The Discovery Channel's "Rides" show had Chip Foose's "Impression" on
this week. Amazing, awesome, incredible, ... Here's a good write-up on
the car:
http://www.streetrodderweb.com/features/0509sr_reister/
Be sure to click on the thumbnails.

Hand built the whole way. 7 years to build. And Chip is such a nice
guy. How refreshing after his Ass Holiness Boyd Coddington, not to
forget the Big & Bigger Assholes, the Teutuls. Charley the painter, the
escapee from the Coddington Car Factory, was shown.

Bob

That is some amazing work. That has to be one of the cleanest engine
compartments that I have ever seen.
I think I could work on something like that for the next 100 years and
not get anything even remotely that fine.
Mike

mj wrote:
That is some amazing work. That has to be one of the cleanest engine
compartments that I have ever seen.
I think I could work on something like that for the next 100 years and
not get anything even remotely that fine.
Mike


Yeah, it looks a little TOO fine.

The images look rendered to me. It is too clean and too perfect. And the
anti-aliasing perturbations indicate to me that the images were either generated
in a package such as 3d studio max, or captured by a less-than-optimal camera.

I still think they look fake, sorry.

"Mark Jones" wrote in message
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mj wrote:
That is some amazing work. That has to be one of the cleanest engine
compartments that I have ever seen.
I think I could work on something like that for the next 100 years and
not get anything even remotely that fine.
Mike


Yeah, it looks a little TOO fine.

The images look rendered to me. It is too clean and too perfect. And the
anti-aliasing perturbations indicate to me that the images were either
generated
in a package such as 3d studio max, or captured by a less-than-optimal
camera.

I still think they look fake, sorry.

They do look like they've been worked over in Photoshop a bit, but they also
could be the product of one of the big "soft box" studios that the car
companies use. Anybody can rent time in them.

When I had my ad agency 25 years ago we had a smallish version of one of
those, set up in an old warehouse. It was something we inherited from the
photo studio that had been there before us. Twenty feet by twenty-five feet,
with a sixteen-foot ceiling, it must have had two - or three-hundred yards
of spun-glass fabric over the lights.

We used it to shoot display photos for Casio, which were turned into
8-foot-high Translite (now Duratrans) transparencies for trade shows. We'd
shoot one of their six- or eight-foot-wide displays of big office
calculators, and the measured light intensity was less than 1/4 stop from
edge to edge. Not a shadow anywhere, and perfectly smooth highlights off of
the reflective parts of the plastic.

It can be done. Today, though, a little bit of digital "enhancement" can do
the same thing for a lot less money.

--
Ed Huntress

LOL. I had somewhat that same thought when I first looked at them. I
thought there is no way anyone could build something that perfect. It
had to have been a retouched photo. I have no doubt the photo was
retouched somewhat, but I bet the craftsmanship on this thing is still
outstanding.
Mike

mj wrote:
LOL. I had somewhat that same thought when I first looked at them. I
thought there is no way anyone could build something that perfect. It
had to have been a retouched photo. I have no doubt the photo was
retouched somewhat, but I bet the craftsmanship on this thing is still
outstanding.
Mike


I'm quite experienced with computer graphics and rendered images. While it
might be feasible to design something this perfect, I just don't see it
happening. And you have to consider the functionality of the finished product -
the engine looks too "imagined" rather than functional. It is easy to make an
engine look like that with smoothed polygons. But where is the distributor? The
carburettor? The air cleaner? Why is the firewall "perfect?" No wires? No hoses?
No steering rack? Does the engine run on zero-point vacuum energy?

People in the computer graphics business have an affinity towards modelling
cars - getting the curves just right, making the clear/basecoat look real,
designing all those little parts. Here's a comparison. These are just a few of
thousands of samples available on the net:
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevie....cfm/ID/249122 (the black ones look
especially nice.) Or if you need a "car pack":
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevie....cfm/ID/273218 Or if you want to
learn how to model your own car, any car:
http://www.evermotion.org/tutorials/..._modeling_max/

So I guess the thousands of people who have seen this thing in person at
several different car shows are dreaming? The many dozens of journalists who
have written stories on this car are all liars? The judges at the Detroit
Autorama that awarded it the Best of Show are nothing but hacks?

Come on, guys. At least Google the darned thing and see the hundreds of
hits and many dozens of photos of this car before trying to convince us that
it exists only in a graphic artist's computer...


"Mark Jones" wrote in message
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I'm quite experienced with computer graphics and rendered images. While it
might be feasible to design something this perfect, I just don't see it
happening. And you have to consider the functionality of the finished
product -
the engine looks too "imagined" rather than functional. It is easy to make
an
engine look like that with smoothed polygons. But where is the
distributor? The
carburettor? The air cleaner? Why is the firewall "perfect?" No wires? No
hoses?
No steering rack? Does the engine run on zero-point vacuum energy?

People in the computer graphics business have an affinity towards
modelling
cars - getting the curves just right, making the clear/basecoat look real,
designing all those little parts. Here's a comparison. These are just a
few of
thousands of samples available on the net:
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevie....cfm/ID/249122 (the black ones
look
especially nice.) Or if you need a "car pack":
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPrevie....cfm/ID/273218 Or if you want
to
learn how to model your own car, any car:
http://www.evermotion.org/tutorials/..._modeling_max/

"Mark Jones" wrote in message
news

I'm quite experienced with computer graphics and rendered images. While it
might be feasible to design something this perfect, I just don't see it
happening. And you have to consider the functionality of the finished
product -
the engine looks too "imagined" rather than functional. It is easy to make
an
engine look like that with smoothed polygons. But where is the
distributor? The
carburettor? The air cleaner? Why is the firewall "perfect?" No wires? No
hoses?
No steering rack? Does the engine run on zero-point vacuum energy?

Well, the picture may be touched up, and I haven't seen the car in person,
but the things you pointed out are no indication that the car isn't "real".
Crank-fire ignitions have made distributors unnecessary for years. There is
no carburator because the car in injected. The picture doesn't show enough
to see where the air intake is, but the intake manifold is visible so I have
faith that the air gets in somewhere. Smoothed and blemish-free firewalls
have been a feature of rods for years. I don't like the look, but many many
car builders do it. Assuming that sparkplug wires that are clearly showing
on the top of the engine aren't functional, wires and hoses are easily
hidden.

I'm betting that whatever touch ups have been done to these photos are to
get rid of the odd dust speck, not materially change any part of the car.
You need to spend some time around custom cars before claiming that
something that perfect can't happen. While I don't always like the style of
many of the custom cars I've seen, there's no denying the skill of the folks
that build many of them.

Peter

Odd......

Up here in Canada Rides is on TLC

as for the three shows (Monster Garage, Chopper and Hotrod)

Quit showing the arguments and show the building. Yes people argue fot
you dont need to make the place look like highschool. And if it is a
highschool, Cancel the show.



Bob Engelhardt wrote:
The Discovery Channel's "Rides" show had Chip Foose's "Impression" on
this week. Amazing, awesome, incredible, ... Here's a good write-up on
the car:
http://www.streetrodderweb.com/features/0509sr_reister/
Be sure to click on the thumbnails.

Hand built the whole way. 7 years to build. And Chip is such a nice
guy. How refreshing after his Ass Holiness Boyd Coddington, not to
forget the Big & Bigger Assholes, the Teutuls. Charley the painter, the
escapee from the Coddington Car Factory, was shown.

Bob

Brent Philion wrote:

Odd......

Up here in Canada Rides is on TLC
....

Oops - you're right. TLC, not Discovery Channel. It's
www.discovery.com, but TLC. Sorry for the confusion. Bob