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Roy December 25th 03 02:46 AM

Question on bandsaw wheels / tires
 
I know about needing a crown, but is a crown necessary on all three or
two wheels of a bandsaw or just the wheel used for tracking? Reason
I ask is that my belt sander I bought has only one crowned wheel out
of three, the belt snader I made uses only one crowned wheel, but the
premade polyurethane tires you buy for bandsaws are all pre-crowned.

IIRC only the tracking adjustment wheel on the DoAll at work was
crowned, but then again it was pretty hard to really tell if the
others may or may not have been crowned as the tires on it were very
old and worn and made up of mostly rubber inner tube material and
electrical tape, but it seemed to track fine.

So, do I need to crown one, two or all three wheels? If only one or
two which ones require it. I was going to crown all three, but that
can change if there really is no need for it.

Thanks for any input.
Roy
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Kevin Beitz December 25th 03 02:13 PM

Question on band-saw wheels / tires
 
My wheels on my metal cutting band saw has no crown... It has a ledge
on the back of the wheels instead. the wheel tilts back just a hair to
keep the blade tight to the ledge... My wood band saw has crowns on
both wheels...

DoN. Nichols December 26th 03 04:46 AM

Question on band-saw wheels / tires
 
In article ,
Kevin Beitz wrote:
My wheels on my metal cutting band saw has no crown... It has a ledge
on the back of the wheels instead. the wheel tilts back just a hair to
keep the blade tight to the ledge...


Is this one of the 4x6 horizontal/vertical bandsaws? Those can
get away with that because they are designed for only a single width of
blade -- 1/2". Anything much wider is likely to slip off (as well as to
attack the cover), and anything narrower will have its teeth (at least
the set) damaged by the contact with the metal wheels.

The crown is needed on saws which can handle a wider range of
sawblade widths -- and with a rubber tire they don't damage the set of
the teeth.

My wood band saw has crowns on
both wheels...


As do serious metal-cutting bandsaws.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Toolbert December 26th 03 05:01 AM

Question on band-saw wheels / tires
 
My powermatic (vertical) has a hard polyurethane tire on the bottom wheel,
and is supposed to have a crowned upper tire. However the upper tire is
worn concave. Still tracks OK, I just have to keep the upper wheel tilted
back enough that the back edge of the blade rolls on the rear guide wheels.
Considering I routinely push with 50+ lbs force on the blade edge, it's not
like dragging on the blade rolls is a problem.

As for tracking "free", without benefit of the blade guides, one crowned
wheel should be sufficient, it may just be a more finicky adjustment than
two crowned.

Bob



Stan Schaefer December 26th 03 05:29 AM

Question on band-saw wheels / tires
 
(Kevin Beitz) wrote in message . com...
My wheels on my metal cutting band saw has no crown... It has a ledge
on the back of the wheels instead. the wheel tilts back just a hair to
keep the blade tight to the ledge... My wood band saw has crowns on
both wheels...


Yes, this is so. So what's the question?

Stan

Bob Thomasson December 26th 03 06:22 PM

Question on band-saw wheels / tires
 
Kevin,

If your metal cutting saw is like many I've seen it may be due to the
guides on the horizontal metal cutting saw forcing the blade to twist
at an angle. With the guides forcing the blade to twist, maybe a
crown is not enough and the wheels need the lip on the back to keep
the blade tracking properly.

I've been working on designing a horizontal woodcutting bandmill and
I've found that there are all kinds of tires, crowned and uncrowned,
and solid steel wheels (no rubber tires). So, it seems almost like a
Ford vs Chevy issue. The large industrial saws seem to use crowned
solid steel wheels, many of the smaller bandmills just use v-belt
sheaves with a belt slipped over them for bandwheels.

I've seen a few internet discussions and papers on bandwheel crowns
and I guess the physics of it can be pretty interesting.

Bob


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