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Old January 6th 06, 04:19 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
Rex B
 
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wrote:
The Seig X2 mini mill (HF item 44991) is a remarkable well made little
machine (I just CNC'd one), certainly no Bridgeport, but a solid little
machine with a convenient R8 spindle. I got this for $359 between a sale
and a 20% coupon, regular $500.



Can anyone give me he specifics on what this 20% e-mail is all about. I
get e-mails from Harbor Freight all the time but nothing like that.

Also, concerning a Mini-mill, I'll need to make some small parts, and
I'm well aware that a mini-mill wouldn't be an adequate machine for
many here, but since I'm a newbie with very little space, and need to
begin somewhere, I was hoping to get reocommendations on what to keep
my eyes open for.(New or used).

I guess that accuracy, XYZ travel length, and ridgidity are all
important, but you can only get so much in such a small machine. But
any advice would be appreciated.


The minimill is probably the best bang for the buck if it fits your work
envelope. Buy new on a deal like the above. I have yet to see one used
at a better deal. R8 collets, endmill set, and maybe an indexable
endmill adds less than $100.

Next step up is the round-column mill-drill. Bigger work envelope,
round-column issues as beaten to death here and elsewhere. But otherwise
a workhorse. About $600 on sale, maybe less combine with a HF coupon.

Next would be the Seig X3. About the same work envelope as a MD, but has
a dovetail column. Big brother to the minimill. $959 intro price at Grizzly.

Then you get to the benchtop knee-mills at about $1500 and up ?

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Old January 7th 06, 02:50 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Rex B wrote:
wrote:
The Seig X2 mini mill (HF item 44991) is a remarkable well made little
machine (I just CNC'd one), certainly no Bridgeport, but a solid little
machine with a convenient R8 spindle. I got this for $359 between a sale
and a 20% coupon, regular $500.



Can anyone give me he specifics on what this 20% e-mail is all about. I
get e-mails from Harbor Freight all the time but nothing like that.

Also, concerning a Mini-mill, I'll need to make some small parts, and
I'm well aware that a mini-mill wouldn't be an adequate machine for
many here, but since I'm a newbie with very little space, and need to
begin somewhere, I was hoping to get reocommendations on what to keep
my eyes open for.(New or used).

I guess that accuracy, XYZ travel length, and ridgidity are all
important, but you can only get so much in such a small machine. But
any advice would be appreciated.


The minimill is probably the best bang for the buck if it fits your work
envelope. Buy new on a deal like the above. I have yet to see one used
at a better deal. R8 collets, endmill set, and maybe an indexable
endmill adds less than $100.


But which particular mini mill would you recommend? 1) The Seig X2, 2)
the "Two Speed Variable Mini Mill/Drill Machine" from Harbor Frieght,
or 3) the "Microlux Milling Machine" from Micro-Mark? (If all three of
them aren't the same machine, which they look to be).

Next step up is the round-column mill-drill. Bigger work envelope,
round-column issues as beaten to death here and elsewhere. But otherwise
a workhorse. About $600 on sale, maybe less combine with a HF coupon.


Too heavy for me.

Next would be the Seig X3. About the same work envelope as a MD, but has
a dovetail column. Big brother to the minimill. $959 intro price at Grizzly.


Too heavy and too pricey for me.

Then you get to the benchtop knee-mills at about $1500 and up ?


Way too heavy and pricey for me.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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Old January 8th 06, 01:47 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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On 7 Jan 2006 05:50:13 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth:

But which particular mini mill would you recommend? 1) The Seig X2, 2)
the "Two Speed Variable Mini Mill/Drill Machine" from Harbor Frieght,
or 3) the "Microlux Milling Machine" from Micro-Mark? (If all three of
them aren't the same machine, which they look to be).


See this comparison for more info, Searcher.
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_mill/...s/versions.htm
The $379 HF 42976 mill/drill has been discontinued.

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Old January 8th 06, 03:31 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Default Harbor Freight does it again...

What most folx don't know is that in last month there's been a radical,
groundbreaking,
momentous development in what us hobby machinists can get here in US.

Drum rolllll ... Grizzly is now carrying Sieg X3 for something like
$900 http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0463


This IS the mill to get. I would, if I didn't have the X2 already.

This thing is just right size & power to fit between X2 and RF45
clones.

It is small enough to fit into any garage/basement, you can move it
around on the bench, you don't have to pay a team of 5 $1000 to get it
down
stairs etc etc.

What it lacks is track record and CNC plans. I am sure we will have CNC
taken care of shortly.

About belt snapping on HF's mini-mill: X2 is direct drive (gears,
mostly plastic).
I converted mine to belt drive and it's been wisper quiet ever since.

The X3 is drive-belt outta-box, a MUCH desired feature. Less noise, the
belt
will absorb load shocks and save the gears (if any). I am not sure if
X3 has
any gears at all, or it is a toothed pulley right on the spindle.



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Old January 8th 06, 04:09 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On 7 Jan 2006 05:50:13 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth:

But which particular mini mill would you recommend? 1) The Seig X2, 2)
the "Two Speed Variable Mini Mill/Drill Machine" from Harbor Frieght,
or 3) the "Microlux Milling Machine" from Micro-Mark? (If all three of
them aren't the same machine, which they look to be).


See this comparison for more info, Searcher.
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_mill/...s/versions.htm
The $379 HF 42976 mill/drill has been discontinued.


Thanks.

I aready read that page twice. I was just looking for opinions
concerning the slight differences betweeen those machines.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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Old January 8th 06, 05:43 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On 5 Jan 2006 21:23:03 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth:

The Seig X2 mini mill (HF item 44991) is a remarkable well made little
machine (I just CNC'd one), certainly no Bridgeport, but a solid little
machine with a convenient R8 spindle. I got this for $359 between a sale
and a 20% coupon, regular $500.


Can anyone give me he specifics on what this 20% e-mail is all about. I
get e-mails from Harbor Freight all the time but nothing like that.


I wrote this to Roy last month:

--snip--
How did you get the 20% off coupon?


On their funky, priceless promo sote, Roy. Sign up for free email ads
at
www.harborfreightusa.com .

Top right link says:

FREE
Receive: discounts,
coupons, specials
Click Here


I am not a company, so that doesn't work.(Funny how they still send me
e-mails everyday on discounted stuff I don't need.

I've been looking at the mini-mills(or Mill/drills) that are all
supposed to come from the same factory in China, and noticed slight
differences the posted images/claims of these machines even though they
are supposed to be the same.

http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1485.htm
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44991
http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares...oduct&ID=82573

Can I get recommendations from anyone that has had experience with
these?

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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Old January 8th 06, 07:17 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On 5 Jan 2006 21:23:03 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth:

The Seig X2 mini mill (HF item 44991) is a remarkable well made little
machine (I just CNC'd one), certainly no Bridgeport, but a solid little
machine with a convenient R8 spindle. I got this for $359 between a sale
and a 20% coupon, regular $500.


Can anyone give me he specifics on what this 20% e-mail is all about. I
get e-mails from Harbor Freight all the time but nothing like that.


I wrote this to Roy last month:

--snip--
How did you get the 20% off coupon?


On their funky, priceless promo sote, Roy. Sign up for free email ads
at
www.harborfreightusa.com .

Top right link says:

FREE
Receive: discounts,
coupons, specials
Click Here


I am not a company, so that doesn't work.(Funny how they still send me
e-mails everyday on discounted stuff I don't need.

I've been looking at the mini-mills(or Mill/drills) that are all
supposed to come from the same factory in China, and noticed slight
differences the posted images/claims of these machines even though they
are supposed to be the same.

http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1485.htm
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44991
http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares...oduct&ID=82573

Can I get recommendations from anyone that has had experience with
these?

Thanks a lot.

P.S: I made tree attempts to post thsi question in another thread(via
Google), but for some reason the posts are not showing up.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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Old January 8th 06, 08:00 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On 7 Jan 2006 05:50:13 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth:

But which particular mini mill would you recommend? 1) The Seig X2, 2)
the "Two Speed Variable Mini Mill/Drill Machine" from Harbor Frieght,
or 3) the "Microlux Milling Machine" from Micro-Mark? (If all three of
them aren't the same machine, which they look to be).


See this comparison for more info, Searcher.
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Mini_mill/...s/versions.htm
The $379 HF 42976 mill/drill has been discontinued.


I had already read that page twice, and though these are all supposed
to come from the same factory in China, I noticed slight differences in
the posted images/claims of these machines even though they are
supposed to be the same.

http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1485.htm
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44991
http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares...oduct&ID=82573

Can I get recommendations from anyone that has had experience with
these?

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.



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