I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this coming up.
I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the radio, so I make
MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them through a little
Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered speakers. Works great, but I
need a better stand for the player. Anyone designed one? Should protect it from
chips and dust, but be very accessible and very stable. - GWE

Zip lock bag and a thumbtack

Grant,
I think I would mount it on the wall. Speaker wires could run a ways if
necessary. A swing up lid would protect it from the shop elements and the
wall mount keeps it out of the way. You could always slot the bottom of the
box/shelf for airflow if the unit gets warm at all. So, what kind of music
soothes your savage beast when the stress needs relief?????
Respectfully,
Ron Moore


"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the
radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them
through a little Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered
speakers. Works great, but I need a better stand for the player. Anyone
designed one? Should protect it from chips and dust, but be very
accessible and very stable. - GWE

I like to listen to music, but it can be very distracting if it is loud
and I often find myself needing to hear the sounds of the machines to
figure out feeds and speeds. I play the radio on a stero in the main
shop, so when I am in the machine room I hear it softly in the
background. The stero is hooked to some old car speakers.

HOw about a cheap plastic box with a hole drilled in it for the wires?

LLB

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up.
I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the radio, so I
make
MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them through a little
Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered speakers. Works great,
but I
need a better stand for the player. Anyone designed one? Should protect it
from
chips and dust, but be very accessible and very stable. - GWE

Grant,

For my CD player and CDs, I made a simple rectangular box with a nailer
strip on back and mounted it on the concrete wall above my lathe. Same
kind of cabinet construction as an upper kitchen cabinet, except I
wasn't in a cabinet making mood and used scrap plywood. I did drill
some holes for shelf pins so now I have all my CDs in my garage since
I'm not allowed to listen to them in the house anyway.

Dust hasn't hurt the player and I've been seeing MP3 walkmen-type
players for $20s (a far cry from the $300 I spent when they first came
out).

But lately, I've been thinking of switching to a set of "Peltor Race
Tunes" and using those with some kind of ipod device.

Anyone have any experience with the Race Tunes headset?

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:48:15 -0700, Grant Erwin
wrote:

I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this coming up.
I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the radio, so I make
MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them through a little
Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered speakers. Works great, but I
need a better stand for the player. Anyone designed one? Should protect it from
chips and dust, but be very accessible and very stable. - GWE
Grant,
I wear hearing protection that I have installed headphne speakers in.
I plug them into a little pocket radio. Then I use my computer,through
an FM transmitter, to broadcast either music or radio shows that are
webcast. That way I don't have to blast the sound to hear it above the
ambient machine shop noise.
Eric

For a little humor and some function and maybe some truth for
people forced to listen to your version of music how about
mounting it on a toilet seat and hanging it on the wall. The lid
will protect your treasure from dust, debris, and flying objects.

I have a picture of our secretary mounted in a really nice oak
seat. I sure hope someone always remembers to put the lid down if
they see her coming.

I had to cut one in half to frame a picture of my half assed BIL
(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed
this coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys.
Can't stand the radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on
each of 'em and play them through a little Walkman-type player,
into some Bose self-powered speakers. Works great, but I need a
better stand for the player. Anyone designed one? Should protect
it from chips and dust, but be very accessible and very
stable. - GWE

I just set the shop radio up on top of one of the VFDs that are mounted high
up on the wall. That keeps it pretty far away from the chips and dust.

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the
radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them
through a little Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered
speakers. Works great, but I need a better stand for the player. Anyone
designed one? Should protect it from chips and dust, but be very
accessible and very stable. - GWE

Play Wagner for metal pounding and Swanny River for filing ? :-)

I do that - and play DVD's and VCR tapes. So many of the movies are just
background and I monitor in the back of my mind when to stop and enjoy a scene...

Listen to books and such. Often the second or third time provides me with
a section I never heard before - can blank out outside data when busy.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Grant Erwin wrote:
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the
radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play
them through a little Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered
speakers. Works great, but I need a better stand for the player. Anyone
designed one? Should protect it from chips and dust, but be very
accessible and very stable. - GWE

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I am one of those "Classically trained musicians" and I have found many of
us can't listen to anything and work. We have no "background music" switch
and drop everything else to concentrate on the music. Needless to say my
shop has no music.
LLB
(brass instrument repair)


"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
...
Play Wagner for metal pounding and Swanny River for filing ? :-)

I do that - and play DVD's and VCR tapes. So many of the movies are just
background and I monitor in the back of my mind when to stop and enjoy a
scene...

Listen to books and such. Often the second or third time provides me with
a section I never heard before - can blank out outside data when busy.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Grant Erwin wrote:
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the
radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play
them through a little Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered
speakers. Works great, but I need a better stand for the player. Anyone
designed one? Should protect it from chips and dust, but be very
accessible and very stable. - GWE

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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:48:15 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Grant Erwin quickly quoth:

I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this coming up.
I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the radio, so I make
MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them through a little
Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered speakers. Works great, but I
need a better stand for the player. Anyone designed one? Should protect it from
chips and dust, but be very accessible and very stable. - GWE

I have DISH network's Sirius music stations piped into the shop
through the living room wall. (2-car shop with attached home.)
Some old Sony speakers and a pair of toggle switches next to
the phone get me through.

My Bose 501s sit in the living room with an old HPM40 center speaker
and a pair of Heil ESS speakers round out the rears.


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I am from the old school where the shop was for work that required
concentration on the job at hand, still find music/radio distracting while
in the shop (now retired so nobody argues!). If I want music, the machines
are OFF and the bagpipes are up on my air - again nobody argues.
But out of interest, what has been the effect of music and radios in the
workplace? Any measurements, or is all the evidence anecdotal?
Ray
"brassbend" wrote in message
...
I am one of those "Classically trained musicians" and I have found many of
us can't listen to anything and work. We have no "background music"
switch
and drop everything else to concentrate on the music. Needless to say my
shop has no music.
LLB
(brass instrument repair)


"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
...
Play Wagner for metal pounding and Swanny River for filing ? :-)

I do that - and play DVD's and VCR tapes. So many of the movies are just
background and I monitor in the back of my mind when to stop and enjoy a
scene...

Listen to books and such. Often the second or third time provides me
with
a section I never heard before - can blank out outside data when busy.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Grant Erwin wrote:
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand
the
radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play
them through a little Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered
speakers. Works great, but I need a better stand for the player. Anyone
designed one? Should protect it from chips and dust, but be very
accessible and very stable. - GWE

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Grant Erwin wrote in
:

I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand
the radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and
play them through a little Walkman-type player, into some Bose
self-powered speakers. Works great, but I need a better stand for the
player. Anyone designed one? Should protect it from chips and dust,
but be very accessible and very stable. - GWE

In the garage/shop/hideout, we have an old cd equipped stereo system in
an old kitchen wall cabinet. Set of cheap, but decent speakers. Volume is
never up very much, just background music mostly. Helps me relieve
stress.

--
Anthony

You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make
better idiots.

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"Ray Field" wrote in message
news:C_Z7f.56843$S4.16645@edtnps84...
I am from the old school where the shop was for work that required
concentration on the job at hand, still find music/radio distracting while
in the shop (now retired so nobody argues!). If I want music, the machines
are OFF and the bagpipes are up on my air - again nobody argues.
But out of interest, what has been the effect of music and radios in the
workplace? Any measurements, or is all the evidence anecdotal?
Ray


In the late 80's there was at least one study that suggested music made
people more productive, but I couldn't convince my boss of that.


Now, I listen to music at work from my computer. We have multiple computers
spread around the shop for programming, designing, and communication with
the machines. Whichever one is closest to me I tune into an internet
station. If work gets demanding, or frustrating, the music goes off.

Grant Erwin wrote in article
...
I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up.
I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the radio, so I
make
MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them through a
little
Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered speakers.



Being the frugal sort, I have purchased old, obsolete-but-complete stereo
systems for my shop at lawn sales for $10 or so.

I can listen to my local Public Broadcasting of classical network through
the FM receiver, but here's the best part.....

.....most of these old lawn sale finds have eight-track players in
them.....Yes! I said EIGHT-TRACK.

Not only can I play the music of my youth, I can usually find paper boxes
and carrying cases full of eight-track tapes at lawn sales and flea markets
for $5/box. I currently have several hundred tapes with an investment of
less than $50, and friend of mine - with the same setup in his shop -
trades his Big Band and Classical finds for my C&W duplicates and castoffs.

I sometimes need to throw 25-50 percent away due to broken tapes or
deteriorated drive wheels - they turn to a soft, sticky, gelatenous mass
that really gums up the drive mechanisms, so I check ALL my eight-tracks
before putting them into my music rotation - but I still have a wide
assortment of music available whenever the mood strikes....Classical, Big
Band, Pop, Rock, Country, etc.

With the "talking machine" currently serving the shop, I could probably
also dive into my vinyl collection and bring some old albums into the shop
too!

Oh, the other neat thing is that these "systems" are usually so cheap at
lawn sales, etc., that I can afford to keep an extra one or two "on hand"
for a quick changeover should the one currently in use decide to head
South........

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:01:25 GMT, "Dave Lyon"
wrote:


"Ray Field" wrote in message
news:C_Z7f.56843$S4.16645@edtnps84...
I am from the old school where the shop was for work that required
concentration on the job at hand, still find music/radio distracting while
in the shop (now retired so nobody argues!). If I want music, the machines
are OFF and the bagpipes are up on my air - again nobody argues.
But out of interest, what has been the effect of music and radios in the
workplace? Any measurements, or is all the evidence anecdotal?
Ray


In the late 80's there was at least one study that suggested music made
people more productive, but I couldn't convince my boss of that.


Now, I listen to music at work from my computer. We have multiple computers
spread around the shop for programming, designing, and communication with
the machines. Whichever one is closest to me I tune into an internet
station. If work gets demanding, or frustrating, the music goes off.


My wife will study/work with background music but nothing with
"words". *That* is distracting. I prefer instrumental music anyway.
Randy

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:51:19 -0500, the renowned Randy Replogle
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:01:25 GMT, "Dave Lyon"
wrote:


"Ray Field" wrote in message
news:C_Z7f.56843$S4.16645@edtnps84...
I am from the old school where the shop was for work that required
concentration on the job at hand, still find music/radio distracting while
in the shop (now retired so nobody argues!). If I want music, the machines
are OFF and the bagpipes are up on my air - again nobody argues.
But out of interest, what has been the effect of music and radios in the
workplace? Any measurements, or is all the evidence anecdotal?
Ray


In the late 80's there was at least one study that suggested music made
people more productive, but I couldn't convince my boss of that.


Now, I listen to music at work from my computer. We have multiple computers
spread around the shop for programming, designing, and communication with
the machines. Whichever one is closest to me I tune into an internet
station. If work gets demanding, or frustrating, the music goes off.


My wife will study/work with background music but nothing with
"words". *That* is distracting. I prefer instrumental music anyway.
Randy

I vaguely recall some claims, supposedly orginating in research done
in the Soviet Union, that *learning* (eg. language learning) was
enhanced greatly by the presence of certain kinds of classical music
in the background. Don't know what playing Eminem or Green Day in the
background would accomplish. Obviously, playing certain kinds of music
enhances money spending activities or malls wouldn't do it.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

I listen to music in my shop. It isn't very distracting for me. I've done it
forever, no reason to change now. If I'm doing shop math or something I *really*
need to think about, I might work in a quiet place, but I don't think that hard
most of the time I'm in my shop. I'm almost always alone in my shop, so maybe
some of the issues other people have mentioned don't come up for me.

GWE

Maybe just me, but background "noise" makes it easier to tune things
out. If it is too quiet, then every little noise is a distraction, but
if there is an ambient noise level it will hide things.

At work when I am trying to get "into the zone" I will pop in the
headphones to help tune out background conversations and stuff.

Just my thoughts on it.

Grant Erwin wrote:

I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this coming up.
I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand the radio, so I make
MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and play them through a little
Walkman-type player, into some Bose self-powered speakers. Works great, but I
need a better stand for the player. Anyone designed one? Should protect it from
chips and dust, but be very accessible and very stable. - GWE

My cable TV / Cable modem package includes a bunch of "Music Choice" (or
whatever it is now, they just changed services) channels, so I generally
leave the smooth jazz channel playing in the background.

Pete C.

I buy old boomboxes at yard sales, my limit is $10, and sprinkle them all
around my garage shop, my pool, and most of the rooms of my house. I listen
to KGSR, which according to Rolling Stone is "the number one radio station
that doesn't suck in the country"...

I leave the one in the garage on all the time, hoping that it keeps the
stray cats, barn swallows, and possums out...

Emmo wrote:

I buy old boomboxes at yard sales, my limit is $10, and sprinkle them all
around my garage shop, my pool, and most of the rooms of my house. I listen
to KGSR, which according to Rolling Stone is "the number one radio station
that doesn't suck in the country"...

Which of the six radio stations left in the country is that one? :-(

I have six compilation CDs, each with at least 150 songs in MP3 format on them.
I listen according to my mood. They are rock/pop, heavy rock, blues, surf,
reggae, and soul/R&B. I also have jazz and world compilations, but not big
enough for one of my main six CDs. It takes an incredible amount of time to find
150 songs in a genre that you can listen to over and over again, they have to be
really great tunes.

I have a six CD/MP3 changer in my motorcycle, that's why I limit it to six.

GWE

I have over 400 Grateful Dead concerts on cds - each one different and
special.

I have no problem finding something I want to listen to when I am bored with
the radio...

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...
Emmo wrote:

I buy old boomboxes at yard sales, my limit is $10, and sprinkle them all
around my garage shop, my pool, and most of the rooms of my house. I
listen to KGSR, which according to Rolling Stone is "the number one radio
station that doesn't suck in the country"...

Which of the six radio stations left in the country is that one? :-(

I have six compilation CDs, each with at least 150 songs in MP3 format on
them. I listen according to my mood. They are rock/pop, heavy rock, blues,
surf, reggae, and soul/R&B. I also have jazz and world compilations, but
not big enough for one of my main six CDs. It takes an incredible amount
of time to find 150 songs in a genre that you can listen to over and over
again, they have to be really great tunes.

I have a six CD/MP3 changer in my motorcycle, that's why I limit it to
six.

GWE

Emmo wrote:

I have over 400 Grateful Dead concerts on cds - each one different and
special.


Wait...if you're truly a dead head, your eyes and brain should be so
fuzzy that you need only one song..over and over cuz you can't tell the
difference anyway

koz


I have no problem finding something I want to listen to when I am bored with
the radio...

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
...


Emmo wrote:



I buy old boomboxes at yard sales, my limit is $10, and sprinkle them all
around my garage shop, my pool, and most of the rooms of my house. I
listen to KGSR, which according to Rolling Stone is "the number one radio
station that doesn't suck in the country"...


Which of the six radio stations left in the country is that one? :-(

I have six compilation CDs, each with at least 150 songs in MP3 format on
them. I listen according to my mood. They are rock/pop, heavy rock, blues,
surf, reggae, and soul/R&B. I also have jazz and world compilations, but
not big enough for one of my main six CDs. It takes an incredible amount
of time to find 150 songs in a genre that you can listen to over and over
again, they have to be really great tunes.

I have a six CD/MP3 changer in my motorcycle, that's why I limit it to
six.

GWE

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:01:25 GMT, "Dave Lyon"
wrote:


"Ray Field" wrote in message
news:C_Z7f.56843$S4.16645@edtnps84...
I am from the old school where the shop was for work that required
concentration on the job at hand, still find music/radio distracting while
in the shop (now retired so nobody argues!). If I want music, the machines
are OFF and the bagpipes are up on my air - again nobody argues.
But out of interest, what has been the effect of music and radios in the
workplace? Any measurements, or is all the evidence anecdotal?
Ray


In the late 80's there was at least one study that suggested music made
people more productive, but I couldn't convince my boss of that.


Now, I listen to music at work from my computer. We have multiple computers
spread around the shop for programming, designing, and communication with
the machines. Whichever one is closest to me I tune into an internet
station. If work gets demanding, or frustrating, the music goes off.

Before I retired, I had the only stereo equipped desk in the office.
When I was forced to use my cubicle (I was a field type) my "Walkman"
went in the drawer, plugged into a power source and a speaker system
under the desk front shelf.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:18:43 -0700, Koz
wrote:



Emmo wrote:

I have over 400 Grateful Dead concerts on cds - each one different and
special.


Wait...if you're truly a dead head, your eyes and brain should be so
fuzzy that you need only one song..over and over cuz you can't tell the
difference anyway

koz

The radio in the machine shop has country western on it 24/7, the
radio out in the welding shed has classical on it, and the radio in
the computer room has a mixture of 60s hard rock, celtic and country
western ballads, when Right wing talk radio is not on the air G

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

In article , Gunner says...

The radio in the machine shop has country western on it 24/7,

Things haven't been the same around here since WHN went off the air,
they tried to do an FM format C&W station but it went kaput after about
two years.

Any country western music one wants has to be played on the CD
player.

I've become rather partial to alan jackson when doing precision
assembly work.

Jim


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Just got back from the dentist. Background music everywhere. Those guys do
precision work and they have to concentrate. Just another data point.

Gunner, how do you stand all the radio advertising? Yuck. Those guys want me to
listen to their stuff, they would have to PAY ME.

GWE

In article , Grant Erwin says...

Just got back from the dentist. Background music everywhere. Those guys do
precision work and they have to concentrate. Just another data point.

I do ultrasonic wire bonding under a microscope, with 0.001 inch diameter
wire, onto pads that are maybe 100 microns square. I *always* have
music playing when I'm doing this.

I think it's a right brain/left brain thing. You need to occupy the
part of the brain you're not using when the other side is busy.
Music does that IMO.

Jim


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"jim rozen" wrote in message
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| In article , Grant Erwin says...
|
| Just got back from the dentist. Background music everywhere. Those guys
do
| precision work and they have to concentrate. Just another data point.
|
| I do ultrasonic wire bonding under a microscope, with 0.001 inch diameter
| wire, onto pads that are maybe 100 microns square. I *always* have
| music playing when I'm doing this.
|
| I think it's a right brain/left brain thing. You need to occupy the
| part of the brain you're not using when the other side is busy.
| Music does that IMO.
|
| Jim
|

I prefer music that I don't mind missing if I get so focused on my work
I miss a good song. A number of times all I'd remember was my walkman
flipping over, so I switched over to something else mellow, like Enya or
something. I'm no New Age Music dweeb, but there's a time for everything at
one time or another, and that's usually when Metallica won't do for me like
the high concentration tasks.

When doing tasks that don't require a lot of concentration, whatever I
like best is great.

Let the record show that "brassbend" wrote back on
Thu, 27 Oct 2005 03:16:14 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
I am one of those "Classically trained musicians" and I have found many of
us can't listen to anything and work. We have no "background music" switch
and drop everything else to concentrate on the music. Needless to say my
shop has no music.

I heard an interview that singer of love songs Barry White couldn't
have the radio on when he was making love. He'd get up and start listening
to the music. "Whoops".

LLB
(brass instrument repair)
--
pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

Let the record show that "Dave Lyon" wrote back on
Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:01:25 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :

"Ray Field" wrote in message
news:C_Z7f.56843$S4.16645@edtnps84...
I am from the old school where the shop was for work that required
concentration on the job at hand, still find music/radio distracting while
in the shop (now retired so nobody argues!). If I want music, the machines
are OFF and the bagpipes are up on my air - again nobody argues.
But out of interest, what has been the effect of music and radios in the
workplace? Any measurements, or is all the evidence anecdotal?
Ray


In the late 80's there was at least one study that suggested music made
people more productive, but I couldn't convince my boss of that.


Now, I listen to music at work from my computer. We have multiple computers
spread around the shop for programming, designing, and communication with
the machines. Whichever one is closest to me I tune into an internet
station. If work gets demanding, or frustrating, the music goes off.

I learned in college that when typing up papers I couldn't listen to
music with lyrics; words from the lyric would show up in paper. Not
words/phrases, just random world.

tschus
pyotr

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pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

Let the record show that "jw" wrote back on 27 Oct
2005 09:49:44 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
Maybe just me, but background "noise" makes it easier to tune things
out. If it is too quiet, then every little noise is a distraction, but
if there is an ambient noise level it will hide things.

At work when I am trying to get "into the zone" I will pop in the
headphones to help tune out background conversations and stuff.

Funny, but I've discovered that putting on the earmuffs will help me
'hear' the radio.

I'm with the guy who loads MP3s on a CD. I can get upwards of 9 hours
of material on a CD. And then I don't have to change the CDs.


tschus
pyotr

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pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

Let the record show that Anthony wrote back on
Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:17:48 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
Grant Erwin wrote in
:

I've been following this NG since about 1994 and haven't noticed this
coming up. I listen to music in my shop, like many guys. Can't stand
the radio, so I make MP3 CDs with about 150 songs on each of 'em and
play them through a little Walkman-type player, into some Bose
self-powered speakers. Works great, but I need a better stand for the
player. Anyone designed one? Should protect it from chips and dust,
but be very accessible and very stable. - GWE

In the garage/shop/hideout, we have an old cd equipped stereo system in
an old kitchen wall cabinet. Set of cheap, but decent speakers. Volume is
never up very much, just background music mostly. Helps me relieve
stress.

I've seen better systems mounted in guys tool carts than I have at
home. I can hear (at least the base line) over his machine, the machine
between us, and my machine. :-)

tschus
pyotr

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pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

In article , Grant Erwin says...

Just got back from the dentist. Background music everywhere. Those guys do
precision work and they have to concentrate. Just another data point.

I do ultrasonic wire bonding under a microscope, with 0.001 inch diameter
wire, onto pads that are maybe 100 microns square. I *always* have
music playing when I'm doing this.

I think it's a right brain/left brain thing. You need to occupy the
part of the brain you're not using when the other side is busy.
Music does that IMO.

Jim


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I listen to CW in the shop, not too loud, but don't "hear" much of
it as I kinda tune it out when I'm working on something. But, a
few years back, when my youngest (at the time, he was about
18 years old, or so) would be out in the shop working on his
truck, he would change the radio station to "his" kind of music (ya
know, the rock crap) and do it without telling me. I'd be working on
something, and soon would realize that I was actually clenching
my jaws and things would start "not going right"..... *finally* I
would realize it was the damn music that was being played - although
I wasn't actually *listening* to it - my head was picking it up. When
I changed the station back to where it belonged (and claimed
hands-off), I would start to settle down again. Strange, but true.
Ken.

On 28 Oct 2005 09:10:06 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner says...

The radio in the machine shop has country western on it 24/7,

Things haven't been the same around here since WHN went off the air,
they tried to do an FM format C&W station but it went kaput after about
two years.

Any country western music one wants has to be played on the CD
player.

I've become rather partial to alan jackson when doing precision
assembly work.

Jim

Im within 35 miles of Bakersfield, also known as Nashville West. We
have at least 3 C&W stations on FM, and a number on AM. Very active,
well known, wins awards everyyear.

KUZZ also gives away free tickets by the handful to listeners, for
concerts at the Crystal Palace, and other local hotspots of C&W.

I figured out the value of concert tickets that the wife has won in
the last year alone..and its wll over $10,000

In this area..Id have to say that most office and residential phones
have KUZZ on their speed dials.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:29:58 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Let the record show that "brassbend" wrote back on
Thu, 27 Oct 2005 03:16:14 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
I am one of those "Classically trained musicians" and I have found many of
us can't listen to anything and work. We have no "background music" switch
and drop everything else to concentrate on the music. Needless to say my
shop has no music.

I heard an interview that singer of love songs Barry White couldn't
have the radio on when he was making love. He'd get up and start listening
to the music. "Whoops".

LLB
(brass instrument repair)

I have the same problem with having a TV on in the background.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:35:42 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:


I vaguely recall some claims, supposedly orginating in research done
in the Soviet Union, that *learning* (eg. language learning) was
enhanced greatly by the presence of certain kinds of classical music
in the background. Don't know what playing Eminem or Green Day in the
background would accomplish. Obviously, playing certain kinds of music
enhances money spending activities or malls wouldn't do it.



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

And I heard cows give more milk, too.
Randy

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:51:34 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

I listen to CW in the shop, not too loud, but don't "hear" much of
it as I kinda tune it out when I'm working on something. ........
Ken.

CW would be easy to ignore.
Randy