from Viet Si to John Kerry ) Following from a article in he New York times (01/24/04) For example, at the end of the cold war, Mr. Kerry advocated scaling back the Central Intelligence Agency, but after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, he complained about a lack of intelligence capability. In the 1980's, he opposed the death penalty for terrorists who killed Americans abroad, but he now supports the death penalty for terrorist acts. In the 1990's, he joined with Republican colleagues to sponsor proposals to end tenure for public school teachers and allow direct grants to religion-based charities, measures that many Democratic groups opposed. In 1997, he voted to require elderly people with higher incomes to pay a larger share of Medicare premiums. (By Judy Mathewson, Ottaway News Service) FAST TRACK: Kennedy and Kerry split on President Clinton's request for authority to negotiate international trade agreements that Congress must then accept or reject on an all-or-nothing basis. Kerry supported granting the president's request while Kennedy opposed it. More than two-thirds of the Senate agreed with Kerry, however, ending a filibuster against the so-called "fast-track" bill. From a Gay Activist web site 0} NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT OF 2001 Date: 6-14-01 Bill Number: HR 1 Votes: For=91 Against=8 Bill introduced by Rep. John A. Boehner (R) [8] Ohio Vote for a bill that has two anti-gay amendments attached to it. The first amendment will block federal funds to public and private high schools that refuse to allow military recruiters on campus. The second amendment will block federal funds to public school systems that deny the Boy Scouts of America equal access to facilities. Kerry voted against this bill (From Radio Free West Hartford (Very leftist)) Rating Political Candidates John F. Kerry Likeability - 2 More fascinating to look at than actually likeable, John Kerry has that Frankenstien's monster meets Dan Rather quality which is always fun in a national political candidate. Governmental Experience - 3 Senator Kerry has been around for a good long time, yet his propensity for missing controversial Senate votes leaves me to wonder if he is capable of taking a strong stand on what he would like to order for dinner. Intelligence - 3 In spite of his oft' commented upon "frenchness", John isn't stupid. Of course, that doesn't mean he's any kind of genius either. After all, how bright is it to believe that if you just start calling yourself John F. Kerry instead of, simply, John Kerry, you'll actually have a better shot at the presidency? Integrity - 2 Mr. Kerry... uh, I mean F. Kerry has spent more time straddling the fence than Linda Lovelace did straddling her cinematic co-stars. Originality - 4 Perhaps John's strongest suit is his unusual looks, and if he ever should become president, you can count on him scaring the bejezus out of foreign dignitaries and their spouses on a regular basis. (From GOP Web site biased but independently verfied by cong. Rec) Kerry Called For "Fiscal Responsibility," Just Like When He Voted For The 1993 Tax Hike, The Largest In History. In His Senate Career, Kerry Has Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times. Kerry Voted At Least Five Times To Raid The Social Security Trust Fund. (as if this is a big deal there ain't no money in there anyway) QUESTIONS RAISED OVER CASH AND KERRY NOMINATIONS! In 1984, When Kerry First Ran For U.S. Senate He Promised To Be “Persistent Watchdog Over Presidential Appointments.” “When he first ran for the Senate, Kerry promised voters he would carefully choose nominees on merit. ‘I will act as a persistent watchdog over presidential appointments to ensure that only people of integrity, ability and commitment hold positions of power in our national government,’ Kerry wrote in a June 1984 fund-raising appeal.” However, On At Least Three Occasions Kerry Has Recommended Individuals For Positions At Federal Home Loan Banks Immediately Before Or After Receiving Political Contributions From Nominees. “At least three times in his Senate career, Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry has recommended individuals for positions at federal home loan banks just before or after receiving political contributions from the nominees, records show… All three of the people Kerry recommended got the positions they sought on various boards of Federal Home Loan Banks in Boston and New York that provide money for home mortgages.” (John Solomon, “Three Times, Kerry Nominations And Donations Coincided,” The Associated Press, 2/5/04) CASH AND KERRY AND THE “BIG DIG” In 1999, Clinton Transportation Department Uncovered An Insurance Loophole That Had Netted $129.8 Million From Boston’s Infamous “Big Dig” Construction Project. “n 1999, the Transportation Department uncovered a financing scheme in which the project had overpaid $129.8 million to AIG for worker compensation and liability insurance that wasn’t needed, then had allowed the insurer to keep the money in a trust and invest it in the market. The government alleged AIG kept about half of the profits it made from the investments, providing the other half to the project.” In 2000, Kerry Blocked Provision That Would Have Stripped $150 Million From “Big Dig” And Ended Insurance Funding Loophole. “A Senate colleague was trying to close a loophole that allowed a major insurer to divert millions of federal dollars from the nation’s most expensive construction project. John Kerry stepped in and blocked the legislation. … Kerry’s office confirmed Wednesday that as member of the Senate Commerce Committee he persuaded committee chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., to drop a provision that would have stripped $150 million from the project and ended the insurance funding loophole.” Since Then, Insurance Company Has Donated $30,000 In Corporate Soft Money To Kerry’s 527 Committee, Paid For Kerry Trip To VT, And Company Executives Donated An Additional $18,000 To His Senate And Presidential Campaigns. “Over the next two years, the insurer, American International Group, paid Kerry’s way on a trip to Vermont and donated at least $30,000 to a tax-exempt group Kerry used to set up his presidential campaign. Company executives donated $18,000 to his Senate and presidential campaigns.” (John Solomon, “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash,” The Associated Press, 2/4/04) CASH AND KERRY AND JOHNNY CHUNG In 1996, Kerry Arranged SEC Meeting For Johnny Chung, In Return Chung Held Kerry Fundraiser. “In July 1996 the Massachusetts senator was locked in a tough re-election fight, so he was more than happy to help when he heard that a generous potential contributor wanted to visit his Capitol Hill office. The donor was Johnny Chung, a glad-handing Taiwanese American entrepreneur. Chung brought along some friends, including a Hong Kong businesswoman named Liu Chaoying. Told that Liu was interested in getting one of her companies listed on the U.S. Stock Exchange, Kerry’s aides immediately faxed over a letter to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The next day, Liu and Chung were ushered into a private briefing with a senior SEC official. Within weeks, Chung returned the favor: On Sept. 9 he threw Kerry a fund-raiser at a Beverly Hills hotel, raking in $10,000 for the senator's re-election campaign.” Kerry’s Encounter With Chung “A Political Embarrassment.” “Kerry’s encounter with Chung and Liu would turn into a political embarrassment. Federal investigators later discovered that Liu was in fact a lieutenant colonel in China’s People’s Liberation Army and vice president of a Chinese-government-owned aerospace firm. And Chung, who visited the Clinton White House 49 times, went on to become a central figure in the foreign-money scandals of 1996. Chung eventually pleaded guilty to funneling $28,000 in illegal contributions to the campaigns of Bill Clinton and Kerry.” (Michael Isikoff, “Cash And Kerry,” Newsweek, 2/9/04) Newsweek: Kerry Apparently Misled The Boston Herald About Relationship With Chung In January 1998. “Still, the appearance that the senator had played a cynical cash-for-favors game forced him to play damage control. In January 1998 he told the Boston Herald that the timing of the SEC meeting and the subsequent fund-raiser was ‘totally coincidental’ and ‘entirely staff driven.’ He said the Beverly Hills event had been set up by a professional fund-raiser, and that he had never even met Chung until the night of the event. But congressional documents obtained by Newsweek seem to tell a different story. ‘Dear Johnny, It was a great pleasure to have met you last week,’ Kerry told Chung in a handwritten note dated July 31, 1996. ‘Barbara [a Kerry fund-raiser] told me of your willingness to help me with my campaign... It means a lot to have someone like you on my team as I face the toughest race of my career.’ That same day the Kerry fund-raiser faxed a memo to Chung that read, in part: ‘The following are two ways in which you can be helpful to John.’ No. 1 was ‘Host an event in L.A. on Saturday, Sept. 9th.’ (A Kerry spokesman acknowledged that the senator may have met with Chung prior to the fund-raiser, but not in his Senate office.).” (Michael Isikoff, “Cash And Kerry,” Newsweek, 2/9/04) CASH AND KERRY RAISED MORE MONEY FROM LOBBYISTS THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR IN PAST 15 YEARS! Kerry Has Raised More Money From Paid Lobbyists Than Any Other Senator Over Past 15 Years. “Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), who has made a fight against corporate special interests a centerpiece of his front-running campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, has raised more money from paid lobbyists than any other senator over the past 15 years, federal records show. Kerry, a 19-year veteran of the Senate who fought and won four expensive political campaigns, has received nearly $640,000 from lobbyists, many representing telecommunications and financial companies with business before his committee …” (Jim VandeHei, “Kerry Leads In Lobby Money,” The Washington Post, 1/31/04) MEANWHILE, CASH AND KERRY SAYS HE DOESN’T ACCEPT SPECIAL INTEREST CASH, BUT THAT’S JUST NOT TRUE Kerry Continues To Mislead About PAC Money In His Response To Special Interest Allegations. “John Kerry has not taken a dime of PAC money during his four Senate elections or during his presidential race.” (“Kerry Reaction To AP Story On Donors He Nominated To Federal Boards,” The Associated Press, 2/5/04) Eight Months After Kerry Voted To Ban National Party Soft Money, He Formed Soft Money Committee “Citizen Soldier Fund,” Which Accepted Large Corporate Soft Money Contributions . (S. 27, CQ Vote #64: Passed 59-41: R 12-38; D 47-3, 4/2/01, Kerry Voted Yea; Year End 2001 Report For Citizen Soldier Fund - Non-Federal Account, IRS Website, www.irs.gov, Accessed 1/29/04) Kerry’s Soft Money Committee Collected “More Than $470,000 Directly From Companies And Unions In 2002.” (John Solomon, “Kerry, Edwards Boasts About Special Interest Money Don’t Tell Whole Story,” The Associated Press, 2/2/04) From website Objectivefacts.com (by the way this is an excellent website for finding out how a person voted on any certain bill) This congressional session ( 1 year into a 2 year congress) ************************************************* ************ John F. Carry Didn't vote 295, Yes vote 115, no vote 48 ************************************************* ************ John Edwards Didn't vote 182 Yes vote 143, No vote 67 Joe R. Biden Didn't vote 34 Yes vote 286, No vote 138 (My Guy Gordon Smith Oregon) Gordon Smith Didn't vote 33, Yes vote 277, No vote 148 (Not my Guy Ron Wyden Oregon) Ron Wyden Didn't vote 5, Yes vote 322, Mo vote 131 (And just for the hell of it) Hillary Clinton Didn't vote 4, Yest vote 308, No vote 146 (And you talk about Bush Being AWOL) Second Kerry claims a lot of votes when the bill was passed by a voice vote, You know yea's and nea's. Funny thing is that he wasn't in attendece on most of those days. When roll call votes came about Kerry was still absent most of the time. Also I have found out that Kerry's wife own factories in the Phillipeans, Mylasia, Indonesia, China, Singapore, and Viet Nam that are amoung the biggest violators of human rights, labor laws, and pollution standards. John Kerry's wife employs over 15,000 children under the age of 12 in her factories working 12 hours a day or more. Well I think that I have dug up enough stuff to make my charges verifiable. The Independent "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:06:18 GMT, Gunner
wrote: [i] On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 03:45:30 -0800, Jim Dauen wrote: Excitable Boy wrote: Jim Dauen wrote in message ... And then there is there are now the testimonies of the people aboard the River boat that were there during the action in which Kerry got his silver star. Karl Rove was there, too ? Wow, what a coincidence. I have been researching Kerry's votes in the Senate since his first win in 1982. Well there are two things that stand out. First is Kerry missed 56% of all the votes. You talk about G.W. Bush being AWOL it appears by his voting record that Kerry has been AWOL from the Senate for 12 of his 24 years. During the debate on the 87 billion aid package to Iraq after the war, John F. Kerry made many speeches in opposition to the aid package. When the vote was finally taken what was his vote, (Teddy Kennedy voted for the aid) as usual Kerry was absent. (Boston Globe article Susan Milligan Staff reporter) John F. Kerry killed in committee the senate bill that would have enacted HR2833 (Human Rights for Viet Nam) which passed the House of Representatives by a margin of 418 to 0. Could it be that his wife's commercial interests and his own through the firm of Colliers International LTD. (Which has the sole real estate, Banking and trading rights between the United States and with Viet Nam) may have determined his actions. (Letter from Viet Si to John Kerry ) Following from a article in he New York times (01/24/04) For example, at the end of the cold war, Mr. Kerry advocated scaling back the Central Intelligence Agency, but after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, he complained about a lack of intelligence capability. In the 1980's, he opposed the death penalty for terrorists who killed Americans abroad, but he now supports the death penalty for terrorist acts. In the 1990's, he joined with Republican colleagues to sponsor proposals to end tenure for public school teachers and allow direct grants to religion-based charities, measures that many Democratic groups opposed. In 1997, he voted to require elderly people with higher incomes to pay a larger share of Medicare premiums. (By Judy Mathewson, Ottaway News Service) FAST TRACK: Kennedy and Kerry split on President Clinton's request for authority to negotiate international trade agreements that Congress must then accept or reject on an all-or-nothing basis. Kerry supported granting the president's request while Kennedy opposed it. More than two-thirds of the Senate agreed with Kerry, however, ending a filibuster against the so-called "fast-track" bill. From a Gay Activist web site 0} NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT OF 2001 Date: 6-14-01 Bill Number: HR 1 Votes: For=91 Against=8 Bill introduced by Rep. John A. Boehner (R) [8] Ohio Vote for a bill that has two anti-gay amendments attached to it. The first amendment will block federal funds to public and private high schools that refuse to allow military recruiters on campus. The second amendment will block federal funds to public school systems that deny the Boy Scouts of America equal access to facilities. Kerry voted against this bill (From Radio Free West Hartford (Very leftist)) Rating Political Candidates John F. Kerry Likeability - 2 More fascinating to look at than actually likeable, John Kerry has that Frankenstien's monster meets Dan Rather quality which is always fun in a national political candidate. Governmental Experience - 3 Senator Kerry has been around for a good long time, yet his propensity for missing controversial Senate votes leaves me to wonder if he is capable of taking a strong stand on what he would like to order for dinner. Intelligence - 3 In spite of his oft' commented upon "frenchness", John isn't stupid. Of course, that doesn't mean he's any kind of genius either. After all, how bright is it to believe that if you just start calling yourself John F. Kerry instead of, simply, John Kerry, you'll actually have a better shot at the presidency? Integrity - 2 Mr. Kerry... uh, I mean F. Kerry has spent more time straddling the fence than Linda Lovelace did straddling her cinematic co-stars. Originality - 4 Perhaps John's strongest suit is his unusual looks, and if he ever should become president, you can count on him scaring the bejezus out of foreign dignitaries and their spouses on a regular basis. (From GOP Web site biased but independently verfied by cong. Rec) Kerry Called For "Fiscal Responsibility," Just Like When He Voted For The 1993 Tax Hike, The Largest In History. In His Senate Career, Kerry Has Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times. Kerry Voted At Least Five Times To Raid The Social Security Trust Fund. (as if this is a big deal there ain't no money in there anyway) QUESTIONS RAISED OVER CASH AND KERRY NOMINATIONS! In 1984, When Kerry First Ran For U.S. Senate He Promised To Be “Persistent Watchdog Over Presidential Appointments.” “When he first ran for the Senate, Kerry promised voters he would carefully choose nominees on merit. ‘I will act as a persistent watchdog over presidential appointments to ensure that only people of integrity, ability and commitment hold positions of power in our national government,’ Kerry wrote in a June 1984 fund-raising appeal.” However, On At Least Three Occasions Kerry Has Recommended Individuals For Positions At Federal Home Loan Banks Immediately Before Or After Receiving Political Contributions From Nominees. “At least three times in his Senate career, Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry has recommended individuals for positions at federal home loan banks just before or after receiving political contributions from the nominees, records show… All three of the people Kerry recommended got the positions they sought on various boards of Federal Home Loan Banks in Boston and New York that provide money for home mortgages.” (John Solomon, “Three Times, Kerry Nominations And Donations Coincided,” The Associated Press, 2/5/04) CASH AND KERRY AND THE “BIG DIG” In 1999, Clinton Transportation Department Uncovered An Insurance Loophole That Had Netted $129.8 Million From Boston’s Infamous “Big Dig” Construction Project. “n 1999, the Transportation Department uncovered a financing scheme in which the project had overpaid $129.8 million to AIG for worker compensation and liability insurance that wasn’t needed, then had allowed the insurer to keep the money in a trust and invest it in the market. The government alleged AIG kept about half of the profits it made from the investments, providing the other half to the project.” In 2000, Kerry Blocked Provision That Would Have Stripped $150 Million From “Big Dig” And Ended Insurance Funding Loophole. “A Senate colleague was trying to close a loophole that allowed a major insurer to divert millions of federal dollars from the nation’s most expensive construction project. John Kerry stepped in and blocked the legislation. … Kerry’s office confirmed Wednesday that as member of the Senate Commerce Committee he persuaded committee chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., to drop a provision that would have stripped $150 million from the project and ended the insurance funding loophole.” Since Then, Insurance Company Has Donated $30,000 In Corporate Soft Money To Kerry’s 527 Committee, Paid For Kerry Trip To VT, And Company Executives Donated An Additional $18,000 To His Senate And Presidential Campaigns. “Over the next two years, the insurer, American International Group, paid Kerry’s way on a trip to Vermont and donated at least $30,000 to a tax-exempt group Kerry used to set up his presidential campaign. Company executives donated $18,000 to his Senate and presidential campaigns.” (John Solomon, “Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash,” The Associated Press, 2/4/04) CASH AND KERRY AND JOHNNY CHUNG In 1996, Kerry Arranged SEC Meeting For Johnny Chung, In Return Chung Held Kerry Fundraiser. “In July 1996 the Massachusetts senator was locked in a tough re-election fight, so he was more than happy to help when he heard that a generous potential contributor wanted to visit his Capitol Hill office. The donor was Johnny Chung, a glad-handing Taiwanese American entrepreneur. Chung brought along some friends, including a Hong Kong businesswoman named Liu Chaoying. Told that Liu was interested in getting one of her companies listed on the U.S. Stock Exchange, Kerry’s aides immediately faxed over a letter to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The next day, Liu and Chung were ushered into a private briefing with a senior SEC official. Within weeks, Chung returned the favor: On Sept. 9 he threw Kerry a fund-raiser at a Beverly Hills hotel, raking in $10,000 for the senator's re-election campaign.” Kerry’s Encounter With Chung “A Political Embarrassment.” “Kerry’s encounter with Chung and Liu would turn into a political embarrassment. Federal investigators later discovered that Liu was in fact a lieutenant colonel in China’s People’s Liberation Army and vice president of a Chinese-government-owned aerospace firm. And Chung, who visited the Clinton White House 49 times, went on to become a central figure in the foreign-money scandals of 1996. Chung eventually pleaded guilty to funneling $28,000 in illegal contributions to the campaigns of Bill Clinton and Kerry.” (Michael Isikoff, “Cash And Kerry,” Newsweek, 2/9/04) Newsweek: Kerry Apparently Misled The Boston Herald About Relationship With Chung In January 1998. “Still, the appearance that the senator had played a cynical cash-for-favors game forced him to play damage control. In January 1998 he told the Boston Herald that the timing of the SEC meeting and the subsequent fund-raiser was ‘totally coincidental’ and ‘entirely staff driven.’ He said the Beverly Hills event had been set up by a professional fund-raiser, and that he had never even met Chung until the night of the event. But congressional documents obtained by Newsweek seem to tell a different story. ‘Dear Johnny, It was a great pleasure to have met you last week,’ Kerry told Chung in a handwritten note dated July 31, 1996. ‘Barbara [a Kerry fund-raiser] told me of your willingness to help me with my campaign... It means a lot to have someone like you on my team as I face the toughest race of my career.’ That same day the Kerry fund-raiser faxed a memo to Chung that read, in part: ‘The following are two ways in which you can be helpful to John.’ No. 1 was ‘Host an event in L.A. on Saturday, Sept. 9th.’ (A Kerry spokesman acknowledged that the senator may have met with Chung prior to the fund-raiser, but not in his Senate office.).” (Michael Isikoff, “Cash And Kerry,” Newsweek, 2/9/04) CASH AND KERRY RAISED MORE MONEY FROM LOBBYISTS THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR IN PAST 15 YEARS! Kerry Has Raised More Money From Paid Lobbyists Than Any Other Senator Over Past 15 Years. “Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), who has made a fight against corporate special interests a centerpiece of his front-running campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, has raised more money from paid lobbyists than any other senator over the past 15 years, federal records show. Kerry, a 19-year veteran of the Senate who fought and won four expensive political campaigns, has received nearly $640,000 from lobbyists, many representing telecommunications and financial companies with business before his committee …” (Jim VandeHei, “Kerry Leads In Lobby Money,” The Washington Post, 1/31/04) MEANWHILE, CASH AND KERRY SAYS HE DOESN’T ACCEPT SPECIAL INTEREST CASH, BUT THAT’S JUST NOT TRUE Kerry Continues To Mislead About PAC Money In His Response To Special Interest Allegations. “John Kerry has not taken a dime of PAC money during his four Senate elections or during his presidential race.” (“Kerry Reaction To AP Story On Donors He Nominated To Federal Boards,” The Associated Press, 2/5/04) Eight Months After Kerry Voted To Ban National Party Soft Money, He Formed Soft Money Committee “Citizen Soldier Fund,” Which Accepted Large Corporate Soft Money Contributions . (S. 27, CQ Vote #64: Passed 59-41: R 12-38; D 47-3, 4/2/01, Kerry Voted Yea; Year End 2001 Report For Citizen Soldier Fund - Non-Federal Account, IRS Website, www.irs.gov, Accessed 1/29/04) Kerry’s Soft Money Committee Collected “More Than $470,000 Directly From Companies And Unions In 2002.” (John Solomon, “Kerry, Edwards Boasts About Special Interest Money Don’t Tell Whole Story,” The Associated Press, 2/2/04) From website Objectivefacts.com (by the way this is an excellent website for finding out how a person voted on any certain bill) This congressional session ( 1 year into a 2 year congress) ************************************************ ************* John F. Carry Didn't vote 295, Yes vote 115, no vote 48 ************************************************ ************* John Edwards Didn't vote 182 Yes vote 143, No vote 67 Joe R. Biden Didn't vote 34 Yes vote 286, No vote 138 (My Guy Gordon Smith Oregon) Gordon Smith Didn't vote 33, Yes vote 277, No vote 148 (Not my Guy Ron Wyden Oregon) Ron Wyden Didn't vote 5, Yes vote 322, Mo vote 131 (And just for the hell of it) Hillary Clinton Didn't vote 4, Yest vote 308, No vote 146 (And you talk about Bush Being AWOL) Second Kerry claims a lot of votes when the bill was passed by a voice vote, You know yea's and nea's. Funny thing is that he wasn't in attendece on most of those days. When roll call votes came about Kerry was still absent most of the time. Also I have found out that Kerry's wife own factories in the Phillipeans, Mylasia, Indonesia, China, Singapore, and Viet Nam that are amoung the biggest violators of human rights, labor laws, and pollution standards. John Kerry's wife employs over 15,000 children under the age of 12 in her factories working 12 hours a day or more. Well I think that I have dug up enough stuff to make my charges verifiable. The Independent "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas Roger Hall Kerry's Deceit Senator Kerry has recently claimed he had all POW/MIA documentation found by the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs (1993) declassified. That is not true. He had it all sent to the National Archives where the National Archives refused to have the documentation declassified. As a representative of the National Alliance of POW/MIA Families, I had all the Department of Defense (DOD) and State Department documents declassified after a five (5) years of delays and the refusal of help from Senator Kerry's office. I had repeatedly been turned away by Senator Kerry Staff and told the records were no longer of concern to Senator Kerry. I was told the committee had ended and I should contact the Department of Defense where I was stalled by their classification office. In May 1998 I filed a Freedom of Information act law suit that resulted in: 1) The National Archives put over 30 people on the declassification of the above mentioned DOD and State Department documents, and 2) that 40,000 pages CIA documents never declassified -- were declassified. Kerry's Conflict of Interest Senator John Kerry has stated that Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs found that there were no live POW/MIAs left from the Vietnam War. He ignored some and hid other evidence. There are approximately 85 American POWs, known captured by the North Vietnamese, that they still fail to report on. Senator Kerry ignores such facts to prove none are alive. The were 60 POWs held by the communists in Laos in 1973. Henry Kissinger never negotiated for them in 1973, Senator Kerry refused to seek out their fate and present status so he could maintain his position that none survive today. He failed to check very far on Korea, reports on live POW/MIAs are being withheld to this date. The information on the survival of Navy "Gulf War" pilot Capt. Michael Speicher, after he was shot down the first day of the war, was suppressed until the public forced out the truth. In 2003 the Navy changed Capt. Speicher's status to Captured after being listed as Killed in Action for 10 years. The 1993 POW/MIA Committee was charged with finding the truth on the fate of POW/MIAs -- under Senator Kerry's command and pressure the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIAs fell short. The truth on Capt. Speicher was kept hidden undermining the integrity of the senate investigative responsibilities, and the hope of a nation placed in the congress. Below are quotes from the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIAs "Report" showing how he reached such a conclusion -- by ignoring the evidence and not negotiating for survivors. There have been numerous live sighting reports that were ignored so John Kerry could make an unsubstantiated statement. His quick fix committee closed down the live POW/MIA issue so that he could have his investments in Vietnam prosper. The Collier Corporation is an international Real Estate leasing organization, the largest of its kind in the world. The Collier Corporation had business leases in Vietnam before the Committee ended. Even before we normalized with Vietnam. Kerry's supposedly "blind" trust fund was heavily devoted to building a new $905 million dollar sea port in at Vung Tau, Vietnam while he was quickly ending the POW/MIA Select Committee. The Committee ended a year short of its potential life authorized by the Senate when it was formed under Senator Kerry's pressure. Who ran his trust? His cousin, Forbes. Who ran the Collier Corporation? His cousin Collier. The Kerry Committee opened the way for normalization with Vietnam and Hugh profits for his trust fund and the investments of his relatives. Kerry, and the Committee he led, brushed over the lives and captivity of POW/MIAs in a rush to close the books. His henchmen and relatives were reaping lucrative profits before we ever normalized relations with Vietnam. His duplicity has been a conflict of interest when it comes to national priorities over personnel profits. Statement of Senators from the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs "1993 REPORT" P. 9 While the Committee has some evidence suggesting the possibility a POW may have survived to the present . . . there is, at this time, no compelling evidence that proves that any American remains alive in captivity in Southeast Asia. P. 124 There is evidence that a small number of specific individuals did survive their incidents, and that some number of other individuals, not clearly identified, also survived. P. 451 Stmt of John Kerry: Although the Committee, unlike previous investigations, uncovered evidence that a small number of American's may have survived in captivity after Operation Homecoming, there is, in my view, no reason to believe that any American's remain alive today. Yes, the possibility exists that a prisoner or prisoners could be held deep within a jungle or behind a locked door under conditions of greatest security. But there is no evidence of that, and it is hard to conceive of a reason for it. (Collier/Forbes.) P. 456 Statement of Sen. Bob Smith: Based on our review of all available intelligence information, the Committee unanimously agreed that there is evidence that indicates the possibility of survival (of American POWs) after Operation Homecoming. As of today, we also agree that there is evidence that some POWs may have survived to the present .. . . and some information still remains to be investigated. However, at this time, there is no compelling evidence that proves American's are still alive. P. 468 Statement of Sen. John McCain: There is some -evidence though no proof to suggest only the possibility that a few Americans may have been kept behind after the end of America's military involvement in Vietnam ... there are some remaining differences over the quality of evidence that supports the possibility of survival. |
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