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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
My opinion is that most Snap-On tools are not worth what that little truck charges you for them. The whole program seems to be built around the idea of providing DECENT tools for the trade on credit. As far as breaking tools go, you can break an anvil if you don't know what the hell you are doing... If you love Snap-On fine but, there are other fine tool companies out there. Gotta agree with you here, Edward. In fact I think their whole marketing scheme is based on a fallacy that they are somehow better than anything else. It's a "King's New Clothes" mentality. I learned long ago that the "Snap-On King" was butt nekked ). I was a mechanic & service manager for many years and a marine dealer as well. Our tools were our bread & butter. SO are fine tools but no better, IMO, than Kobalt (& many other major brands) and you can get a set of Kobalt comb. wrenches for the price of one SO. I've never broken one and often use BIG cheaters on them G. Some of the Craftsman tools are also excellent. I think the older stainless ratchet was/is the best one I've ever used (discontinued). I have tools I was using in the 60's that are still going strong and will be long after I'm gone. Buy & use whatever you like but don't try to convince me they are better just because they cost 6-8 times as much ). Sometimes you get what you pay for... and sometimes you don't g Greg Sefton |
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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
On 07 Nov 2003 04:03 PM, Neil Nelson posted the following:
The most obvious trait to me is how easily the chrome plating chips/peels from the cheap brand tools (Craftsman, Matco, Mac), not what I'd want floating around inside the engine of the next airliner I get on. :-( We obviously aren't using the same Mac and Craftsman tools. Never used Matco so I can't say about them. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
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Del Rawlins wrote: On 07 Nov 2003 04:03 PM, Neil Nelson posted the following: The most obvious trait to me is how easily the chrome plating chips/peels from the cheap brand tools (Craftsman, Matco, Mac), not what I'd want floating around inside the engine of the next airliner I get on. :-( We obviously aren't using the same Mac and Craftsman tools. Not unless you're sneaking into my shop when I'm not looking... Never used Matco so I can't say about them. As I posted earlier, my first experience with them was somewhat less than impressive. |
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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
On 08 Nov 2003 08:04 PM, C. E. White posted the following:
Neil Nelson wrote: The most obvious trait to me is how easily the chrome plating chips/peels from the cheap brand tools (Craftsman, Matco, Mac), not what I'd want floating around inside the engine of the next airliner I get on. :-( I was told by a former Coast Guard plane chief that chrome plated tools were not allowed - Is this true? He also said all the tools were kept by a crib and checked out. If they weren't all checked in, the plane didn't fly till they accounted for it. A buddy of mine was a parachute rigger in the air national guard and he mentioned the tool inventory thing to me once. Never heard the one about chrome plated tools. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
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Del Rawlins wrote: On 08 Nov 2003 08:04 PM, C. E. White posted the following: Neil Nelson wrote: The most obvious trait to me is how easily the chrome plating chips/peels from the cheap brand tools (Craftsman, Matco, Mac), not what I'd want floating around inside the engine of the next airliner I get on. :-( I was told by a former Coast Guard plane chief that chrome plated tools were not allowed - Is this true? He also said all the tools were kept by a crib and checked out. If they weren't all checked in, the plane didn't fly till they accounted for it. A buddy of mine was a parachute rigger in the air national guard and he mentioned the tool inventory thing to me once. Never heard the one about chrome plated tools. Seems like I've heard of most tool manufactures going through plating, brittle and/or whatever spells from time to time. Even the great Snap On had a bad plating problem for a while... Snap On makes most of their line in black oxide finish too... pretty much the same thing, but cheaper, and slightly less apt to 'walk off' from various shops that supply tools. I've heard a Snap On industrial rep tell buyers to shut up technicians moaning over not getting chrome tools by using the plating contamination 'line'. You have to be careful to keep a coat of oil on the black oxides... and they're a little easier to misplace because of the dark color... but are otherwise the same. Erik |
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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
I bought my first set of Craftsman tools in the 70's and continued buying them.
I have busted one socket. I have more problems with smaller tooling like punches. I'm always bending these. I have had problems with their torque wrenches also. What torque wrenches do you guys like? Gary Repesh |
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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
I'm active duty Coast Guard and although I'm not an "airedale", I've
flown with them in the past. I've never heard of the chrome plating issue, but when they worked on the C-130's they had tool chests that used the foam cutouts for their ALL the tools they carried in the chest. Like what was mentioned earlier, if a tool was missing, the aircraft didn't fly until they found it. On a side bar, back then one of our (non-airedale) bitches against the airdales was they could obtain Snap-On and Craftsman tools, and we had to only buy real junk as the good stuff wasn't available to us. If we tried to order Snap-On or Craftsman, the order would be canceled or a junk tool brand would be substituted. I'm talking discount store quality tools here. Since then the system has caught up with the times and we now can order what we want. Dave Young |
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Why do you buy Snap-on tools?
Snap-on torque wrenches and timing lights - all I'll use. Interestingly (or
perhaps not) that's the extent of my Snap-on collection. My tools go the race track, and Snap-on goes walkabout there, guaranteed. I was buying Husky, but they seem to have changed recently. Perhaps if I worked in an environment where I broke sockets or wrenches, which I don't, I might have a different opinion. Maybe I just don't abuse tools like some people do? I have to admit that my friends Snap-on 1/4" drive stuff is a lot nicer than mine. Brian "GJRepesh" wrote in message ... I bought my first set of Craftsman tools in the 70's and continued buying them. I have busted one socket. I have more problems with smaller tooling like punches. I'm always bending these. I have had problems with their torque wrenches also. What torque wrenches do you guys like? Gary Repesh |
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