Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work.

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Mark S. Suever
 
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Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?

Thanks!!!!



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"Mark S. Suever" wrote:

Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?

Thanks!!!!


My buddy did this for his, at the time, girlfriend in a jewlery box.
He used one of the Cero metals, they make a variety, I believe it
was Ceromatrix. They expand on cooling and melt at, about boiling
water temp. Looks just as you wanted.
...lew...
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I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves



Herschel House did that sort of thing building a kentucky rifle in one
of his videos. In this case, it was making a chevron-style nose cap.

The wood was curly maple and he poured pewter into the design. Lead
pencil was used to help the pewter to flow into the grooves, and then
the whole thing was sanded smooth. No burning of the wood, and it
looked pretty sharp.

Another way of inlaying into wood involves using a bow drill, "passer
bit", and brass template. The passer bit is two pieces of sharp,
springy wire and they excavate the wood inside of the template design.
This is how brass inlay was done on things like rosewood squares in
the 19th century, and I believe violin bow-makers still do this to
inlay mother of pearl etc.

Good luck!

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Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?

Thanks!!!!


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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:58:52 -0700, "Mark S. Suever"
brought forth from the murky depths:

Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?


For fine work you can use a router with a 1/16" diameter bit to carve
out the pattern at an even depth, then hammer in silver banding. A
cabinet scraper or sander will pare it down smooth.

Or you can use the new metallic epoxies which don't need a flat
bottom. Fine Woodworking magazine did an article on that a couple
years ago. http://taunton.com/store/pages/fw_toc_159.asp
Look for "epoxy inlay" on Google, too.

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I was cutting a pizza with a round cutter. The pizza was on foil and the
foil on a wood cutting board. I now have the pattern of the cut pressed
into the wood with alluminum. Try that!


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Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?

Thanks!!!!





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Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?

Thanks!!!!





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Mark S. Suever wrote:

Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?

Thanks!!!!

you cant melt and pour metal into wood and have it look like it is part
of the original.. the hot metal will keep burning the wood and you gonna
have a crevise next to the wood on both sides and bottom and mess it
up.. the stuff you are talking about is prepared (metal) first and then
the wood is cut undersized and then the metal is pressed into the wood..
i guess yuo talking about a 1/16 in. line or so... all around the
outside of the objects... a shaened bottom on the metal might make it
work like a nail going into the wood,, more wood on top and a few hammer
blows would do this on small pieces... if you want something like the
size of a quarter to be sitting in the wood then you got to use a dremel
tool or such to get rid of the thickness of the quarter to remove the
wood where the quarter will go....
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dann mann
 
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Maybe guitar fret material would work. You can buy it in different
colors and widths. Rout a slot and hammer it in.
Silver solder might work also. Experiment on some scraps.




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Process was done on rifles from the early days of the country till mass
produced rifles were made in the factories.
I've seen it done on the Woodwright Shop program with a group doing old
rifles and they cut a groove in the wood and inserted a thin metal strip.
The process even included undercutting the wood so that the metal would be
hooked into the wood.
Thicker stuff may want casting but for the thin filligree, the above process
is probably the one to do. I'll note that any casting process will tend to
fall out due to the shrinkage of the metal as it cools along with the
burning of the wood while casting if the metal is too hot.

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In article tS8Mb.50784$gN.30113@fed1read05, Mark S. Suever
wrote:

Hi,

I would like to carve out a design on a wood surface and then somehow melt
or embed a silver/chrome looking metal/material into the grooves. Then I
want to sand it really smooth so that it looks like its part of the wood.
Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated?

Thanks!!!!




Brownells Gunsmithing supply sells all the materiels for doing this.
It is usually done with a very small router bit and a template.
The grooves are filled with a silver or gold polymer stick that is
melted and dripped into the grooves, then sanded off.

www.brownells.com/
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You can also try ordinary solder. Depending on the wood and the temperature
of the solder, it may not scorch the wood noticably. A friend of mine did this
on hardwoods. The wood was round, and the groove in it went all the way
around, and (if I recall correctly - this was long ago) he laid some copper
wire in the groove to give the solder some extra reinforcement. But try it
out.

Dave Golber
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