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Joe Barta writes:
Somewhere along the line, someone else thought it would also be a
groovy idea to gather up all those past USENET discussions, along with
all the new ones that are being generated every day, and put them in a
big fat searchable database. And then make that database accessible
with a web browser. Several years ago there was a website called
DejaNews that did just that. I don't know how they did it or if they
were the first, but they did it and it was cool.


Actually DejaNews didn't attempt to gather Usenet postings from before
they existed; they just retained everything posted during their existence.
At first they made the whole lot available, then they cut back the free
service to just the most recent 6-12 months.

I still miss their "one line per article" search result format.

As with many things on the web, after a few years it fizzled. They
probably ran out of money and they went offline.

Fast forward to a couple years ago, and Google announces that they've
bought the USENET archive that belonged to DejaNews and soon they will
be using their wonderous search technology on all those old
discussions and make them accessible from groups.google.com.


And then after *that*, they incorporated old articles from several
*other* archives -- ones that had never been publicly available --
thus providing content (although with some gaps in coverage) from as
far back as 1981, just 2 years after the start of Usenet.
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Joe Barta wrote:

big snip of "the way things are in wonderfull world of internet"

And that's all I have to say about that.

Joe Barta


Thank you Joe. NOW all you have to do is convince the un-washed
millions in google land . :-)
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Dave Balderstone wrote:

In article , Joe Barta
wrote:


I'm guessing you posted the link for a reason. I'm curious to hear
your thoughts on the article.



Maybe millions of people will soon think that Google and the Internet
are one and the same...

Some here already think they're a browser...

OH! and didn't "ole whatisname" invent the Internet ????
:-)
...lew...
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Item 570 is a form for hammering copper sheet, reposse.



I haven't been able to confirm any of the guesses on this one so far, but
I'll add yours to the list.

Rob


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Gary wrote:

Wrong, google Groups -is- a browser. I am using it right now to post
this message. But I much prefer Agent as it has spell check and kill
files capability.


Huh? Internet Explorer is a browser. Netscape is a browser. Konqueror is
a browser. Google is a _server_, not a _browser_.

Agent is also not a browser, it is a "newsreader", which is slightly
different from the portal access called "Google Groups" provided via the
Google server.

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Rich Grise wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:35:16 +0000, R.H. wrote:

Another set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


575: I'm going with HV gas discharge tube for questionable medical
purposes - I saw several very much like this at "The Museum of
Questionable Medical Devices" in Minneapolis, before it closed.
I've tried searching their website, but don't see it. The device
is filled with rarefied gas, and the HV supply goes to that metal
cap, and it lights up like a neon lamp, tingles a little where the
fingers are dragged over the skin, and makes ozone. ;-)


Google "violet wand"--there is one site that has an animation of that
particular type of tube in operation.

And everybody got 577 the toaster and 578 the Rockwell tester. )-;

The 580 tongs I'm guessing are for hot sheet metal.

Cheers!
Rich


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"R.H." writes:

Another set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


#576 is obviously a chastity belt. You can just barely see the barbs in the
second photo.


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According to J. Clarke :
Gary wrote:

Wrong, google Groups -is- a browser. I am using it right now to post
this message. But I much prefer Agent as it has spell check and kill
files capability.


Huh? Internet Explorer is a browser. Netscape is a browser. Konqueror is
a browser. Google is a _server_, not a _browser_.


More specifically, Google is a *web* server (HTTP protocol), not
even a "news" (usenet) server (NNTP protocol).

Many web browers have the capability to talk the NNTP protocol,
and POP protocol (one of the e-mail protocols), but Google does *not*
serve newsgroups in that way. It serves them up as web pages, through
what *I* find to be a terrible user interface.

Agent is also not a browser, it is a "newsreader", which is slightly
different from the portal access called "Google Groups" provided via the
Google server.


And -- it is much *better* at being a newsreader than the web
browers which include NNTP protocol capabilities. I don't use it,
simply because I don't allow a Windows box which I may own to talk to
the net. So -- I use common free source newsreaders written for unix
systems (which is where usenet news got its start, anyway, so the unix
newsreaders have had plenty of time to get to be very good at what they
do.

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Quote:
Agent is also not a browser, it is a "newsreader", which is slightly
different from the portal access called "Google Groups" provided via
the
Google server.


OK, Google iGroups is a news reader not a browser. I can read and post
to news groups with it. I don't like it much compared to Agent but it
was all I had for a while. It does have one feature I wish Agent had
in that it makes a list of groups you have posted to so you can check
on responses or rude replies.
Any more nit picking?



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Quote:
Agent is also not a browser, it is a "newsreader", which is slightly
different from the portal access called "Google Groups" provided via
the
Google server.


OK, Google iGroups is a news reader not a browser. I can read and post
to news groups with it. I don't like it much compared to Agent but it
was all I had for a while. It does have one feature I wish Agent had
in that it makes a list of groups you have posted to so you can check
on responses or rude replies.
Any more nit picking?

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OK, Googl Groups is a news reader not a browser. I can read and post
to news groups with it. I don't like it much compared to Agent but it
was all I had for a while. It does have one feature I wish Agent had
in that it makes a list of groups you have posted to so you can check
on responses or rude replies.
Any more nit picking?






On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:40:48 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Gary wrote:

Wrong, google Groups -is- a browser. I am using it right now to post
this message. But I much prefer Agent as it has spell check and kill
files capability.


Huh? Internet Explorer is a browser. Netscape is a browser. Konqueror is
a browser. Google is a _server_, not a _browser_.

Agent is also not a browser, it is a "newsreader", which is slightly
different from the portal access called "Google Groups" provided via the
Google server.

Gary Pewitt N9ZSV
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:48:53 -0600, Dave Balderstone wrote:

In article , Rich Grise
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I saw several very much like this at "The Museum of Questionable Medical
Devices" in Minneapolis, before it closed.


Oh, man... Is there any way to buy them out?

Seriously. Contact info? Anyone from the Twin Cities that can help?


http://www.mtn.org/quack/welcome.htm

Cheers!
Rich

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