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Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


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R.H. wrote:
Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


563 Old fire extingisher

564 Saw set, for setting the teeth on saws

565 ??

566 ??

567 Ammo Carrier?

568 ??

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:04:52 -0500, Howard R Garner wrote:

R.H. wrote:
Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


563 Old fire extingisher


D'OH! Yes! Of course! That's where I've seen those things dangle! (I had
guessed "something decorative, like a chandelier") It was so many decades
ago, I definitely remember seeing them hanging in soft metal straps, but
forgot entirely where I saw one, until just now, you triggered my memory -
in my Grandma's attic!

Except, I'd be more likely to categorize it as an early version of a
"sprinkler"[1], not a whole extinguisher, unless it's full of halon or
something. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

[1]Or maybe a "splasher?" ;-) It's held by a band of low-melting alloy,
which when it melts, drops the globe on whatever's under it, the glass
is incredibly fragile, it breaks, and dumps the liquid all over
everything. I remember Dad cautioning me not to touch them in Grandma's
attic, because they were so fragile. ;-)


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Rich Grise wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 07:04:52 -0500, Howard R Garner wrote:

R.H. wrote:
Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is

new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the

unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able

to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


563 Old fire extingisher


D'OH! Yes! Of course! That's where I've seen those things dangle! (I had
guessed "something decorative, like a chandelier") It was so many decades
ago, I definitely remember seeing them hanging in soft metal straps, but
forgot entirely where I saw one, until just now, you triggered my memory -
in my Grandma's attic!

Except, I'd be more likely to categorize it as an early version of a
"sprinkler"[1], not a whole extinguisher, unless it's full of halon or
something. ;-)


Would you believe "Carbon tetra-chloride"?

It _does_ extinguish fires. But the gas it givesoff is rather dangerous.

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The Robert Bonomi entity posted thusly:

Would you believe "Carbon tetra-chloride"?

It _does_ extinguish fires. But the gas it givesoff is rather dangerous.


Minor trivia:
Folks who made hats used to use 'carbon-tet', and it affected their
brains. Hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter".



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Robert Bonomi:
Would you believe "Carbon tetra-chloride"?
It _does_ extinguish fires. But the gas it givesoff is rather dangerous.


Oleg Lego:
Folks who made hats used to use 'carbon-tet', and it affected their
brains. Hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter".


Nope. That was mercury, not carbon tet.
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:19:56 -0600, Oleg Lego
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The Robert Bonomi entity posted thusly:

Would you believe "Carbon tetra-chloride"?

It _does_ extinguish fires. But the gas it givesoff is rather dangerous.


Minor trivia:
Folks who made hats used to use 'carbon-tet', and it affected their
brains. Hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter".


Thought it was mercury salts that did that to the hatters. The mercury
salts were used for curing the pelts that went into the hats.



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Oleg Lego wrote:
The Robert Bonomi entity posted thusly:

Would you believe "Carbon tetra-chloride"?

It _does_ extinguish fires. But the gas it givesoff is rather dangerous.


Minor trivia:
Folks who made hats used to use 'carbon-tet', and it affected their
brains. Hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter".


Heard the same story, but with mercury.


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Oleg Lego wrote:
The Robert Bonomi entity posted thusly:

Would you believe "Carbon tetra-chloride"?

It _does_ extinguish fires. But the gas it givesoff is rather dangerous.


Minor trivia:
Folks who made hats used to use 'carbon-tet', and it affected their
brains. Hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter".


Actually it was the mercury that they used in hatmaking that affected
them.

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Oleg Lego wrote:
The Robert Bonomi entity posted thusly:

Would you believe "Carbon tetra-chloride"?

It _does_ extinguish fires. But the gas it givesoff is rather dangerous.


Minor trivia:
Folks who made hats used to use 'carbon-tet', and it affected their
brains. Hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter".


Sorry, but that's not quite correct.

The other 'common' use for carbon-tet was as a dry-cleaning fluid.

Hat-making used mercury in the making of the 'felt' from which many
types of hats are formed. (ranging from Stetsons, to Derbys.

Hatmakers _chewed_ (literally, as in 'masticated') the source
material, to soften it, prior to forming into final shapes.

The long-term effects of ingestion of low levels of mercury in
that work, did give rise to various forms of insanity.


The long-term effects of ingestion of low levels of mercury in
that work, did give rise to various forms of insanity.



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[1]Or maybe a "splasher?" ;-) It's held by a band of low-melting alloy,
which when it melts, drops the globe on whatever's under it...



As seen on the answer page, the word automatic is on the wall bracket that
holds it, so maybe that's a reference to the low melting alloy.

Rob



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R.H. wrote:

Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I
wasn't able to verify them so I've included them
in this new post.


My one piece of insight to share on #471 is that if you look at the red
numbers, they are different by 4 or 5 from the adjacent red numbers.
With the exception of 9 and 0 (which are either 1 or 9 apart, depending
on how you look at it.)

My gut feeling is that this dial is for remapping the 0-9 digits such
that adjacent digits do not come out near each other in the remap,
maybe something like a grey code. The 20-tooth cog and the
microswitch-style rider look like something out of a phone
pulse-switching system, although what kind of stepper switch they might
control I still do not fathom.

Tim.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:00:03 -0800, Tim Shoppa wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I
wasn't able to verify them so I've included them
in this new post.


My one piece of insight to share on #471 is that if you look at the red
numbers, they are different by 4 or 5 from the adjacent red numbers.
With the exception of 9 and 0 (which are either 1 or 9 apart, depending
on how you look at it.)

My gut feeling is that this dial is for remapping the 0-9 digits such
that adjacent digits do not come out near each other in the remap,
maybe something like a grey code. The 20-tooth cog and the
microswitch-style rider look like something out of a phone
pulse-switching system, although what kind of stepper switch they might
control I still do not fathom.


Maybe from an "Enigma" coder/decoder circa WWII. I'm almost sure I've
seen such a thing before - the 45 degree bevel on the back is a
dead giveaway that it stuck out from some console, but I can't remember
for the life of me where I've seen it.

Thanks,
Rich


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According to Rich Grise :
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:00:03 -0800, Tim Shoppa wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I
wasn't able to verify them so I've included them
in this new post.


My one piece of insight to share on #471 is that if you look at the red
numbers, they are different by 4 or 5 from the adjacent red numbers.
With the exception of 9 and 0 (which are either 1 or 9 apart, depending
on how you look at it.)

My gut feeling is that this dial is for remapping the 0-9 digits such
that adjacent digits do not come out near each other in the remap,
maybe something like a grey code. The 20-tooth cog and the
microswitch-style rider look like something out of a phone
pulse-switching system, although what kind of stepper switch they might
control I still do not fathom.


Maybe from an "Enigma" coder/decoder circa WWII. I'm almost sure I've
seen such a thing before - the 45 degree bevel on the back is a
dead giveaway that it stuck out from some console, but I can't remember
for the life of me where I've seen it.


Too simple to be an "enigma", which used several rotors, with
crossed wiring from contacts on one side to contacts on the other side,
and some subset of them were rotated with each new character entered.
There was a keyboard, which closed contacts, fed through all of the
rotors (I think that the general one was three rotor, and the submarine
force later got a four-rotor version), and the scrambled wiring
eventually lit a small lamp behind the character which stood for the
original one.

But it probably could be used for something like changing digits
in a key code book for cutting a key from the number on the lock. (They
would not want it to be too simple, but also not so difficult that a
locksmith could not make keys at need.

Enjoy,
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Rich Grise wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:00:03 -0800, Tim Shoppa wrote:
My one piece of insight to share on #471 is that if you look at the red
numbers, they are different by 4 or 5 from the adjacent red numbers.
With the exception of 9 and 0 (which are either 1 or 9 apart, depending
on how you look at it.)

My gut feeling is that this dial is for remapping the 0-9 digits such
that adjacent digits do not come out near each other in the remap,
maybe something like a grey code. The 20-tooth cog and the
microswitch-style rider look like something out of a phone
pulse-switching system, although what kind of stepper switch they might
control I still do not fathom.


Maybe from an "Enigma" coder/decoder circa WWII. I'm almost sure I've
seen such a thing before - the 45 degree bevel on the back is a
dead giveaway that it stuck out from some console, but I can't remember
for the life of me where I've seen it.


I think it's more likely from a simple machine (not a "coder/decoder"
like an Enigma machine) that has to scatter sequential digits such that
the are not adjacent in the machine's operation. Don's suggestion of a
key-cutter might be close, but it would do the mapping because you
don't really want a key cut to pattern #4 to be close to a key cut to
#3 or #5 (replace "key" with whatever this thing does! I think
security/encryption is a bit of a red herring, it's probably something
more to do with mechanical tolerances and not cutting a strip of
something too thin or maybe something more like the utility of a hash
index in computing.)

I can't rule out it being from some sort of encryption device but the
mapping is so straightforward that it would provide zero real security
itself.

And the fact that there are twenty teeth on the cog and twenty digits
(two different colors) around the dial has to mean something, I just
don't know what! Going back to the "hash index" idea, maybe there are
ten useful doohinkeys in a machine, and they don't want to wear any out
in favor of others, so at each shift change they advance the dial one
and use that setting on the machine.

As to style, it's simplicity and lack of adornment suggests something
like a East European public telephone from the 50's. At the same time,
it looks like it was machined out of solid billet (aluminum? and really
thick housing!) and not cast as a mass-produced item would be.

As enigmatic as Gary Larson's "Cow Tools" :-).

http://www.salon.com/people/portfoli...on/older4.html

Tim.



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According to Tim Shoppa :
Rich Grise wrote:


[ ... ]

Maybe from an "Enigma" coder/decoder circa WWII. I'm almost sure I've
seen such a thing before - the 45 degree bevel on the back is a
dead giveaway that it stuck out from some console, but I can't remember
for the life of me where I've seen it.


I think it's more likely from a simple machine (not a "coder/decoder"
like an Enigma machine) that has to scatter sequential digits such that
the are not adjacent in the machine's operation. Don's suggestion of a
key-cutter might be close, but it would do the mapping because you
don't really want a key cut to pattern #4 to be close to a key cut to
#3 or #5 (replace "key" with whatever this thing does! I think
security/encryption is a bit of a red herring, it's probably something
more to do with mechanical tolerances and not cutting a strip of
something too thin or maybe something more like the utility of a hash
index in computing.)

I can't rule out it being from some sort of encryption device but the
mapping is so straightforward that it would provide zero real security
itself.

And the fact that there are twenty teeth on the cog and twenty digits
(two different colors) around the dial has to mean something, I just
don't know what! Going back to the "hash index" idea, maybe there are
ten useful doohinkeys in a machine, and they don't want to wear any out
in favor of others, so at each shift change they advance the dial one
and use that setting on the machine.


Note that when one of the digits on the dial is aligned with the
leftmost index mark (clearly white), the red digits are visible through
the holes. When one of the digits on the dial is aligned with the
rightmost index mark (darker -- perhaps red), the white digits are
visible instead.

The white digits are sequential, but in reverse order of the
ones on the dial, while the red digits are scattered.

Using the white index, you have ten possible substitution
patterns, depending on which dial digit is aligned with the index.
Using the darker (possibly red) index, you have ten other possible
substitution patterns.

Perhaps it is for something simple like obfuscating codes being
broadcast -- say from a controller to police cars via radio.

The roller is not part of a switch, but rather just a detent, to
hold the "dial" at its last setting.

The angled base suggests that it should be on a desktop or a
console top. It is too dark to tell whether it has some drilled and
tapped holes for mounting to the surface, or perhaps has a black felt
pad to simply make it sort of non-slip.

As to style, it's simplicity and lack of adornment suggests something
like a East European public telephone from the 50's. At the same time,
it looks like it was machined out of solid billet (aluminum? and really
thick housing!) and not cast as a mass-produced item would be.


Agreed -- but someone cared enough to do a nice job of engraving
the digits and anodize the various parts rather nicely.

As enigmatic as Gary Larson's "Cow Tools" :-).

http://www.salon.com/people/portfoli...on/older4.html


I like that one.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:37:42 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote:
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....
As enigmatic as Gary Larson's "Cow Tools" :-).

http://www.salon.com/people/portfoli...on/older4.html


I like that one.


I don't get it. )-;

Thanks,
Rich

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"563 Old carbon tet fire extinguisher

564 Saw set

565 Ice crusher?

566 ?

567 Ammo pouches---M1 carbine? Garand?

568 leather skiving tool?


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R.H. wrote:
Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


Hi Rob...My guesses...

563 Is that a Galileo Thermometer Globe?
564 Saw Tooth Set
565 Art Deco (70's) mixer/blender
566 Cane Handle
567 WWI Ammo Belt
568 Crimping tool of some sort?

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bremen68 wrote:
R.H. wrote:

Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob



Hi Rob...My guesses...

563 Is that a Galileo Thermometer Globe?
564 Saw Tooth Set
565 Art Deco (70's) mixer/blender
566 Cane Handle
567 WWI Ammo Belt
568 Crimping tool of some sort?



565. Jetson's coffee grinder?

566. Place holding pointer used when reading from a Torah scroll?

That insect like thing depicted on it makes me wonder, but maybe it's a
representation of a locust like insect which is considered kosher?

http://oukosher.org/index.php/faqs/single/locusts/

Jeff



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I think that is suppose to represent a glove or hand gripping something,
Looks a lot like a glove from a suit of armour. It might be a cane top
without the stick??

Jeff Wisnia wrote:
bremen68 wrote:

R.H. wrote:

Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new
and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the
unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to
verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob




Hi Rob...My guesses...

563 Is that a Galileo Thermometer Globe?
564 Saw Tooth Set
565 Art Deco (70's) mixer/blender
566 Cane Handle
567 WWI Ammo Belt
568 Crimping tool of some sort?



565. Jetson's coffee grinder?

566. Place holding pointer used when reading from a Torah scroll?

That insect like thing depicted on it makes me wonder, but maybe it's a
representation of a locust like insect which is considered kosher?

http://oukosher.org/index.php/faqs/single/locusts/

Jeff



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The machineman entity posted thusly:

I think that is suppose to represent a glove or hand gripping something,
Looks a lot like a glove from a suit of armour. It might be a cane top
without the stick??


566: Candle holder?

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:12:30 -0500, Jeff Wisnia wrote:

bremen68 wrote:
R.H. wrote:

Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob



Hi Rob...My guesses...

563 Is that a Galileo Thermometer Globe?
564 Saw Tooth Set
565 Art Deco (70's) mixer/blender
566 Cane Handle
567 WWI Ammo Belt
568 Crimping tool of some sort?



565. Jetson's coffee grinder?

566. Place holding pointer used when reading from a Torah scroll?


The Monkey's Gauntlet. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

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566. Place holding pointer used when reading from a Torah scroll?

That insect like thing depicted on it makes me wonder, but maybe it's a
representation of a locust like insect which is considered kosher?


I think that it's supposed to be a dragon, though the head of it is lacking
in detail and is the weakest part of the piece.


Rob


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R.H. wrote:
Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


568. Stanley spokeshave with handles that attach on ends or with one
upright. Came with flat and curved bases, and a fence. Can't remember
the number offhand.

John Martin



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On 19/01/2006 11:29 AM, John Martin wrote:

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568. Stanley spokeshave with handles that attach on ends or with one
upright. Came with flat and curved bases, and a fence. Can't remember
the number offhand.


Good call. Stanley #67 "Universal".
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Doug Payne wrote:
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568. Stanley spokeshave with handles that attach on ends or with one
upright. Came with flat and curved bases, and a fence. Can't remember
the number offhand.


Good call. Stanley #67 "Universal".


You people should also be posting these answers as comments on the
puzzlephotos site, so the people who posted them can have the benefit of
your answers too!

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Speaking of spoken, I have a couple and I know a man with a huge garage
full.

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Hi

565 looks like an ice crusher from about 1960.

566 looks like a top piece for a walking stick,
but ir might be a bit small. Clearly a round
shaft ( 1/2 to 3/4 inch in diameter) fits into it.

Thanks
Roger Haar

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Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

Rob

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566. A "Beauty and the Beast" edition of a candle holder ?

246. Tool box ? jewelry box ?

447. some tool to place or remove horse shoes ?

212. a square peg for matching square holes ?

244. it looks like a rope could be put around in the gap around the screw,
and screwing the bottom part would hold the rope in place.
better yet, an identical object like this one would have its loop fit in
the gap. It could make a strange chain.




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Two sets of photos have been posted this week, the first one is new and the
second is a repost of unsolved objects. Some of the items in the unsolved
set may have been correctly answered previously but I wasn't able to verify
them so I've included them in this new post.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

Rob


518 looks very much like a foundry worker's "floor rammer".

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518 looks very much like a foundry worker's "floor rammer".

Tom



Yes, I think that it's some type of rammer/tamper, probably for sand but I
included it because I couldn't find another one like it to confirm its use.


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543: Seems like long ago an old timer pointed to one of those and said
it was a fencing tool. You looped the wire on one of the teeth and
levered it against whatever was handy to tighten the wire, and you
hammered staples with the hammerhead. How you held the wire tight while
you removed the puller and switched to the hammerhead is unclear.

447: I did get pictures of that last fall.
Well, I *took* some pictures. They didn't come out so good. I thought
there was enough light but there wasn't. I've been working on some of
them and if you want I can post the one or two that actually have
something to see on ABPW later this evening. I believe there's one
where you can clearly see this part as one piece of a one-man bucksaw.
I haven't talked about it because I'm embarassed about saying I was
going to take photos and then coming back with mostly pictures of a
black cat eating licorice in a cave at midnight.

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543: Seems like long ago an old timer pointed to one of those and said
it was a fencing tool. You looped the wire on one of the teeth and
levered it against whatever was handy to tighten the wire, and you
hammered staples with the hammerhead. How you held the wire tight while
you removed the puller and switched to the hammerhead is unclear.


That's not what I know as a "fencing tool", but it certainly looks like
it could be used for that.

The problem of tightening the wire and hammering in the staple at the
same time was one that happened with the fencing tool I know of, too.
What I remember doing was hammering the staple most of the way down over
the wire, and then pulling the wire tight and letting the staple do most
of the work of holding it there while I did the rest of the holding with
a gloved hand. Also, if you pull the wire tight in such a way that it
ends up wrapped partway around the fencepost, the friction against the
fencepost will help hold it tight.

Of course, I was about 12 at the time, so probably what happened more
often than not is that my father pulled the wire tight, and I used an
ordinary hammer to drive in the staple.

In any case, the hammerhead on a fencing tool of any sort is primarily
there for making occasionally repairs when you don't want to carry more
tools around; for actually building a fence, it makes a lot more sense
to use a proper hammer for the hammering.

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543: Seems like long ago an old timer pointed to one of those and said
it was a fencing tool. You looped the wire on one of the teeth and
levered it against whatever was handy to tighten the wire, and you
hammered staples with the hammerhead.


Sounds reasonable, though this tool doesn't look like it would be very
comfortable to hold with a bare hand.



447: I did get pictures of that last fall.
Well, I *took* some pictures. They didn't come out so good. I thought
there was enough light but there wasn't. I've been working on some of
them and if you want I can post the one or two that actually have
something to see on ABPW later this evening. I believe there's one
where you can clearly see this part as one piece of a one-man bucksaw.
I haven't talked about it because I'm embarassed about saying I was
going to take photos and then coming back with mostly pictures of a
black cat eating licorice in a cave at midnight.


Yes, please post them, I just did a google search on bucksaws and didn't see
anything like #447, so I'd be interested to see your photos.

Thanks,
Rob







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On Fri 20 Jan 2006 04:21:58p, "R.H." wrote in
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wrote in message
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543: Seems like long ago an old timer pointed to one of those and
said it was a fencing tool. You looped the wire on one of the teeth
and levered it against whatever was handy to tighten the wire, and
you hammered staples with the hammerhead.


Sounds reasonable, though this tool doesn't look like it would be very
comfortable to hold with a bare hand.


That was my exact thought too. But there's that hammerhead right there,
and if one assumes it's used the way one would normally use a hammer,
then there's either a part missing that would cover up all those teeth,
or people just put up with a lot of discomfort back then.

Or maybe both. :-)

them and if you want I can post the one or two that actually have
something to see on ABPW later this evening. I believe there's one
where you can clearly see this part as one piece of a one-man
bucksaw.


Yes, please post them, I just did a google search on bucksaws and
didn't see anything like #447, so I'd be interested to see your
photos.


Done. The subject is "One-man bucksaw - 3 attachments"
but it looks like I'm not a very good usenet user either. One of the
attachments didn't make it. Don't know why, I treated just like the
others with PaintShop Pro to resize it, but two of them made it and one
of them came through as gibberish text. Maybe I ought to send them just
one at a time.

If you want the third one I'll repost it but I think you can get the idea
from the two that made it. Let me know if you want me to try again.

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Done. The subject is "One-man bucksaw - 3 attachments"
but it looks like I'm not a very good usenet user either. One of the
attachments didn't make it. Don't know why, I treated just like the
others with PaintShop Pro to resize it, but two of them made it and one
of them came through as gibberish text. Maybe I ought to send them just
one at a time.

If you want the third one I'll repost it but I think you can get the idea
from the two that made it. Let me know if you want me to try again.

Dan


Where did you post them? I scanned the three groups that this thread is in
but didn't see a post with your subject line, maybe I just missed it.

Rob


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Done. The subject is "One-man bucksaw - 3 attachments"
but it looks like I'm not a very good usenet user either. One of the
attachments didn't make it. Don't know why, I treated just like the
others with PaintShop Pro to resize it, but two of them made it and one
of them came through as gibberish text. Maybe I ought to send them just
one at a time.

If you want the third one I'll repost it but I think you can get the idea
from the two that made it. Let me know if you want me to try again.

Dan


Where did you post them? I scanned the three groups that this thread is in
but didn't see a post with your subject line, maybe I just missed it.


A growing number of news servers reject articles with binary
attachments in non-binary newsgroups. The solution is to put the image
on a web site (the dropbox, if you don't have one of your own), and just
post the URL for it to the newsgroup.

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On Sat 21 Jan 2006 04:25:43p, "R.H." wrote in
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Where did you post them? I scanned the three groups that this thread
is in but didn't see a post with your subject line, maybe I just
missed it.


Ack. Sorry Rob. ABPW is
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking

If you can't get to that one, we'll have to work something out. As far as I
know, Google doesn't carry any of the binary groups so if that's all you
can use, we'll have to work on it.

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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:23:39 +0000, Dan wrote:
On Fri 20 Jan 2006 04:21:58p, "R.H." wrote in
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543: Seems like long ago an old timer pointed to one of those and
said it was a fencing tool. You looped the wire on one of the teeth
and levered it against whatever was handy to tighten the wire, and
you hammered staples with the hammerhead.


Sounds reasonable, though this tool doesn't look like it would be very
comfortable to hold with a bare hand.


That was my exact thought too. But there's that hammerhead right there,
and if one assumes it's used the way one would normally use a hammer,
then there's either a part missing that would cover up all those teeth,
or people just put up with a lot of discomfort back then.

Or maybe both. :-)


It wouldn't make much of a hammer with that swivel. I'm guessing that the
pointy part gets pounded into a post - i.e., you whack what looks like the
hammerhead, poke the point in, and you have kind of a swivel, which maybe
then you'd loop your fence wire over what looks like teeth, and pick a
tooth based on what kind of mechanical advantage you want as you tighten
the fence wire.

Well, that's my guess. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich



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