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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:28:30 GMT, Shmaryahu b. Chanoch
wrote: Shades of Star Trek IV, "The Voyage Home", and the transparent aluminum used to create an aquarium for the whales on board the spaceship. Now it really exists and is coming into use for bulletproof vehicle windows. (Great for embassies or even aircraft). Geostrategy-Direct Week of December 20, 2005 MILITARY TECHNOLOGY U.S. tests new ceramic armor made of aluminum oxynitride The U.S. Air Force has tested a transparent armor that is stronger and lighter than traditional materials and is capable of stopping armor-piercing weapons from penetrating vehicle windows. The armor is meant to replace traditional multi-layered glass transparencies - thick layers of bonded glass - installed in ground and air armored vehicles. The Air Force Research Laboratory's materials and manufacturing directorate evaluated aluminum oxynitride, or ALON - a ceramic compound having high compressive strength and durability. First Lt. Joseph La Monica, an Air Force officer involved in the project, said that ALON represents the premier transparent armor for use in combat vehicles. La Monica said ALON is "light years ahead of glass" and offers higher performance and lighter weight. ALON is virtually scratch resistant, ensures substantial impact resistance and offers better durability and protection against armor-piercing threats. The substance, which can also protect helicopters, is about half the weight and thickness of traditional glass transparent armor. The new armor employs a transparent piece of ALON as a strike plate with a middle section of glass and polymer backing. Each layer is visibly thinner than traditional layers. In a June 2004 demonstration, ALON withstood both a .30-caliber Russian M-44 sniper rifle and a .50-caliber Browning sniper rifle with armor piercing bullets. While the bullets pierced the glass samples, the armor withstood the impact without penetration. ALON was also tested against multiple hits from .50-caliber rounds. The tests also sought to determine whether the substance could withstand improvised explosive devices. "The higher the threat, the more savings you're going to get," La Monica said. "With glass, to get the protection against higher threats, you have to keep building layers upon layers. But with ALON, the material only needs to be increased a few millimeters." La Monica said the Army is examining using the new armor for windows in such ground vehicles as the Humvee. At the same time, the Air Force is studying the feasibility of ALON for windows in slow-flying aircraft such as the C-130 Hercules, C-17 Globemaster III, A-10 Thunderbolt II and helicopters. A key issue is the price of ALON, which costs between three and five times that of traditional transparent armor. La Monica said the military was seeking cost-effective alternatives. "It might cost more in the beginning, but it is going to cost less in the long run because you are going to have to replace it less," La Monica said. --- "If ye love wealth better than liberty ... servitude better than ... freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms ... May your chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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If this stuff is so good, why can't I get my glasses made out of it.
gary "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:28:30 GMT, Shmaryahu b. Chanoch wrote: Shades of Star Trek IV, "The Voyage Home", and the transparent aluminum used to create an aquarium for the whales on board the spaceship. Now it really exists and is coming into use for bulletproof vehicle windows. (Great for embassies or even aircraft). Geostrategy-Direct Week of December 20, 2005 MILITARY TECHNOLOGY U.S. tests new ceramic armor made of aluminum oxynitride The U.S. Air Force has tested a transparent armor that is stronger and lighter than traditional materials and is capable of stopping armor-piercing weapons from penetrating vehicle windows. The armor is meant to replace traditional multi-layered glass transparencies - thick layers of bonded glass - installed in ground and air armored vehicles. The Air Force Research Laboratory's materials and manufacturing directorate evaluated aluminum oxynitride, or ALON - a ceramic compound having high compressive strength and durability. First Lt. Joseph La Monica, an Air Force officer involved in the project, said that ALON represents the premier transparent armor for use in combat vehicles. La Monica said ALON is "light years ahead of glass" and offers higher performance and lighter weight. ALON is virtually scratch resistant, ensures substantial impact resistance and offers better durability and protection against armor-piercing threats. The substance, which can also protect helicopters, is about half the weight and thickness of traditional glass transparent armor. The new armor employs a transparent piece of ALON as a strike plate with a middle section of glass and polymer backing. Each layer is visibly thinner than traditional layers. In a June 2004 demonstration, ALON withstood both a .30-caliber Russian M-44 sniper rifle and a .50-caliber Browning sniper rifle with armor piercing bullets. While the bullets pierced the glass samples, the armor withstood the impact without penetration. ALON was also tested against multiple hits from .50-caliber rounds. The tests also sought to determine whether the substance could withstand improvised explosive devices. "The higher the threat, the more savings you're going to get," La Monica said. "With glass, to get the protection against higher threats, you have to keep building layers upon layers. But with ALON, the material only needs to be increased a few millimeters." La Monica said the Army is examining using the new armor for windows in such ground vehicles as the Humvee. At the same time, the Air Force is studying the feasibility of ALON for windows in slow-flying aircraft such as the C-130 Hercules, C-17 Globemaster III, A-10 Thunderbolt II and helicopters. A key issue is the price of ALON, which costs between three and five times that of traditional transparent armor. La Monica said the military was seeking cost-effective alternatives. "It might cost more in the beginning, but it is going to cost less in the long run because you are going to have to replace it less," La Monica said. --- "If ye love wealth better than liberty ... servitude better than ... freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms ... May your chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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"Gary Owens" wrote in news:Gtgrf.890$bd.723
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com: If this stuff is so good, why can't I get my glasses made out of it. HEAR, HEAR!!!! |
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Probably won't be long. It can be injection molded which should make it
fairly easy to produce lenses. It does cost about $10/sq.in. compared to maybe $.02 for acrylic. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Gary Owens" wrote in message ... If this stuff is so good, why can't I get my glasses made out of it. gary |
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![]() "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:28:30 GMT, Shmaryahu b. Chanoch wrote: Shades of Star Trek IV, "The Voyage Home", and the transparent aluminum used to create an aquarium for the whales on board the spaceship. Now it really exists and is coming into use for bulletproof vehicle windows. (Great for embassies or even aircraft). Geostrategy-Direct Week of December 20, 2005 MILITARY TECHNOLOGY U.S. tests new ceramic armor made of aluminum oxynitride The U.S. Air Force has tested a transparent armor that is stronger and lighter than traditional materials and is capable of stopping armor-piercing weapons from penetrating vehicle windows. The armor is meant to replace traditional multi-layered glass transparencies - thick layers of bonded glass - installed in ground and air armored vehicles. The Air Force Research Laboratory's materials and manufacturing directorate evaluated aluminum oxynitride, or ALON - a ceramic compound having high compressive strength and durability. First Lt. Joseph La Monica, an Air Force officer involved in the project, said that ALON represents the premier transparent armor for use in combat vehicles. La Monica said ALON is "light years ahead of glass" and offers higher performance and lighter weight. ALON is virtually scratch resistant, ensures substantial impact resistance and offers better durability and protection against armor-piercing threats. The substance, which can also protect helicopters, is about half the weight and thickness of traditional glass transparent armor. The new armor employs a transparent piece of ALON as a strike plate with a middle section of glass and polymer backing. Each layer is visibly thinner than traditional layers. In a June 2004 demonstration, ALON withstood both a .30-caliber Russian M-44 sniper rifle and a .50-caliber Browning sniper rifle with armor piercing bullets. While the bullets pierced the glass samples, the armor withstood the impact without penetration. ALON was also tested against multiple hits from .50-caliber rounds. The tests also sought to determine whether the substance could withstand improvised explosive devices. It would be nice if there was some info. on ALON thickness. Just to say it can resist penetration from a .50 armour piercing loses meaning. Lexan at some thickness can do the same. In fact ANY material at some thickness would stop the .50 cal. I agree it must be quite the material though. Just for reference, does anyone know how thick a plate of mild steel would need to be to stop a .50 cal AP? Dixon |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:19:20 -0500, "Dixon"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:28:30 GMT, Shmaryahu b. Chanoch wrote: Shades of Star Trek IV, "The Voyage Home", and the transparent aluminum used to create an aquarium for the whales on board the spaceship. Now it really exists and is coming into use for bulletproof vehicle windows. (Great for embassies or even aircraft). Geostrategy-Direct Week of December 20, 2005 MILITARY TECHNOLOGY U.S. tests new ceramic armor made of aluminum oxynitride The U.S. Air Force has tested a transparent armor that is stronger and lighter than traditional materials and is capable of stopping armor-piercing weapons from penetrating vehicle windows. The armor is meant to replace traditional multi-layered glass transparencies - thick layers of bonded glass - installed in ground and air armored vehicles. The Air Force Research Laboratory's materials and manufacturing directorate evaluated aluminum oxynitride, or ALON - a ceramic compound having high compressive strength and durability. First Lt. Joseph La Monica, an Air Force officer involved in the project, said that ALON represents the premier transparent armor for use in combat vehicles. La Monica said ALON is "light years ahead of glass" and offers higher performance and lighter weight. ALON is virtually scratch resistant, ensures substantial impact resistance and offers better durability and protection against armor-piercing threats. The substance, which can also protect helicopters, is about half the weight and thickness of traditional glass transparent armor. The new armor employs a transparent piece of ALON as a strike plate with a middle section of glass and polymer backing. Each layer is visibly thinner than traditional layers. In a June 2004 demonstration, ALON withstood both a .30-caliber Russian M-44 sniper rifle and a .50-caliber Browning sniper rifle with armor piercing bullets. While the bullets pierced the glass samples, the armor withstood the impact without penetration. ALON was also tested against multiple hits from .50-caliber rounds. The tests also sought to determine whether the substance could withstand improvised explosive devices. It would be nice if there was some info. on ALON thickness. Just to say it can resist penetration from a .50 armour piercing loses meaning. Lexan at some thickness can do the same. In fact ANY material at some thickness would stop the .50 cal. I agree it must be quite the material though. Just for reference, does anyone know how thick a plate of mild steel would need to be to stop a .50 cal AP? Dixon If I recall correctly, about 3" if the range is less than 200 yards. At 500 meters..it takes 27" of sand to stop a standard .50 BMG round Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Planned obsolescence.
Karl "Gary Owens" wrote in message ... If this stuff is so good, why can't I get my glasses made out of it. gary "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:28:30 GMT, Shmaryahu b. Chanoch wrote: Shades of Star Trek IV, "The Voyage Home", and the transparent aluminum used to create an aquarium for the whales on board the spaceship. Now it really exists and is coming into use for bulletproof vehicle windows. (Great for embassies or even aircraft). Geostrategy-Direct Week of December 20, 2005 MILITARY TECHNOLOGY U.S. tests new ceramic armor made of aluminum oxynitride The U.S. Air Force has tested a transparent armor that is stronger and lighter than traditional materials and is capable of stopping armor-piercing weapons from penetrating vehicle windows. The armor is meant to replace traditional multi-layered glass transparencies - thick layers of bonded glass - installed in ground and air armored vehicles. The Air Force Research Laboratory's materials and manufacturing directorate evaluated aluminum oxynitride, or ALON - a ceramic compound having high compressive strength and durability. First Lt. Joseph La Monica, an Air Force officer involved in the project, said that ALON represents the premier transparent armor for use in combat vehicles. La Monica said ALON is "light years ahead of glass" and offers higher performance and lighter weight. ALON is virtually scratch resistant, ensures substantial impact resistance and offers better durability and protection against armor-piercing threats. The substance, which can also protect helicopters, is about half the weight and thickness of traditional glass transparent armor. The new armor employs a transparent piece of ALON as a strike plate with a middle section of glass and polymer backing. Each layer is visibly thinner than traditional layers. In a June 2004 demonstration, ALON withstood both a .30-caliber Russian M-44 sniper rifle and a .50-caliber Browning sniper rifle with armor piercing bullets. While the bullets pierced the glass samples, the armor withstood the impact without penetration. ALON was also tested against multiple hits from .50-caliber rounds. The tests also sought to determine whether the substance could withstand improvised explosive devices. "The higher the threat, the more savings you're going to get," La Monica said. "With glass, to get the protection against higher threats, you have to keep building layers upon layers. But with ALON, the material only needs to be increased a few millimeters." La Monica said the Army is examining using the new armor for windows in such ground vehicles as the Humvee. At the same time, the Air Force is studying the feasibility of ALON for windows in slow-flying aircraft such as the C-130 Hercules, C-17 Globemaster III, A-10 Thunderbolt II and helicopters. A key issue is the price of ALON, which costs between three and five times that of traditional transparent armor. La Monica said the military was seeking cost-effective alternatives. "It might cost more in the beginning, but it is going to cost less in the long run because you are going to have to replace it less," La Monica said. --- "If ye love wealth better than liberty ... servitude better than ... freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms ... May your chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Probably won't be long. It can be injection molded which should make it fairly easy to produce lenses. It does cost about $10/sq.in. compared to maybe $.02 for acrylic. But how easy is it to cut to shape? -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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