So last weekend I tried to repair the nylon/leather laminate belt on my
SB Heavy 10" using some clipper lacing I had laying around. This time,
rather than having the lacing simply pull out of the belt, the belt
itself ripped along the line where the clipper staples were pressed in.

So I ordered a new belt and Alligator lacing (http://www.flexco.com)
from McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com). The belt is their high-
end leather/nylon/leather laminate material, 6' long by 1" wide. This
stuff is quite a bit thicker and stiffer than the old belt, though it
is claimed to work on pulleys of 3.3" or larger.

The length of material is longer than I need so I'll have to cut it,
and applying the lacing will "damage" the material anyway, so if the
belt is too thick/stiff for use on my lathe (1 1/2 hp motor) I'll have
to eat the $37 I paid for it and buy another thinner/more flexible
plain leather belt.

Has anyone else used this material on machines with comparably sized
pulleys as found on a Heavy 10? Looks good and strong, though.

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In article , Artemia Salina
says...

The length of material is longer than I need so I'll have to cut it,
and applying the lacing will "damage" the material anyway, so if the
belt is too thick/stiff for use on my lathe (1 1/2 hp motor) I'll have
to eat the $37 I paid for it and buy another thinner/more flexible
plain leather belt.

I replaced my 10L machine's belt with some double ply leather
from mcmaster carr, and I probably should have gone with the
single ply. I think the stuff I had was about 7/32 or so thick
and I actually had to remove the lube chart under the headstock
cover because it was rubbing on the chart.

Next time I will go with single ply!

Jim

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I can vouch for single ply leather for a heavy 10"....I've had my
replacement belt from McMaster running for over 2 years. BTW, I skived the
belt on my mill and used WeldWood contact cement as the adhesive.
"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , Artemia Salina
says...

The length of material is longer than I need so I'll have to cut it,
and applying the lacing will "damage" the material anyway, so if the
belt is too thick/stiff for use on my lathe (1 1/2 hp motor) I'll have
to eat the $37 I paid for it and buy another thinner/more flexible
plain leather belt.

I replaced my 10L machine's belt with some double ply leather
from mcmaster carr, and I probably should have gone with the
single ply. I think the stuff I had was about 7/32 or so thick
and I actually had to remove the lube chart under the headstock
cover because it was rubbing on the chart.

Next time I will go with single ply!

Jim

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You don't say what belt thickness you got, but some of your S/B cone pulleys
are smaller that 3.3". Try getting the all synthetic material. No advantage
to leather other than nostalgia. Also, S/B 10L's can take a little wider
belt. I use 1 3/16" . The 1" belting is for 9" machines.

Tony


"Artemia Salina" wrote in message
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So last weekend I tried to repair the nylon/leather laminate belt on my
SB Heavy 10" using some clipper lacing I had laying around. This time,
rather than having the lacing simply pull out of the belt, the belt
itself ripped along the line where the clipper staples were pressed in.

So I ordered a new belt and Alligator lacing (http://www.flexco.com)
from McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com). The belt is their high-
end leather/nylon/leather laminate material, 6' long by 1" wide. This
stuff is quite a bit thicker and stiffer than the old belt, though it
is claimed to work on pulleys of 3.3" or larger.

The length of material is longer than I need so I'll have to cut it,
and applying the lacing will "damage" the material anyway, so if the
belt is too thick/stiff for use on my lathe (1 1/2 hp motor) I'll have
to eat the $37 I paid for it and buy another thinner/more flexible
plain leather belt.

Has anyone else used this material on machines with comparably sized
pulleys as found on a Heavy 10? Looks good and strong, though.

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In article , Tony says...

You don't say what belt thickness you got, but some of your S/B cone pulleys
are smaller that 3.3". Try getting the all synthetic material. No advantage
to leather other than nostalgia. Also, S/B 10L's can take a little wider
belt. I use 1 3/16" . The 1" belting is for 9" machines.

Interestingly the texalon belt that SB supplied for their
9" machines was about 7/8 or so wide.

Jim

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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:13:56 +0000, Tony wrote:

You don't say what belt thickness you got, but some of your S/B cone pulleys
are smaller that 3.3".

The material is 0.16", just a hair over 5/32".

Try getting the all synthetic material. No advantage
to leather other than nostalgia.

I don't know of an online supplier. Got a source?

Also, S/B 10L's can take a little wider
belt. I use 1 3/16" . The 1" belting is for 9" machines.

I thought about that but the next size up for any of McMaster's
flat belts is 1 1/4" and I didn't want to push my luck. The
pulleys could probably handle 1 1/4" belts, but I hadn't seen
the Alligator lacing at that point and wasn't sure if it'd rub
on the adjacent pulley's shoulder. The pulley crowns centered
the belt that was on the lathe when I bought it but the hinge pin
protruded a bit more than the belt's 1" width. Not knowing what
the new lacing would be like I didn't want to chance going wider.

Now I see that the lacing, when installed, is somewhat less than
the width of the belt, and the belt ends are camfered at the
corners. Plenty of clearance, even for 1 1/4" width.




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..160 should work ok, why don't you give it a try.

You can get any belting you need at Empire State Belting & Hose 14-30
Astoria Blvd, Long Island City, NY 11102 718-274-7878

Tony

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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:13:56 +0000, Tony wrote:

You don't say what belt thickness you got, but some of your S/B cone
pulleys
are smaller that 3.3".

The material is 0.16", just a hair over 5/32".

Try getting the all synthetic material. No advantage
to leather other than nostalgia.

I don't know of an online supplier. Got a source?

Also, S/B 10L's can take a little wider
belt. I use 1 3/16" . The 1" belting is for 9" machines.

I thought about that but the next size up for any of McMaster's
flat belts is 1 1/4" and I didn't want to push my luck. The
pulleys could probably handle 1 1/4" belts, but I hadn't seen
the Alligator lacing at that point and wasn't sure if it'd rub
on the adjacent pulley's shoulder. The pulley crowns centered
the belt that was on the lathe when I bought it but the hinge pin
protruded a bit more than the belt's 1" width. Not knowing what
the new lacing would be like I didn't want to chance going wider.

Now I see that the lacing, when installed, is somewhat less than
the width of the belt, and the belt ends are camfered at the
corners. Plenty of clearance, even for 1 1/4" width.




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Well 1" is the widest that works on a 9" S/B. I usually put on the widest
that fits without rubbing.

Tony

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In article , Tony says...

You don't say what belt thickness you got, but some of your S/B cone
pulleys
are smaller that 3.3". Try getting the all synthetic material. No
advantage
to leather other than nostalgia. Also, S/B 10L's can take a little wider
belt. I use 1 3/16" . The 1" belting is for 9" machines.

Interestingly the texalon belt that SB supplied for their
9" machines was about 7/8 or so wide.

Jim

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